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I would spend too much money to get Saffold / Paradis / John Brown / Tyrell Williams

 

That hopefully locks up LT / LG / C and gives Allen two WRs who can win deep.

 

I think the value is going to be on DL where we draft (which isn't not a need) in the 1st round, but following that up with BPA spread accross WR / TE / OL / RB could maybe put us in position to be half decent for Allen.

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Talent executes a plan.  IMO, the planning and game strategy is the bigger problem for the Bills.  Ultimately that falls on McDermott but on a practical week to week level, he's relying on his coordinator and coaches to frame out a plan, plays, etc.  

 

I'll save the Bills a lot of money and fire the entire offensive coaching staff and start anew with a coordinator with a proven track record of success in the NFL.  No more mediocrity.  No more college guys.  I'd rather one bad season with Daboll versus three of them just so we can have "consistency."  There's no reason to think any of it will improve.  

 

Daboll is Todd Haley without the attitude problems.  Castillo and the rest of the unit coaches have clearly not gotten it done.  I don't know why we'd entertain another season of more of the same.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, GimmeSomeProcess said:

Been saying for a while that Paradise needs to be be target of hits free agency, make him the highest paid center or give Mitch Morse a nice contract. 

 

The Broncos have Paradis and LG Billy Turner both as upcoming FAs. I doubt (though it is not impossible) they are able to re-sign both and I think whichever one they don't should be the Bills #1 target. Ideally that is Paradis because I think there are several other options at guard.  I really like Quinton Spain from Tennessee. I think his lack of big name profile might mean that you get him at a more reasonable price too. He would be a massive, instant upgrade. If you can't get Paradis then the alternatives at center are less impressive.

3 minutes ago, dpberr said:

Talent executes a plan. 

 

 

We haven't got any talent. That is why the plan is bad. Our RT executed a cut block so effectively on Monday night that he took himself and our RG out of the play in one strike leaving two unblocked rushers running at Anderson.

 

With talent like that who needs a plan?

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16 minutes ago, dpberr said:

Talent executes a plan.  IMO, the planning and game strategy is the bigger problem for the Bills.  Ultimately that falls on McDermott but on a practical week to week level, he's relying on his coordinator and coaches to frame out a plan, plays, etc.  

 

I'll save the Bills a lot of money and fire the entire offensive coaching staff and start anew with a coordinator with a proven track record of success in the NFL.  No more mediocrity.  No more college guys.  I'd rather one bad season with Daboll versus three of them just so we can have "consistency."  There's no reason to think any of it will improve.  

 

Daboll is Todd Haley without the attitude problems.  Castillo and the rest of the unit coaches have clearly not gotten it done.  I don't know why we'd entertain another season of more of the same.

 

 

 

Our offensive coordinator job is currently a career killer.  No "proven track record of success" OC on his way up the ladder towards  HC would even entertain our phone call.  Which leaves us sifting through the fringes of failed former OCs, position coaches getting a promotion or college coaches.

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Fixing the o-line will help a ton.  Get make-able 3rd downs.  Get something resembling a big play.

 

I like a  john brown or williams with some speed.  Maybe even a tate or hogan too, or a Demaryous thomas should he become available.  Overhaul is needed at the WR position.  If Pryor can do anything maybe keep him.  Other than that I'm good with just Zay coming back.  Ray Ray can try and make the roster, but so far they can't trust him on punts and he already got sent home from a road game so i don't like his chances.  

 

I know a lot of those guys aren't exactly young, but if the 1st rounder is in the top 5, and no one wants to trade up for a QB - i want the BPA 100%.  We aren't a talented enough team to draft for a need like WR or interior Oline.  If its a DT or a DE, bring him in.  We're still in the building blocks stage.

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8 minutes ago, dneveu said:

Fixing the o-line will help a ton.  Get make-able 3rd downs.  Get something resembling a big play.

 

I like a  john brown or williams with some speed.  Maybe even a tate or hogan too, or a Demaryous thomas should he become available.  Overhaul is needed at the WR position.  If Pryor can do anything maybe keep him.  Other than that I'm good with just Zay coming back.  Ray Ray can try and make the roster, but so far they can't trust him on punts and he already got sent home from a road game so i don't like his chances.  

 

I know a lot of those guys aren't exactly young, but if the 1st rounder is in the top 5, and no one wants to trade up for a QB - i want the BPA 100%.  We aren't a talented enough team to draft for a need like WR or interior Oline.  If its a DT or a DE, bring him in.  We're still in the building blocks stage.

I'd focus on gobbling up 2-3 of those O-lineman in FA and at least 1 WR. Draft good young offensive weapons, I'm not sure BPA on D-line with our first rd pick is the right idea though. I'd personally like to see us trade back if possible.

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6 minutes ago, dneveu said:

Fixing the o-line will help a ton.  Get make-able 3rd downs.  Get something resembling a big play.

 

I like a  john brown or williams with some speed.  Maybe even a tate or hogan too, or a Demaryous thomas should he become available.  Overhaul is needed at the WR position.  If Pryor can do anything maybe keep him.  Other than that I'm good with just Zay coming back.  Ray Ray can try and make the roster, but so far they can't trust him on punts and he already got sent home from a road game so i don't like his chances.  

 

I know a lot of those guys aren't exactly young, but if the 1st rounder is in the top 5, and no one wants to trade up for a QB - i want the BPA 100%.  We aren't a talented enough team to draft for a need like WR or interior Oline.  If its a DT or a DE, bring him in.  We're still in the building blocks stage.

 

I think offensive line needs to be a focus in FA.  We need at least 2 new starters, I think Center and RG are most urgent.  Could definitely use an upgrade at RT too.

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2 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

I'd focus on gobbling up 2-3 of those O-lineman in FA and at least 1 WR. Draft good young offensive weapons, I'm not sure BPA on D-line with our first rd pick is the right idea though. I'd personally like to see us trade back if possible.

 

It's tough though - the best trade back options are if there's a super good player who falls to us at say 4... or QB.  If none of the QBs make it in that 1-5 zone its hard to trade back.

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14 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said:

 

 

Our offensive coordinator job is currently a career killer.  No "proven track record of success" OC on his way up the ladder towards  HC would even entertain our phone call.  Which leaves us sifting through the fringes of failed former OCs, position coaches getting a promotion or college coaches.

You apparently did not actually read the article in the OP.  The author specifically talks about Daboll doing a good job but being hamstrung by the talent.

 

You can agree or not, but it would be nice for folks to read articles referred to before commenting.

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19 minutes ago, dpberr said:

Talent executes a plan.  IMO, the planning and game strategy is the bigger problem for the Bills.  Ultimately that falls on McDermott but on a practical week to week level, he's relying on his coordinator and coaches to frame out a plan, plays, etc.  

 

I'll save the Bills a lot of money and fire the entire offensive coaching staff and start anew with a coordinator with a proven track record of success in the NFL.  No more mediocrity.  No more college guys.  I'd rather one bad season with Daboll versus three of them just so we can have "consistency."  There's no reason to think any of it will improve.  

 

Daboll is Todd Haley without the attitude problems.  Castillo and the rest of the unit coaches have clearly not gotten it done.  I don't know why we'd entertain another season of more of the same.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't disagree with a lot of what you're saying, but I do not want to give Allen an all new offensive system going into his sophomore season.  I hope they keep the entire staff for at least 2019.   We can't try to develop a young QB while throwing a new coordinator and new coaching staff at him every offseason.    Castillo I would have never hired to begin with.  

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5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I think offensive line needs to be a focus in FA.  We need at least 2 new starters, I think Center and RG are most urgent.  Could definitely use an upgrade at RT too.

I'm hoping Tiller or Bottinger step up at G.  I can't imagine they won't use some cap space on the O line and at WR.

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6 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

I'd focus on gobbling up 2-3 of those O-lineman in FA and at least 1 WR. Draft good young offensive weapons, I'm not sure BPA on D-line with our first rd pick is the right idea though. I'd personally like to see us trade back if possible.

 

It is if those top 2 are there and in a class of their own. Which at the moment is pretty much where I have them.

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4 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

It's tough though - the best trade back options are if there's a super good player who falls to us at say 4... or QB.  If none of the QBs make it in that 1-5 zone its hard to trade back.

I hear you there. I just hope most gets addressed in FA. We will need a stud WR to fall to us in the 2nd possibly if we go D first? I wouldn't mind seeing a young RB and TE coming in as well.

Offseason will be interesting. .

 

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