PlayoffsPlease Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ctk232 said: While it’s too early to tell for Allen, I agree with trying to trade shady for a pick. Regardless of whether Allen pans out or not, draft offense, give him a crew and if he doesn’t pan out, let’s hope the next guy we bring in can get right to work with the weapons we built. Build a WR corps and an Oline that can perform at an NFL level each week. Address defense in FA as much as possible. We desperately need depth in our secondary - a stout DB2 is an absolute next to White. Depth is always needed at that position but our holes are obvious. Contributory to that is need to fill out the DLine. While Edmunds develops we need consistent pass rush pressure and run stoppage, but it needs to start on the line. We are in the "year to late" situation for Trading Shady. He is no longer worth his contract expense. This does not mean he is a bad player. It means he has no trade value. Edited September 30, 2018 by PlayoffsPlease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Once again, a team with just about nothing but holes, I'm glad I'm not GM. It' like groundhog day, they lose horribly multiple times, somehow get a win, go on to lose horribly multiple time, meanwhile pats lose a game people bury them, the next week they look superbowl bound. Next, bills will win 5 meaningless games to knock them down to the 10th pick, where they draft a wr who goes somewhere else bacause he has no one to throw to him. Rinse, repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: You could make that statement about the starting QB for every team in the league and you'd be right more than you'd be wrong. You may be right about Allen, the odds are in your favor, but the one thing I do know for certain is you have absolutely no idea yourself whether he will work out to be great or not, but you think you know more than people who do this for a living and the odds are in your favor of being correct. The people who do this for a living have horrible track records if you bother to look into it. They make huge mistakes every draft year, which is why it's a horrible idea to ever trade UP in a draft. Always trade down and increase the # of picks you get, b/c that's all you can control. How these players turn out is a crap shoot. I agree I don't have a definitive idea of how Allen is going to play out, but I can analyze the indicators, look at history with other QBs, watch his development to date, etc. Bills fans right now have totally forgotten that Allen was--and remains--a long shot project type player who is unlikely to succeed at the NFL level, as you seem to agree. I have seen nothing to suggest he will prove better than that. If we genuinely end up with a top 3 pick next year, I think it would be disastrous to NOT take another top QB prospect. If they both look really good (both QBs) we can trade one of them. If they don't, we can keep the good one. If both bust, at least we tried and we can select a 3rd QB in the following draft. I think there is virtually no chance the administration will actually do that, however, and that is because they are making decisions for their jobs, and not the good of the team. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 hour ago, joesixpack said: I'd say bench Miller, elevate Teller and the guy they just brought in. Let them battle it out for that position. as far as game planning goes, focus more on quick-hitter routes, flat passes and running the ball. also, i'd take the sheet away from frasier full time and have mcD make the d calls .......why not?......the Lewis kid got pressed into service and showed up.......same for Taron Johnson.......as far as "game planning" goes, it's like if "the plan" ain't working, oh well....we are absolutely terrible with adjusting and/or counter punching.......thought Daboll was to be innovative, but so far it is Dabumble....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 34 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: Guys, he mentions what can be done NOW. We all know drafts and all and etc. To me, much better offensive play calling. Small passes to the flats, reverses, 2 back sets, more involvement of the TE, basically mask some of the weaknesses of the OLine and get Allen and the offense into a groove. Don't ditch the run. Have a few max protection plays for deep throws to have the opposing defenses always wary of Allen's arm. A LOT of things went right last week, but many of the successes can be reproduced too! Need much better coaching to adapt to blitzes! Sure Allen has misses some assignment calls, but the OLine has been guilty too, and mostly, when have the wideouts/TE changed their routes to be a quick dump off? With the salary cap left, no WR they can sign? Bryant is a diva but maybe can be had for just the reminder of the year. Define "now" in the context of this thread. Does that mean the next 5 minutes? This week? This month? This year? I think "now" should mean "this season". What actions can be taken maybe immediately but maybe later this season. That's still pretty near term in the grand scheme of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNubbins Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Tank, wait this season out, in the off-season draft offense and spend our money on actual talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 51 minutes ago, McBean said: Agreed with everything but the Allen part. It’s way to early to judge him with these group of players. What makes you so sure? Feelings man.......feelings.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Start playing all the young players on Offense instead of Clay, Benjamin, Ducasse, et al. Same on D. See if any of them are at least decent backups. No real help is coming from outside this year. ...ad nauseam makes me harken back to my despised days of Dopey Dickie Jauron and his unwavering luvfest for veteran players......."rooks gotta earn their stripes".....how?.....prime example was Anthony A-Trainwreck" Johnson......we were first and goal from the one and he calls "Anthony's" number THREE times.....nothin'.....all the while FredEx was ridin' the pine...... Edited September 30, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Fadingpain said: Continue to bottom out, secure #1 overall pick, and select a guy who can be our franchise QB. Allen isn't the answer. For now, I realize most will disagree with that and the point is certainly debatable. As time goes on, that will change. EDIT: liquidate Shady if we can get a draft pick for him. Trade any other veteran we can get draft picks for as well. Guys like shady will not be contributors here if and when we are good. No point in trading McCoy, not much value...he has been nearly invisible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, McNubbins said: Tank, wait this season out, in the off-season draft offense and spend our money on actual talent. Tank ? Seriously, this team will lose most all of their games without event trying to do so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNubbins Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: Tank ? Seriously, this team will lose most all of their games without event trying to do so. We're off to a good start to my plan then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 31 minutes ago, PIZ said: Sign a vet QB. ...interestingly, that thought does not seem to be on McBeane's radar.......not ONE vet out there (slim pickins') has been brought in for a try out..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phils n Bills Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Draft 3 defensive tackles in this years draft, wait until the late rounds to draft a wide receiver. Sign an offensive linemen or two who couldn’t hack it on another team, then dig into the practice squads of other teams to find starting material. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 hour ago, BuffaloRush said: So many posts hear about the many struggles that the bills have had this season. It’s very easy to point out what the problems are with this team. But the bigger question is how do you fix these problems. so many posts hear about the many struggles that the bills have had this season. It’s very easy to point out what the problems are with this team. But the bigger question is how do you fix these problems? Let’s start with the offense of line. The play for many of the games this year have been offensive. But again how do you fix this problem? Many have suggested taking Connor McDermitt and using him to replace Jordan Matthews. How about removing John Miller and replacing him with Wyatt Teller? But as you saw today when McDermott was there he was absolutely owned off the edge. So how do you fix the offense of line? Bills quite possibly have the worst wide receivers in the NFL. They either are invisible Zay Jones nine factors like Andre Holmes or drop passes when they get a chance to make a play like Kelvin Benjamin. So what’s the solution here? Do you honestly think that Rishard Matthews could give this receiving team a boost? And would you try to draft pick to bring him on the team? What is the solution at wide receiver? Remember I’m looking for solutions for this season. We’re not talking next year. So any suggestions that you have make have to occur over the span of the next few weeks. And any suggestions that you may have to be realistic. It’s not like you can just trade for a Julio Jones. So take a chance and come up with the best plan for the Bills moving forward Everyone wants to whinge but no one has a good, realistic solution. What are the solutions at this point? Are there 2 pro-bowl caliber OLinemen hanging out on the waiver wire or FA market? Are any real receiving threats hanging out on the Waiver Wire or FA market? The answers will come in the offseason other than potentially going max protect on long passing downs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...interestingly, that thought does not seem to be on McBeane's radar.......not ONE vet out there (slim pickins') has been brought in for a try out..... Well, unless you consider Paxton Lynch a vet QB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Just now, Boatdrinks said: Well, unless you consider Paxton Lynch a vet QB... ...do I have to?......... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 CTFO and deal with it until they get clear of the cap crunch and the QB takes his rookie lumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) First we need to figure out whether the current regime knows what it’s doing. If not, then they should not be put in charge of fixing the current mess. In today’s NFL it’s almost impossible to create an offense as inept as the one we’ve got right now. It almost requires acts of intentional sabatoge. Hell, the 49ers just put up 27 points with C.J. Beatherd at the helm. The Browns put up more than 40 points on the road with a rookie QB. And let’s not even talk about what the Chiefs and Texans are doing with the QBs we passed on a year ago. Finally, someone needs to be held accountable for assembling a seive of an o-line and the worst receiving corps in the league—maybe in modern NFL history. I think it would be a stretch to think McDermott and Beane know how to fix it. Edited September 30, 2018 by mannc 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Build the offensive line. Get speed at WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Wait until 2019. That’s what McBeane is doing. Might as well accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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