BuffaloRush Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 Just now, SoTier said: I agree. McDermott is a decent coach but he should never have been given control of personnel. Beane has absolutely no experience in player personnel, and the scouting staff brought in to replace the scouting personnel who were fired shortly after Whaley was canned are apparently incompetent. Where has this every been stated? It's been stated by the team that Beane has control over the 53 man roster. You claiming that McDermott has "control over the personnel" is pure conjecture without any proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, PIZ said: Cut the following and take a chance on some rookies or other teams practice squad players. These guys suck: FB - Patrick Dimarco. OL - Miller. OL - McDermott. OL - Mills. QB - Peterman. WR - Holmes. WR - Benjamin. Trade Shady and Hughes for a good, young, OL that can start for Bills, but is 2nd string elsewhere. Sign a vet QB. Dimarco is the only one getting push in the run game, they need to use him more . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 They could start by having Daboll figure out how to run the ball. McCoy had 5 runs today and averaged 4.8 yards. You can develop a pretty good base for an offense if you ran the ball 25 times and averaged 4.8 yards a carry. It would help the offensive line and let Allen play-action more effectively. They could stop running Allen. For as bad as the Bills offense is, it gets immediately worse if Allen gets hurt and Peterman gets the starter's job. They could be more aggressive on defense. The defense is much better when it creates pressure than when it sits back in zones. They could start stopping teams in the red zone. They're allowing TDs on 90% of red zone tries right now. McDermott has to figure this out. The defensive personnel is probably better than it was last season. Again, being more aggressive could help here, but it seems that more can be done with the personnel packages. In terms of adding talent, it seems as if any signing at QB, even on a short term deal is a better option at backup QB than Peterman. McDermott has to face reality so that the front office can make the move, because, the way he is currently running the team now, it's only a matter of time when Allen gets hurt. So, just based on observations, the defense is better when it blitzes, the offense hasn't run nearly enough, and Allen's health situation is a ticking time bomb. Better schemes and a one year deal for a QB like Lynch could help this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloRush said: Where has this every been stated? It's been stated by the team that Beane has control over the 53 man roster. You claiming that McDermott has "control over the personnel" is pure conjecture without any proof. Keep being disingenuous. McDermott won the power struggle with Whaley before the 2017 draft, and hasn't relinquished his power over the roster since. The claim that McDermott and Beane "are joined at the hip" is simply code for McDermott making personnel decisions and the GM doing the legwork to acquire said players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 33 minutes ago, SoTier said: That's what a competent HC/GM duo would have done. Instead, McDermott and Beane stripped virtually all the talent from the offense, and put Allen in a position that sets him up to fail. The Bills need to significantly upgrade the OL by adding at least a couple of higher caliber interior OLers in FA. They need all new WRs. They need a starting caliber RB. What I expect the Dynamic Duo of McDermott and Beane to do in the off-season is to spend most of their FA money and draft capital on the defensive side of the ball. . I think they bought their own hype and felt they could coach a bunch of second stringers like they did last year. They should have realized losing 3 pro bowl level players from the Oline could not just be easily replaced with backups. The WR situation was bad last year and should have been addressed but again they figured they could get by. You should ALWAYS surround a franchise QB with talent so he can grow properly and not learn bad habits running for his life. I still believe in McBeane, hopefully they learn from their mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 15 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: Where has this every been stated? It's been stated by the team that Beane has control over the 53 man roster. You claiming that McDermott has "control over the personnel" is pure conjecture without any proof. 18 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: We don't think they'll get atleast 5 years....we know they'll get atleast 5 years. DEAL WITH IT!!! I enjoy you calling out someone mere minutes after you did similar if not more egregious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I think they bought their own hype and felt they could coach a bunch of second stringers like they did last year. They should have realized losing 3 pro bowl level players from the Oline could not just be easily replaced with backups. The WR situation was bad last year and should have been addressed but again they figured they could get by. You should ALWAYS surround a franchise QB with talent so he can grow properly and not learn bad habits running for his life. I still believe in McBeane, hopefully they learn from their mistakes. Not that I agree with it, but the premise was that McCarron or Nate would start while Allen would "sit & learn". Still, that OLine and WR corp needed to be addressed. It's clear most of you feel this is hopeless if you can only talk of the past or next year's draft. All fine and dandy but this thread was to be about the present. The difference between winning and losing is often very small, so even this season is not done yet. The NFL has to do like hockey. It's not normal it's AUTOMATICALLY better to be 2-14 than 7-9 for the draft. The NHL lottery is a great idea. You guys really want to watch a 1-15 season just so the team drafts higher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 17 minutes ago, SoTier said: Keep being disingenuous. McDermott won the power struggle with Whaley before the 2017 draft, and hasn't relinquished his power over the roster since. The claim that McDermott and Beane "are joined at the hip" is simply code for McDermott making personnel decisions and the GM doing the legwork to acquire said players. I've never once read any credible source in the media make this claim. This is pure conjecture and speculation on your part and you have ZERO evidence to back it up, other than your opinion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 35 minutes ago, jrober38 said: This feels an awful lot like the debacles in Denver with McDaniels and Philly with Chip Kelly. Rookie head coaches with too much power who gutted their teams after the 1st year to bring in "their guys", who wound up with terrible rosters that couldn't compete for years. Does it end with Super Bowls for the next regime, like with those teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, jrober38 said: Last year McDermott looked like a decent coach, but their team building has been atrocious. They came on the job, got rid of all our best players, replaced them with bums and have mostly used all our draft picks on horrible players, and the result is one of the worst rosters in the league. They have one more year to improve things. If this roster isn't significantly better at the end of 2019 we need to pull the plug on this experiment. White Dawkins Milano Allen Edmunds Phillips Johnson From 2 drafts. White, Dawkins and Milano are solid starters. The other 4 are rookies that are contributing already. I'd say that's pretty good drafting. Edited October 1, 2018 by vincec 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 23 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: Not that I agree with it, but the premise was that McCarron or Nate would start while Allen would "sit & learn". Still, that OLine and WR corp needed to be addressed. It's clear most of you feel this is hopeless if you can only talk of the past or next year's draft. All fine and dandy but this thread was to be about the present. The difference between winning and losing is often very small, so even this season is not done yet. The NFL has to do like hockey. It's not normal it's AUTOMATICALLY better to be 2-14 than 7-9 for the draft. The NHL lottery is a great idea. You guys really want to watch a 1-15 season just so the team drafts higher? I'm a realist, this season is done. there is no overcoming the lack of talent on this team. If you were aware of this upcoming draft you would know it's loaded with defensive superstars (another reason to focus on the D next year). Along with some decent WRs and Olinemen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) Brady has to retire by 2025 and a team finishing first has to be called a division winner even if it goes 6-10 so there is hope Edited October 1, 2018 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 What would I do right now? 1. Have a heart to heart with my OC and dial up Shady more. Dial up some short passes, bail out options etc. for my young QB. 2. Simplify my blocking schemes. Go man on man vs. zone blocking schemes. Or consider bringing in a better O line coach. 3. Bench or trade Benjamin. Get on the waiver wire and bring in some young, hungry WRs. Benjamin does not look the least interested in playing football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 37 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: What would I do right now? 1. Have a heart to heart with my OC and dial up Shady more. Dial up some short passes, bail out options etc. for my young QB. 2. Simplify my blocking schemes. Go man on man vs. zone blocking schemes. Or consider bringing in a better O line coach. 3. Bench or trade Benjamin. Get on the waiver wire and bring in some young, hungry WRs. Benjamin does not look the least interested in playing football. 1 I don't think he has any trade value. Also, to me, he's a one dimensional player that should only be in the game from the opponents 10 yard line going in. Outside of that Benjamin is not good. He cannot separate; he doesn't play to his size; and he's lazy at times. Mehhh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 10 hours ago, vincec said: White Dawkins Milano Allen Edmunds Phillips Johnson From 2 drafts. White, Dawkins and Milano are solid starters. The other 4 are rookies that are contributing already. I'd say that's pretty good drafting. excluding the QB, its average drafting. If Allen becomes a top 10 QB its great drafting. If Allen becomes a top 20 QB, its good drafting. If Allen washes out, its bad drafting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, PlayoffsPlease said: excluding the QB, its average drafting. If Allen becomes a top 10 QB its great drafting. If Allen becomes a top 20 QB, its good drafting. If Allen washes out, its bad drafting. Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 13 hours ago, Perry Turtle said: So, just based on observations, the defense is better when it blitzes, the offense hasn't run nearly enough, and Allen's health situation is a ticking time bomb. Better schemes and a one year deal for a QB like Lynch could help this season. it drives me insane that we can never get a blitzing defense. as far as the run, i was really scratching my head yesterday because with a fg or two maybe we could have got some momentum going and kept it within a couple of scores. however at 3rd and 4 or 5, in fg range, instead of trying to get a lead block and run the ball, we call a pass break only to see them bring the house and drop josh for a 10 yd loss and no chance for 3....wtf? dabol clearly out smarted ( maybe a poor choice of word) himself.) frazier is just the rick dennison of defense. what a joke that game was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) Grab a center in free agency, a guard too. sign a couple of wrs to compete as well. If we draft top 10, either take the best blue chip player we can get, if it's a WR great, if not, entertain options to trade back and acquire more picks. We need at least one interior olineman, we need a WR, we need a CB. I know we already have 10 picks, and i definitely would be moving up we need 2-2nd rounders and 2-3rd rounders, to go with 2-1st rounders if we can get em. I'd fire Castillo, i'd hire another OL coach, not sure who but anyone at this point is preferable. Edited October 1, 2018 by Soda Popinski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) as to the op topic, the first thing i would do is bring back oleary and brandon reilly. i would cut khari lee, maybe send one of the olineman back to the p.s. i would also probably bring levi wallace up and cut pitts if i can't come up with a spot some other way. wallace needs some experience. it wouldn't hurt my feelings to see vlad cut, miller benched, putting teller at lg and groy at rg. two things are for sure...we need a couple of guys familiar with the playbook that can get open. oleary and reilly can do that. 13 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: Grab a center in free agency, a guard too. sign a couple of wrs to compete as well. If we draft top 10, either take the best blue chip player we can get, if it's a WR great, if not, entertain options to trade back and acquire more picks. We need at least one interior olineman, we need a WR, we need a CB. I know we already have 10 picks, and i definitely would be moving up we need 2-2nd rounders and 2-3rd rounders, to go with 2-1st rounders if we can get em. I'd fire Castillo, i'd hire another OL coach, not sure who but anyone at this point is preferable. i made my point in regard to what could feasibly be done now. the bolded could and should be done asap. Edited October 1, 2018 by billsredneck1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 13 hours ago, BuffaloRush said: We don't think they'll get atleast 5 years....we know they'll get atleast 5 years. DEAL WITH IT!!! sometimes they get honest enough to state they've had enough after 2 years of suck Rex burst the pus-infested pimple of his coaching regime thankfully before he had to by contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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