Feels like Pick 9 is no-mans land

[foreboding]

Unless a blue-chip falls, the Bills are likely to have a pool of players who could just as easily be there at a later pick, 12 or 14. Without some luck (QB who might stir a trade or another Blue chip falls) I do not love our position. 

 

Personally I really hope Beane either goes for a blue-chip by expending some of this years draft capital or trades down.

 

I know we have been discussing this in various threads, but what are your thoughts?

[GunnerBill]

If only one QB goes above them I think it does leave them a bit in no mans land. If two go I think they have a chance to get a really good player at their spot.

[ColoradoBills]

I think too many people are way overthinking the draft.

DL has not been addressed in FA (yet).

Beane knows the draft has a lot of DLs early.  He has an early pick.

Odds are he picks a DL at #9.

[JoshAllenHasBigHands]

4 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

I think too many people are way overthinking the draft.

DL has not been addressed in FA (yet).

Beane knows the draft has a lot of DLs early.  He has an early pick.

Odds are he picks a DL at #9.

 

This.  And after the draft we are going to look back and say, "it was so obvious."  

[oldmanfan]

9 minutes ago, foreboding said:

Unless a blue-chip falls, the Bills are likely to have a pool of players who could just as easily be there at a later pick, 12 or 14. Without some luck (QB who might stir a trade or another Blue chip falls) I do not love our position. 

 

Personally I really hope Beane either goes for a blue-chip by expending some of this years draft capital or trades down.

 

I know we have been discussing this in various threads, but what are your thoughts?

I guess it depends on your definition of blue chip.  I think this draft is deep in DL talent and we will get a really good addition to the D line at 9.

[Thurman#1]

23 minutes ago, foreboding said:

Unless a blue-chip falls, the Bills are likely to have a pool of players who could just as easily be there at a later pick, 12 or 14. Without some luck (QB who might stir a trade or another Blue chip falls) I do not love our position. 

 

Personally I really hope Beane either goes for a blue-chip by expending some of this years draft capital or trades down.

 

I know we have been discussing this in various threads, but what are your thoughts?

 

 

Not really buying that this is no-man's land.

 

It always feels that way because you're always pining for guys who will probably not be available to you and scorning the guys who'll likely be there a few picks later. Fans of most teams feel that way most years. I felt that way the year we got Dareus because I wanted Von Miller or a QB even though I didn't love Newton.

 

And I think that Oliver, Jawaan Taylor and Sweat are all blue-chippers and we'll likely get a shot at one of them. And I see another couple of guys on the bubble. I'm guessing you want somebody else?

 

 

Edited April 10, 2019 by Thurman#1

[Boca BIlls]

Wrong

[WhoTom]

19 minutes ago, foreboding said:

Unless a blue-chip falls, the Bills are likely to have a pool of players who could just as easily be there at a later pick, 12 or 14.

 

So if Clay makes the catch in the Miami game, we'd have a better draft position?

 

 

[BillsFan1988]

Pk #9 can actually be the best pk of the entire draft or pk #99 or #199 when it's all said and done . Don't overthink it. 

[GunnerBill]

7 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

And I think that Oliver, Jawaan Taylor and Sweat are all blue-chippers and we'll likely get a shot at one of them. I'm guessing you want somebody else?

 

 

What if only one Quarterback goes? Still think we are definitely getting a shot at one of those three (not that I'd love the Taylor pick personally).

 

I see the first 8 position players off the board as: Bosa, Oliver, Q. Williams, Allen, White, Gary, Sweat and Taylor. To get one of those to drop we need Haskins (or Lock but that is unlikely in my mind) to go before our pick.

[foreboding]

1 minute ago, WhoTom said:

 

So if Clay makes the catch in the Miami game, we'd have a better draft position?

 

 

No, of course not. I think a trade back might net us some of the same players though, or a trade up would get us a more surefire, difference maker.

[BuffaloRebound]

How would you like be in the Giants position?  They clearly need a QB and passed on a bunch last year, and the BPA at 6 will probably be a DL or LB.  

[MrEpsYtown]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

What if only one Quarterback goes? Still think we are definitely getting a shot at one of those three (not that I'd love the Taylor pick personally).

 

I see the first 8 position players off the board as: Bosa, Oliver, Q. Williams, Allen, White, Gary, Sweat and Taylor. To get one of those to drop we need Haskins (or Lock but that is unlikely in my mind) to go before our pick.

 

Gunner do you think an offensive player like Metcalf or Hockenson creeps up there before 9? 

[GunnerBill]

Just now, MrEpsYtown said:

 

Gunner do you think an offensive player like Metcalf or Hockenson creeps up there before 9? 

 

No. I think Hock might be in play for Detroit at 8.... I just think there will be better players there at more critical positions. Hock could then go at #9 or #10 or pretty much any point after that.

 

Metcalf I don't see a top 10 fit for.

[Kirby Jackson]

23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

If only one QB goes above them I think it does leave them a bit in no mans land. If two go I think they have a chance to get a really good player at their spot.

I think that this is right. There ‘s a chance that Devin White is the last real elite player at 9. It will be a test of BPA. 

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

I think that this is right. There ‘s a chance that Devin White is the last real elite player at 9. It will be a test of BPA. 

 

I don't think White makes it past the Buccs myself. Either #4 to the Raiders or #5 to the Buccs.

[Thurman#1]

8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

What if only one Quarterback goes? Still think we are definitely getting a shot at one of those three (not that I'd love the Taylor pick personally).

 

I see the first 8 position players off the board as: Bosa, Oliver, Q. Williams, Allen, White, Gary, Sweat and Taylor. To get one of those to drop we need Haskins (or Lock but that is unlikely in my mind) to go before our pick.

 

 

I don't think it's as cut-and-dried as all that, Bill. You could be right. That's a thoughtful list. But a team or two could easily disagree or find bad fits, and it's certainly reasonably likely that two QBs go that early as well. Maybe even three, though maybe not. QB fever is as bad as gold fever.

 

To answer your exact question, in that case I'd probably go Williams. Maybe Dillard.I'd guess Hockenson might be available with a smallish trade-down myself, though I'm far from sure. I wouldn't feel those two were a reach.

 

Not that I'm against trading down. It's often a smart move.

Edited April 10, 2019 by Thurman#1

[BubbaT]

Regardless of whether Bosa, Allen, Q Williams and Oliver are gone by pick 9, there are still Gary, Wilkins, Tillery, Ferrell, Sweat and Burns as likely very good D line/edge candidates available. I don't think the Bills will be desperate or want to offer up prime picks in rounds 2-3 for any one of them. I still see a move down and acquistion of another premium pick to be the way to go when there are so many good players available throughout at least the mid to end of round 1 available.

Edited April 10, 2019 by BubbaT

[GunnerBill]

6 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

I don't think it's as cut-and-dried as all that, Bill. You could be right. That's a thoughtful list. But a team or two could easily disagree or find bad fits, and it's certainly reasonably likely that two QBs go that early as well. Maybe even three, though maybe not. QB fever is as bad as gold fever.

 

To answer your exact question, in that case I'd probably go Williams. Maybe Dillard. I wouldn't feel those two were a reach.

 

Not that I'm against trading down. It's often a smart move.

 

I wouldn't hate Williams but it isn't my ideal outcome. Dillard to me is a reach and a poor fit for this offense. I have a second round grade on him but he will likely go in the first - I just think he is a very specific scheme fit for a team that plays a quick strike, rhythm passing offense where the ball is out quick. He is a below average run blocker and I also question how he would hold up trying to block for those longer developing down field pass plays. Good technician, very good feet, lacks strength and power.

 

EDIT: If we are in the position where the 8 I listed have gone and there is no reasonable tradeback offer then I'd take either Clelin Ferrell or Brian Burns.

Edited April 10, 2019 by GunnerBill

[Steve O]

10 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

How would you like be in the Giants position?  They clearly need a QB and passed on a bunch last year, and the BPA at 6 will probably be a DL or LB.  

Which is why I can see us trading up to 6 if the guy that McBeane covets is still there. Giants should still be able to get their QB at 9.