3rdnlng Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, bbb said: This seems like yet another new phrase to me - and it seems like reproduction is the opposite of what they are doing. Haven't you heard of addition by subtraction? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 More "newspeak" https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/04/new-york-times-fetal-heartbeat-embryonic-pulsing-abortion/ ‘Embryonic Pulsing’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 On June 5, 2019 at 5:54 PM, TakeYouToTasker said: How does someone get to the point where they can do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/5/2019 at 9:02 PM, Nanker said: That won’t make Leftists sick, but this might. Darn, I can't wait for deer season!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Lotta white men in here with a lot of strong opinions on women's rights. Opened this thread and wasn't disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Lotta white men in here with a lot of strong opinions on women's rights. Opened this thread and wasn't disappointed. I’m white? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Yes Bull, it's always best to start a thread with your bias already set in stone it allows you to skip over any reasoned article here (many written by women) to spout your prejudice and cliched thinking You will never be disappointed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Just now, B-Man said: Yes Bull, it's always best to start a thread with your bias already set in stone it allows you to skip over any reasoned article here (many written by women) to spout your prejudice and cliched thinking You will never be disappointed . When my bias is liberty, science, and reason, I'm perfectly ok with that. You can have Jesus, and we'll see how the cards play out. There really isn't anything more cliche than people on the right trying to call an egg a chicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: When my bias is liberty, science, and reason, I'm perfectly ok with that. You can have Jesus, and we'll see how the cards play out. There really isn't anything more cliche than people on the right trying to call an egg a chicken. liberty and science and reason ends up always with the guillotine or concentration camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: liberty and science and reason ends up always with the guillotine or concentration camp we could use a bit of the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: we could use a bit of the former. you'd be in the second sweep of executions by that means your trolling is almost amusing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: we could use a bit of the former. You first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 sorry, was your comment a sign of your genius levels of liberty or science or reason or a combo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: When my bias is liberty, All posting evidence to the contrary thus far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: All posting evidence to the contrary thus far. I'm not forcing you to have an abortion, but you seem pretty keen on forcing people not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Just now, BullBuchanan said: I'm not forcing you to have an abortion, but you seem pretty keen on forcing people not to. I do? Funny, I haven't posted much of anything in this thread to make my opinion known. Seems like you're making assumptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: I'm not forcing you to have an abortion, but you seem pretty keen on forcing people not to. that is quite a leap into metaphysics and your little metanarrative there that's not reason or logic or science at least 4 levels of straw man in your comment please show some sign that you have reason and science and logic in your mind at all, pretty please?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I do? Funny, I haven't posted much of anything in this thread to make my opinion known. Seems like you're making assumptions. When you need to fabricate other people's opinions just so that you can complain, you have lost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, KRC said: When you need to fabricate other people's opinions just so that you can complain, you have lost. Yup. And that's a tact that one who believes in "liberty" takes... oh, wait, no it's not. That's the path of fascists... progressive fascism is all the rage right now, especially among those with small enough IQs not to realize they're promoting that which they claim to be against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Yup. And that's a tact that one who believes in "liberty" takes... oh, wait, no it's not. That's the path of fascists... progressive fascism is all the rage right now, especially among those with small enough IQs not to realize they're promoting that which they claim to be against. i hope we all try to do our best and live a decent life and help out people in our life when they need it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, KRC said: When you need to fabricate other people's opinions just so that you can complain, you have lost. He came in with his preconceived bias. His attempt at glibness with his calling his viewpoint (my bias is liberty, science, and reason,) gives away his whole purpose. It is certain that he did not really attempt to see what the articles or videos said, why bother ? He knows that his bigoted narrative can't be wrong. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 only a total doosh would trumpet his worship of liberty/science/reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, row_33 said: that is quite a leap into metaphysics and your little metanarrative there that's not reason or logic or science at least 4 levels of straw man in your comment please show some sign that you have reason and science and logic in your mind at all, pretty please?? Those are some nice triple word scores you have there, unfortunately, the definitions aren't relevant at all. A zygote, embryo, or fetus is not a person any more than a tree is a house, a cow is a steak, or a piece of steel ore is a BMW. It's almost universal that different laws and regulations apply to materials and organisms in different states of existence, because as human being we can understand all of the above to be true. The issue comes when you start to involve religion, because then all of that basic understanding goes straight out the window in lieu of following stories in a book that most proponents probably haven't even read. Without religion, the amount of anti-choice proponents would probably not be statistically significant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) https://www.babycenter.com 14 weeks Your baby's kidneys are producing urine, and he releases it into the amniotic fluid. He can make facial expressions and may have discovered thumb-sucking. 15 weeks Your baby can see light that filters in from outside your womb, even though her eyelids are still shut. 16 weeks Your baby's sex may be detectable at your mid-pregnancy ultrasound, which typically happens between 16 and 20 weeks. 18 weeks If you haven't felt your baby move yet, you probably will in the next few weeks. It'll take a couple of weeks longer for other people to feel your baby's movements from the outside. 19 weeks Your baby can hear your heartbeat and sounds that come from outside your body, such as your partner's voice. Her skin is wrinkly and is covered by a protective, waxy coating. She measures about 6 inches from head to bottom and weighs about 8 1/2 ounces. 23 weeks Your baby's sense of movement has developed, so he can feel the motion if you dance. His sense of hearing continues to improve. You may sometimes be able to see him squirming under the surface of your belly. 24 weeks Your baby's taste buds are developing. Her brain is growing very quickly, and her hair may be growing, too. She's almost a foot long and weighs just over a pound. 27 weeks Your baby's lungs are developing but won't be fully functional for several more weeks. He's "practicing" for life on the outside by inhaling and exhaling amniotic fluid, sleeping and waking up at regular intervals, opening and closing his eyes, and sucking his fingers. Third trimester 28 weeks Your baby may be dreaming. She has eyelashes, and her eyesight is improving. Billions of neurons are developing in her brain. She weighs about 2 1/4 pounds and is about 15 inches long, head to heel. 32 weeks He's grown cute little fingernails and toenails. Your baby is also starting to plump up in preparation for birth. He's almost 17 inches long (head to heel) and weighs about 3 3/4 pounds. 34 weeks Your baby's lungs and central nervous system are continuing to develop. Her skin has become soft and smooth, and she's filling out and getting even rounder. She's almost 18 inches long and weighs about 4 3/4 pounds. 37 weeks Your baby is now considered "early term." Babies born now usually do well, but ideally he'll stay in your womb for a couple more weeks to give his brain and lungs time to fully mature. 39 weeks Your baby is now considered full-term and is ready for life outside the womb. The average weight of a newborn is about 7 1/2 pounds, and the average length is about 20 inches. 41 weeks You've passed your due date and your baby is now considered "late term." (If you're still pregnant at 42 weeks, she's "post term.") Your baby's health may be monitored with tests such as a nonstress test or biophysical profile. To avoid complications, your doctor will probably talk to you about inducing labor in the next week or two. Not sure if it's really a human, are you. Edited June 7, 2019 by Nanker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Without religion, the amount of anti-choice proponents would probably not be statistically significant. Then again, science has given people a greater understanding of the development of a fetus into a human baby while in the womb. Science has provided images which allow people to see exactly how alive that "piece of steel" is inside their bodies. ... But sure, put it all on religion like one who believes in "liberty" does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Then again, science has given people a greater understanding of the development of a fetus into a human baby while in the womb. Science has provided images which allow people to see exactly how alive that "piece of steel" is inside their bodies. ... But sure, put it all on religion like one who believes in "liberty" does. Sure, that's cute at all, but it's not relevant. It's not a person. You can watch a BMW being made in the shop and at a certain point it can look like a car, but you can't drive it. Everything has to have parameters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Nanker said: https://www.babycenter.com 14 weeks Your baby's kidneys are producing urine, and he releases it into the amniotic fluid. He can make facial expressions and may have discovered thumb-sucking. 15 weeks Your baby can see light that filters in from outside your womb, even though her eyelids are still shut. 16 weeks Your baby's sex may be detectable at your mid-pregnancy ultrasound, which typically happens between 16 and 20 weeks. 18 weeks If you haven't felt your baby move yet, you probably will in the next few weeks. It'll take a couple of weeks longer for other people to feel your baby's movements from the outside. 19 weeks Your baby can hear your heartbeat and sounds that come from outside your body, such as your partner's voice. Her skin is wrinkly and is covered by a protective, waxy coating. She measures about 6 inches from head to bottom and weighs about 8 1/2 ounces. 23 weeks Your baby's sense of movement has developed, so he can feel the motion if you dance. His sense of hearing continues to improve. You may sometimes be able to see him squirming under the surface of your belly. 24 weeks Your baby's taste buds are developing. Her brain is growing very quickly, and her hair may be growing, too. She's almost a foot long and weighs just over a pound. 27 weeks Your baby's lungs are developing but won't be fully functional for several more weeks. He's "practicing" for life on the outside by inhaling and exhaling amniotic fluid, sleeping and waking up at regular intervals, opening and closing his eyes, and sucking his fingers. Third trimester 28 weeks Your baby may be dreaming. She has eyelashes, and her eyesight is improving. Billions of neurons are developing in her brain. She weighs about 2 1/4 pounds and is about 15 inches long, head to heel. 32 weeks He's grown cute little fingernails and toenails. Your baby is also starting to plump up in preparation for birth. He's almost 17 inches long (head to heel) and weighs about 3 3/4 pounds. 34 weeks Your baby's lungs and central nervous system are continuing to develop. Her skin has become soft and smooth, and she's filling out and getting even rounder. She's almost 18 inches long and weighs about 4 3/4 pounds. 37 weeks Your baby is now considered "early term." Babies born now usually do well, but ideally he'll stay in your womb for a couple more weeks to give his brain and lungs time to fully mature. 39 weeks Your baby is now considered full-term and is ready for life outside the womb. The average weight of a newborn is about 7 1/2 pounds, and the average length is about 20 inches. 41 weeks You've passed your due date and your baby is now considered "late term." (If you're still pregnant at 42 weeks, she's "post term.") Your baby's health may be monitored with tests such as a nonstress test or biophysical profile. To avoid complications, your doctor will probably talk to you about inducing labor in the next week or two. Not sure if it's really a human, are you. Are migrants humans? Hypocrite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Just now, BullBuchanan said: Sure, that's cute at all, but it's not relevant. It's entirely relevant and makes your argument that if not for religion people wouldn't care moot. But keep on bashing religion. That's what liberty means to you after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Then again, science has given people a greater understanding of the development of a fetus into a human baby while in the womb. Science has provided images which allow people to see exactly how alive that "piece of steel" is inside their bodies. ... But sure, put it all on religion like one who believes in "liberty" does. You have your right to believe in religion, and live in a way that accords with it, as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of someone else to live theirs. Just now, Deranged Rhino said: It's entirely relevant and makes your argument that if not for religion people wouldn't care moot. But keep on bashing religion. That's what liberty means to you after all. Being able to bash religion is EXACTLY what liberty is, just as your right to believe in it is also EXACTLY what liberty is. Go ahead and tell people that having an abortion is wrong or morally bankrupt. That's your right. What isn't your right is supporting a cause that prevents them from exercising their own choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 26CP/BM/BF/JA/BB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Nanker said: 26CP/BM/BF/JA/BB? No. just pure Bull............................... . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Are migrants humans? Hypocrite yes they are human, no they are not citizens of the USA. No one is trying to abort the migrants. But just like abortions, I don't want to pay for them! What's your point? Edited June 7, 2019 by Gary M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, Gary M said: yes they are human, no they are not citizens of the USA. No one is trying to abort the migrants. But just like abortions, I don't want to pay for them! What's your point? Good, how about treating them like humans that need help? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Good, how about treating them like humans that need help? https://www.usglc.org/faq-violence-migration-and-u-s-assistance-to-central-america/ https://explorer.usaid.gov/cd/GTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gary M said: https://www.usglc.org/faq-violence-migration-and-u-s-assistance-to-central-america/ https://explorer.usaid.gov/cd/GTM Scapegoating people is not treating them with respect or in a civilized manner Immigration and Crime | American Immigration Council https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/topics/immigration-and-crime Sorry Trump, Immigration is Still Associated with Less Crime and Safer Communities. The presidential candidate's attempt to correlate immigration and crime is ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Scapegoating people is not treating them with respect or in a civilized manner Immigration and Crime | American Immigration Council https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/topics/immigration-and-crime Sorry Trump, Immigration is Still Associated with Less Crime and Safer Communities. The presidential candidate's attempt to correlate immigration and crime is … Who did those links scapegoat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Why a third trimester abortion is even a discussion is beyond me. The circumstances of the pregnancy are already long decided by the third trimester. Women have a chance to abort an unwanted pregnancy early on. Going thru the pregnancy and then all of a sudden late in the pregnancy they want to abort the baby? Let that sink in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) Gary................quit chasing the ?️ ?️ ?️ Biden Flips Again on Hyde Amendment, Now Supports Taxpayer Funded Abortions Biden caves to critics, will support federal funding for abortion one day after saying he was against it. Bullied into it by the Left U. Alabama May Return Massive Financial Gift Over Donor’s Abortion Remarks Only one narrative permitted . Edited June 7, 2019 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 i just learned today that the procedure isn't covered... through Biden Agonistes on the matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 3 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: Those are some nice triple word scores you have there, unfortunately, the definitions aren't relevant at all. A zygote, embryo, or fetus is not a person any more than a tree is a house, a cow is a steak, or a piece of steel ore is a BMW. It's almost universal that different laws and regulations apply to materials and organisms in different states of existence, because as human being we can understand all of the above to be true. The issue comes when you start to involve religion, because then all of that basic understanding goes straight out the window in lieu of following stories in a book that most proponents probably haven't even read. Without religion, the amount of anti-choice proponents would probably not be statistically significant. Dumbass hasn't even heard of a treehouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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