maryland-bills-fan Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Based upon last year I think that the Bills will do the following.: .................. The thinking is that we want to get to the superbowl or at least far into the playoffs. ,,,,,,, Unless you are just real real lucky, the way you do that is to have a number of absolute studs on the team who can dominate the opponent and make everyone else play better,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Sometimes you can get these guys in the 3rd and 4th round. Sometimes you win the top prize in PowerBall. (not a good plan). You might get these guys in a trade or FA, but you are paying thu the nose for them and should only do that if your are missing just one or two pieces (That is expensive and a crapshoot) ............. The way to get these few (3-7?) studs is to draft them in the first round or two of the draft. ................You can fill in the rest of the roster with "buy low-sell high" veteran FA's who are low risk to do an adequate or good job as well as crap shoots for high-ceiling but high risk guys in the later rounds of the draft........ SOOOOO,,,,, the Bills will look to get two guys in the first (or first and high second) rounds who are very high ceiling guys. They will be willing to add in some lower draft picks to move up to get these guys. After that, it is best player available highest ceiling player available for the rest of the draft. Holes in the roster are better filled by young veterans, who have shown they can do a workman-like job and are not going to be a rookie flame-out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 My brain hurts now.... 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said: My brain hurts now.... Sorry.....................First two picks, go for pro bowl guys............. After that highest ceiling player available............. Fill "positions of need" with cheap young veterans and even hope that some turn out to be real good. ....................................They went for broke at QB and MLB last year. Edited April 2, 2019 by maryland-bills-fan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) I think I got a computer virus in my body just by reading that. Edited April 2, 2019 by Coach Tuesday 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 It sounds like you're stating the obvious: Draft bpa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 So you’re saying our draft strategy should be to draft players that have the potential of being really good? You thought this was thread worthy? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 TLDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said: Sorry.....................First two picks, go for pro bowl guys............. After that highest ceiling player available............. Fill "positions of need" with cheap young veterans and even hope that some turn out to be real good. ....................................They went for broke at QB and MLB last year. Pro Bowl guys like Tyrod Taylor? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: It sounds like you're stating the obvious: Draft bpa. Not exactly. Highest ceiling player available. .......... Consider the choice between a player who has a 97% chance of being a "100" at his position AND a guy who has an 80% chance of being a "130" at his position. (let's say that there are only 2-4 "130's at that position in the entire league).......... I think they are willing to go the second way and use okay lower draft picks to move up into the first round. Also, if "those guys" (the freak guys) are not there, then they go BPA . (few teams are drafting for need these days) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 OP, they're going to pick you apart for this thread. ↑ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Highest ceiling player = BPA No need to relabel it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Gugny said: Pro Bowl guys like Tyrod Taylor? nope. guys like Edmunds. Edmunds is young , has a lot of tools, no head problem and might develop into a HOF guy. We could have drafted a guy who would be better in his first couple of years. 1 minute ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: OP, they're going to pick you apart for this thread. ↑ that's okay. ideas are not something to be afraid of. At the end of a day, trolls are still trolls. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Just now, maryland-bills-fan said: nope. guys like Edmunds. Edmunds is young , has a lot of tools, no head problem and might develop into a HOF guy. We could have drafted a guy who would be better in his first couple of years. So they should draft potential Hall of Famers with their first two picks. I like it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: Highest ceiling player = BPA No need to relabel it.... What is "BPA"? The guy who will be a plug and play starter but never get above 20th at his position? Or a guy who will be a marginal starter for the first year or two, but then be a top 5 player in the league at that position? ..... A college guy who developed slowly in college, or who played in an inferior league, or who didn't play a pro-type scheme might not be the "BPA" with the first definition. 8 minutes ago, Gugny said: Pro Bowl guys like Tyrod Taylor? Do you think that Taylor would able to be a Jim Kelly type player or just an adequate stop-gap who might win some games for you but never could dominate good teams in the post-season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said: Not exactly. Highest ceiling player available. .......... Consider the choice between a player who has a 97% chance of being a "100" at his position AND a guy who has an 80% chance of being a "130" at his position. (let's say that there are only 2-4 "130's at that position in the entire league).......... I think they are willing to go the second way and use okay lower draft picks to move up into the first round. Also, if "those guys" (the freak guys) are not there, then they go BPA . (few teams are drafting for need these days) So, that 2nd player has 100% chance of being 100... That's why it sounds like you're still saying BPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said: Do you think that Taylor would able to be a Jim Kelly type player or just an adequate stop-gap who might win some games for you but never could dominate good teams in the post-season? I don't think Tyrod Taylor could properly wash Jim Kelly's cup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: So, that 2nd player has 100% chance of being 100... That's why it sounds like you're still saying BPA. The difference is that the second guy might have a 20% chance of being a "60" and 80% chance of being a "130" after a couple of years. The first guy is a pretty centain ok to good starter, but never will be a very superior player...... Most of the time, I think that coaches play it safe and go for the more sure thing. ..... I like the idea of taking a risk to try to get real difference makers. For Example, would you rather have Josh Rosen or Josh Allen right now? A guy who played at UCLA or Wyomimg? Edited April 2, 2019 by maryland-bills-fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Essentially it sounds as if the OP is saying you might have a choice between a player who had a real productive college career and a player that for some reason didn't seem to be as productive as one would like, but has elite athleticism and looks as if he might be a generational type player, you role the dice on the potential generational player in the first or second round. An example might be Rashan Gary, who at 6'4" and 277 lbs ran a ridiculous 4.58 40. He's strong and has long arms. He is just an incredible athlete. However, he was not super productive in college. Some have speculated that his underperformance might have something to do with the way he was used. On the flip side Christian Wilkins is considered a pretty safe pick. He's an excellent athlete. He's technically sound and he's had a long productive college career. The OP is saying, you gamble on Gary's upside rather than taking the safer pick. After the first couple rounds, maybe then college production begins to be more of a factor. At least that's how I take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 42 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Highest ceiling player = BPA No need to relabel it.... That's just completely incorrect. "Best" is some combination of high ceiling and high floor - set to whatever mix a team is comfortable with. Many of the highest ceiling guys are available where they are, precisely because they are low-floor. Typical case is the supreme athlete who for whatever reason didn't produce in college. Our QB was that guy last year - remember? Rashan Gary is clearly that kind of guy. Incredible athlete even in a class of great athletes - but you have to decide why he didn't produce in college, and if that's something that can change. If you're wrong it's a terrible pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 53 minutes ago, Bangarang said: So you’re saying our draft strategy should be to draft players that have the potential of being really good? When you put it like that it's pure genius ? 1 hour ago, maryland-bills-fan said: Based upon last year I think that the Bills will do the following.: .................. The thinking is that we want to get to the superbowl or at least far into the playoffs. ,,,,,,, Unless you are just real real lucky, the way you do that is to have a number of absolute studs on the team who can dominate the opponent and make everyone else play better,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Sometimes you can get these guys in the 3rd and 4th round. Sometimes you win the top prize in PowerBall. (not a good plan). You might get these guys in a trade or FA, but you are paying thu the nose for them and should only do that if your are missing just one or two pieces (That is expensive and a crapshoot) ............. The way to get these few (3-7?) studs is to draft them in the first round or two of the draft. ................You can fill in the rest of the roster with "buy low-sell high" veteran FA's who are low risk to do an adequate or good job as well as crap shoots for high-ceiling but high risk guys in the later rounds of the draft........ SOOOOO,,,,, the Bills will look to get two guys in the first (or first and high second) rounds who are very high ceiling guys. They will be willing to add in some lower draft picks to move up to get these guys. After that, it is best player available highest ceiling player available for the rest of the draft. Holes in the roster are better filled by young veterans, who have shown they can do a workman-like job and are not going to be a rookie flame-out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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