YoloinOhio Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2019-nfl-mock-draft-josh-allen-goes-no-1-overall-to-cardinals-kyler-murray-to-dolphins/ Josh Allen goes #1 to Arizona Quote Ed Oliver, DT, Houston. Receiver is a bigger need. But Kyle Williams' retirement leaves a job opening for the role of penetrating defensive tackle. Oliver isn't as polished as Aaron Donald was when he entered the league out of Pittsburgh in 2014 ... but he has eerily similar athletic talent. Expand 1 1
TroutDog Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 He is a monster who has been capable of disrupting offenses, that is for certain. 1
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 1:08 PM, YoloinOhio said: Josh Allen goes #1 to Arizona Expand Did someone tell them this isn't 2018? ? 1 1
McBean Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 Trapasso had Mason Rudolph as his QB1 last year. That guy needs to sit a few plays out or better yet, find a new industry. 4 2
YoloinOhio Posted January 28, 2019 Author Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 1:36 PM, McBean said: Trapasso had Mason Rudolph as his QB1 last year. That guy needs to sit a few plays out or better yet, find a new industry. Expand This is a mock draft, not his big board On 1/28/2019 at 1:15 PM, TroutDog said: He is a monster who has been capable of disrupting offenses, that is for certain. Expand I really like Oliver. He’s compared to Aaron Donald a lot and I think that might be setting expectations a bit high, but he’s a similar player. 1
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) On 1/28/2019 at 1:08 PM, YoloinOhio said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2019-nfl-mock-draft-josh-allen-goes-no-1-overall-to-cardinals-kyler-murray-to-dolphins/ Josh Allen goes #1 to Arizona Expand For the record, I'd be happy with this. He is very talented, and at one point considered a top 3 pick before his run in with Major Applewhite. I prefer OL or WR, but if Oliver is on the board at 9, he is the BPA in my opinion. I just re-watched some of his highlights just for a refresher, and man can that guy move for a guy his size. He is fast off the ball and relentless in his pursuit. He would absolutely make this Defense better and be fun to watch at the same time. Edited January 28, 2019 by buffaloboyinATL 1
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 Ed Oliver gives us a franchise player on every level of the Defense. It's going to be hard to pass him up. Fits the city of Buffalo like a glove, 3 years of incredible productivity and fits a position of need/BPA. 1
TroutDog Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 1:39 PM, YoloinOhio said: This is a mock draft, not his big board I really like Oliver. He’s compared to Aaron Donald a lot and I think that might be setting expectations a bit high, but he’s a similar player. Expand I agree. While an edge rusher is the sexier pick, Oliver has been a force. His knee issue shouldn’t be a factor. As with all picks there there is a chance he won’t hold up to his draft status but Oliver has excelled at every level. In addition, with our D being so poor against the run at times he should be a major help in that area (so long as we can somehow learn to set the edge).
aristocrat Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 star, harrison and jordan phillips. this definitely wouldn't be a need pick. 1
GimmeSomeProcess Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 D line is the only pick other than offense I’d be happy with. Him or Sweat look to be game wreckers. 1
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 2:04 PM, aristocrat said: star, harrison and jordan phillips. this definitely wouldn't be a need pick. Expand You don't pass up on an Ed Oliver level talent for those three. 5 3
formerlyofCtown Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) On 1/28/2019 at 1:08 PM, YoloinOhio said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2019-nfl-mock-draft-josh-allen-goes-no-1-overall-to-cardinals-kyler-murray-to-dolphins/ Josh Allen goes #1 to Arizona Expand I always hate when they compare a player to a recent all-pro. Makes you worry that a team may get stuck on that and not evaluate the prospect themselves. I think Oliver is a beast though. I dont believe he will be there at 9. Edited January 28, 2019 by formerlyofCtown
Johnny Hammersticks Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 Just don’t take away his jacket!!!! 5
CommonCents Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 2:27 PM, Johnny Hammersticks said: Just don’t take away his jacket!!!! Expand Yeah, is he a firecracker or was that one foolish incident? He is the same size as Nkemdiche. Both were considered top overall picks at points in their college careers. I see the talent but this seems like a boom or bust selection. 1
Chicken Boo Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 1:39 PM, YoloinOhio said: He’s compared to Aaron Donald a lot and I think that might be setting expectations a bit high, but he’s a similar player. Expand At this pace, Aaron Donald will go down as one of, if not the greatest interior defensive lineman EVER. Yeah, I'd say the bar is a bit high.
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 2:36 PM, Chicken Boo said: At this pace, Aaron Donald will go down as one of, if not the greatest interior defensive lineman EVER. Yeah, I'd say the bar is a bit high. Expand Lots of guys have size, strength, speed, etc. What sets the Aaron Donald's apart from the rest is the intense work ethic. Guys who freak out at their coaches and sit their senior years do not have the work ethic it takes to become Aaron Donald. 3
BuffAlone Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 He's a great talent, no doubt. When he wants to be. He takes some plays off, but does seem to show up in big moments. While he is strong and has a very quick get off, he needs a lot of work when it comes to shedding blockers/hand work. If he puts that together, he's a perfect 3 tech for us( dependant upon his attitude and consistency)
Johnny Hammersticks Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 2:31 PM, CommonCents said: Yeah, is he a firecracker or was that one foolish incident? He is the same size as Nkemdiche. Both were considered top overall picks at points in their college careers. I see the talent but this seems like a boom or bust selection. Expand I don’t know if any similar transgressions, but he does have a reputation as a guy who doesn’t necessarily give his 110% on the field all the time. That is worrisome to me.
TheBeane Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 2:04 PM, aristocrat said: star, harrison and jordan phillips. this definitely wouldn't be a need pick. Expand Beane has said numerous times that we won't draft strictly for need, it will be BPA. Also with K.W. retiring, it is arguably a need.
YoloinOhio Posted January 28, 2019 Author Posted January 28, 2019 I don’t have great confidence in our DL coach. And with Kyle gone, we lose that element of mentorship too. I’m not saying that’s a reason to pass on a talent ... but I would be less worried about bringing in a vet where you already know who he is, than a raw rookie on the DL. Not every rookie is considered raw though... some are more polished and were more well coached in college than others 1
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