ComradeKayAdams Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 49 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Kay, all I can say is thank God we didn’t have M4A when we got caught up in the Covid19 crisis. Government run healthcare would still be trying to find the government issued thermometers. You know, the ones you put in your mouth with the little bulb of mercury. The ones they’d purchased back in 1958. Fair enough, but I don’t think the debate on M4A should be dismissed so readily by an argument that a government-run service = intrinsically incompetent. I’ll probably start a separate health care thread this summer once we have a more complete understanding of how each country in the world was able to navigate the dual crises of a pandemic + potential global economic depression. My concerns with how the U.S. will fare under our employer-based health care system are not alleviated by all the other countries in red here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_universal_health_care Not exactly a who’s who of international success stories.
SoCal Deek Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 1 minute ago, RealKayAdams said: Fair enough, but I don’t think the debate on M4A should be dismissed so readily by an argument that a government-run service = intrinsically incompetent. I’ll probably start a separate health care thread this summer once we have a more complete understanding of how each country in the world was able to navigate the dual crises of a pandemic + potential global economic depression. My concerns with how the U.S. will fare under our employer-based health care system are not alleviated by all the other countries in red here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_universal_health_care Not exactly a who’s who of international success stories. We can go back and forth for days. I’m not really a health care voter. I’ve been fortunate to consume very little health care over a semi-long life. But....I do work with a number of state agencies every day in my profession and I can tell you from personal experience that NOTHING ever invented by the human species works slower than a State Agency. Literally nothing!
Chef Jim Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: This is really going to be the Democratic candidate? Jesus that's embarrassing. Like when I goof on my wife Wife: Did you get those things? Me: You mean those thing at that place with those people? Edited April 18, 2020 by Chef Jim 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 On 4/16/2020 at 9:58 PM, Albwan said: That pic scares the living daylights out of me. ...saw it in the Post Office yesterday....believe it was #4............
B-Man Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 Funny how that Michelle Obama 'endorsement' for Joe Biden requires 'talks' by Monica Showalter Original Article If Joe Biden were a normal candidate, it seems it would be a breeze for any Democrat to endorse him. Not the case for the Obamas. Michelle Obama is in "talks" with the Biden team on all the conditions necessary to obtain her endorsement. According to Fox News: Former Vice President Joe Biden’s team is speaking with former first lady Michelle Obama about winning her endorsement and having her play a role in his campaign, according to a report. .
B-Man Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 Clyburn To Biden Campaign: C’mon Man, Hire More African-Americans ? 1
ALF Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 Biden has one VP pick that stands above the rest Sen. Elizabeth Warren. https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/18/opinions/biden-vp-pick-stands-above-the-rest-zelizer/index.html Would make sense to get Sanders supporters
Chef Jim Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, ALF said: Biden has one VP pick that stands above the rest Sen. Elizabeth Warren. https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/18/opinions/biden-vp-pick-stands-above-the-rest-zelizer/index.html Would make sense to get Sanders supporters And lose by even a bigger margin.
3rdnlng Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, ALF said: Biden has one VP pick that stands above the rest Sen. Elizabeth Warren. https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/18/opinions/biden-vp-pick-stands-above-the-rest-zelizer/index.html Would make sense to get Sanders supporters "Stands With A Fist" would be a good injun name for her. 1
RiotAct Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 On 4/18/2020 at 9:35 AM, Chef Jim said: Jesus that's embarrassing. Like when I goof on my wife Wife: Did you get those things? Me: You mean those thing at that place with those people? and then you factor by the end of his first term he’ll be four years more senile than he is right now. Jesus.
njbuff Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 Joe Biden is starting to remind of Mr Magoo over and over. 2
Chef Jim Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 1 hour ago, RiotAct said: and then you factor by the end of his first term he’ll be four years more senile than he is right now. Jesus. ***** that. I’m worried about the first four weeks. 1
mead107 Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 If Biden wins he will resign with in 6 months. Hillary will be president.
LSHMEAB Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 On 4/18/2020 at 6:08 AM, RealKayAdams said: Bernie had a very viable path to nomination until the epic centrist consolidation before Super Tuesday. He was doing fine with women (a slight majority of the Bernie supporters in 2020!), although Liz Warren was stealing a lot of the suburban female vote and did Bernie no favors by not dropping out before ST. Bernie was also doing well with all minority groups except older African-Americans. But that Boomer black voting bloc is so crucial to the Democratic Party, so not making inroads with them was a fatal campaign flaw. This. The boomer black voting bloc gave us Hillary, and now Biden. That's the bottom line. Thanks, but no thanks. Bernie is BUILT for this situation. Damn shame. 1
LSHMEAB Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 @RealKayAdams To be perfectly clear, I will absolutely be voting for Biden because I don't want to see a runaway SC and I'd prefer progressive ideas not get vetoed. But I won't be doing so enthusiastically. Pretty sure he'll win Nevada, but I think he's only got about a 35-40 percent chance of winning the GE. Republicans walk in lock step with their candidate while Democrats cannibalize their own. Too many Bernie bros are gonna sit this one out, and that's a shame, even if I get it. Classic vote against candidate X scenario. Didn't work in 2016. Probably won't work this time around.
SydneyBillsFan Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 On 4/18/2020 at 2:29 AM, Buffalo_Gal said: This is really going to be the Democratic candidate? To break this down: This incoherent, mumbling, bumbling fool is - at least mathematically - a 50% chance of becoming the leader of the free world. My dear God! 2 1 1 1
ComradeKayAdams Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, LSHMEAB said: @RealKayAdams To be perfectly clear, I will absolutely be voting for Biden because I don't want to see a runaway SC and I'd prefer progressive ideas not get vetoed. But I won't be doing so enthusiastically. Pretty sure he'll win Nevada, but I think he's only got about a 35-40 percent chance of winning the GE. Republicans walk in lock step with their candidate while Democrats cannibalize their own. Too many Bernie bros are gonna sit this one out, and that's a shame, even if I get it. Classic vote against candidate X scenario. Didn't work in 2016. Probably won't work this time around. It’s okay I understand, just make sure you hold Biden’s feet to the fire if he gets elected. You should also demand to know Biden’s short list of SC judges before the election. Same goes for his VP choice. My best guess is that it will be filled with lackluster anti-union neoliberal types. I’ve already decided to vote Green in a blue non-swing state. I’m recommending the same for all other progressives who live in obvious non-swing states or who are otherwise planning to stay home on November 3. Good to see you back on PPP, by the way! I think we are the only Bernie supporters here?? 1
Recommended Posts