Augie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: A good reason all by itself but I would bet there is a powerful backer in this as well. Like.....God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just now, Augie said: Like.....God? God to bring it to its knees but some kind of major financier that put that operation together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just now, RochesterRob said: God to bring it to its knees but some kind of major financier that put that operation together. It’s law enforcement. Human trafficking is an enormous issue. What could be worse? The one they shut down in Orlando was in the hood, not full of billionaires. I don’t think there is a billionaire benefactor who is behind these stings. It’s the police doing their jobs. We pay taxes to make this happen, and I’d pay more if we could eradicate such horror. (And I’m kinda cheap!) It’s like drug stings where they take down 20-30 people at once. It’s a scourge and needs to be dealt with. You build the case, then you lower the hammer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Augie said: It’s law enforcement. Human trafficking is an enormous issue. What could be worse? The one they shut down in Orlando was in the hood, not full of billionaires. I don’t think there is a billionaire benefactor who is behind these stings. It’s the police doing their jobs. We pay taxes to make this happen, and I’d pay more if we could eradicate such horror. (And I’m kinda cheap!) I think he's supposing that a billionaire might be behind the establishment that got busted, hence the prevalence of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just now, whatdrought said: I think he's supposing that a billionaire might be behind the establishment that got busted, hence the prevalence of it. I don’t know, it wasn’t clear to me but I read it the other way. I don’t think any billionaires deal with anything quite this dirty. This makes the drug cartels like like Girl Scouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Augie said: It’s law enforcement. Human trafficking is an enormous issue. What could be worse? The one they shut down in Orlando was in the hood, not full of billionaires. I don’t think there is a billionaire benefactor who is behind these stings. It’s the police doing their jobs. We pay taxes to make this happen, and I’d pay more if we could eradicate such horror. (And I’m kinda cheap!) It’s like drug stings where they take down 20-30 people at once. It’s a scourge and needs to be dealt with. You build the case, then you lower the hammer. You misunderstood what I was trying to say. I am saying that it may be a wealthy individual or individuals that put this brothel together along with others in Florida. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Augie said: I don’t know, it wasn’t clear to me but I read it the other way. I don’t think any billionaires deal with anything quite this dirty. This makes the drug cartels like like Girl Scouts. Oh, I think you could be surprised by that. Depravity doesn't measure bank accounts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 34 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Sex slaves Do you need a better reason? They ALL use forced labor - something about this particular establishment caught law enforcement’s attention, enough to do a full stakeout with pre-installed cameras etc. This cost time and money and was clearly a law enforcement priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just now, whatdrought said: Oh, I think you could be surprised by that. Depravity doesn't measure bank accounts. When you look at guys like Bill Gates you don't think about them involved in this kind of stuff but when you look at billionaires from other parts of the world you never know. The kind that think people are commodities to be traded like oil or wheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: You misunderstood what I was trying to say. I am saying that it may be a wealthy individual or individuals that put this brothel together along with others in Florida. Sorry for misunderstanding. Whatever the deal is, I hope they get to the bottom of it and everyone gets what they deserve. What could make a person think that they could do that to someone else. I don’t know how these things are structured, but I know it’s FAR too common. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 45 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: That is good info and it is wild - there are tens of thousands of rub-and-tug joints in this country and the authorities went all in on this one? Why?? It wasn't just this one in the sting, there were 10 in all, with almost 300 "clients". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: They ALL use forced labor - something about this particular establishment caught law enforcement’s attention, enough to do a full stakeout with pre-installed cameras etc. This cost time and money and was clearly a law enforcement priority. Going by what was said at the top of this page I would say clearly under age girls being forced to work there. Sick as it may be there was a ring busted in NY looking for women over age 18 that looked much younger "for modeling" several years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) Maybe we should, you know, wait for all the information to come out before coming to conclusions. Edited February 24, 2019 by BillsSB2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 50 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: That is good info and it is wild - there are tens of thousands of rub-and-tug joints in this country and the authorities went all in on this one? Why?? Odds are that is not the only area that was targeted. It's just the first to involve some big names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said: Maybe we should, you know, wait for all the information to come out before coming to conclusions. I get what you are saying but the Jupiter authorities have already stated that Kraft will be charged on Monday. Podunk law enforcement agencies don't pursue hit or miss cases involving a billionaire. The DA and probably those above the DA did their homework to levy whatever charges they have planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said: Maybe we should, you know, wait for all the information to come out before coming to conclusions. I think enough information has already come out to be appalled. I don’t know who’s guilty, and of what, be we KNOW appalling actions have taken place. I’m not condemning anyone, just saying everyone needs to be held accountable as they deserve. I try very hard not to judge, because that’s not my job. I just hope for justice, whatever that may look like. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said: Maybe we should, you know, wait for all the information to come out before coming to conclusions. That would literally be no fun at all... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, whatdrought said: That would literally be no fun at all... But, I heard this is the No Fun League, am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdFront_USAF Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 26 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: They ALL use forced labor - something about this particular establishment caught law enforcement’s attention, enough to do a full stakeout with pre-installed cameras etc. This cost time and money and was clearly a law enforcement priority. They aren't all like that. Where I live at the moment these kinds of places are pretty common. The girls are all there by choice, and some of the bigger places (soapy bath houses) are run by the Yakuza, so the girls are paid relatively well and go home at the end of the day. It's a totally different situation when people are taking advantage of legal immigrants. They take their passports/visas and essentially force them to stay there and "work". I'm guessing having what is essentially slave labor, including possible child slaves, is what causes the police to justify putting the time and money into investigating this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: No big earth shaking deal, really. I think Mr Kraft might disagree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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