Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 4 hours ago, NJKBillsfan said: He has more TD's than INT'S. We can't say the same for Allen who only as 7 TD's and 12 INT's. Actually, he has 13 total TD and 11 int. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 9 hours ago, Looper said: He has Larry Fitzgerald - we have Curly, Larry & Moe. Actually, the Bills have Moe, Larry, and ‘fake Shemp’. Look it up, readers, if the reference makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, Looper said: He has Larry Fitzgerald - we have Curly, Larry & Moe. Their offense is terrible. Like, really terrible. Ours is bad too, I know. You do realize that Larry Fitzgerald is running a 4.8-4.9 40 now, right? 8 hours ago, NJKBillsfan said: He has more TD's than INT'S. We can't say the same for Allen who only as 7 TD's and 12 INT's. If the qb runs it, in, it's a td for him. Edited December 24, 2018 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcampbell104 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Their offense is terrible. Like, really terrible. Ours is bad too, I know. You do realize that Larry Fitzgerald is running a 4.8-4.9 40 now, right? where did you get that information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Their offense is terrible. Like, really terrible. Ours is bad too, I know. You do realize that Larry Fitzgerald is running a 4.8-4.9 40 now, right? If the qb runs it, in, it's a td for him. Yeah, but I also realize that Fitz catches everything thrown his way (65 receptions 5 TDs) so his speed isn't an issue. See Kelvin Benjamin ... Edited December 24, 2018 by Looper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) after week week 16: Edited December 26, 2018 by syhuang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 We could do 800 words on each player, but let’s save it for the offseason and settle for essentially expanded tweets on each guy: 2. Josh Rosen: He was better in his first few starts, before Arizona’s already subpar O-line fell apart, its so-so receiving corps regressed (and lost impressive rookie Christian Kirk), and a change was made at offensive coordinator. Yes, replacing OC Mike McCoy with Byron Leftwich will likely be good for Rosen’s big-picture growth, but the system change that comes with it is difficult to implement on the fly. When Rosen is comfortable, his precision accuracy is among the best in the league. That’s enough to make his long-term outlook bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John from Riverside Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 On 12/23/2018 at 6:25 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Oh it's worse. Their OL can't block anyone. They can however run the ball....which really helps a qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Not worried about any of the other QB's. Get Josh something better than the worst supporting cast in the NFL and see how things improve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MILFHUNTER#518 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 minute ago, syhuang said: Lamar Jackson literally cannot throw the football out more than 6-7 yds accurately and Rosen 's QBR is almost 17 pts lower... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: They can however run the ball....which really helps a qb Huh? Johnson is averaging 3.6 ypa and they have the lowest ypa as a team. You are severely underestimating how bad Arizona is. In terms of talent around them, I’d rank them: 1 - baker 2 - jackson 3 - Darnold (their group kinda sucks too) tied for 4 - Allen and Rosen 9 minutes ago, Doc said: Not worried about any of the other QB's. Get Josh something better than the worst supporting cast in the NFL and see how things improve. Quick name SF’s starting receivers this week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 42 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Quick name SF’s starting receivers this week! I know George Kittle and Marquise Goodwin. But their OL and running game is far superior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Doc said: I know George Kittle and Marquise Goodwin. But their OL and running game is far superior. They have 100 more rushing yards than us for the season. http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing goodwin has less than 400 yards, so it’s looking like last year was the completel outliner for his career (would great number 4 though). Point is, even though we pretend, Allen isn’t the only qb in the nfl who isn’t surround by all pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: They have 100 more rushing yards than us for the season. http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing goodwin has less than 400 yards, so it’s looking like last year was the completel outliner for his career (would great number 4 though). Point is, even though we pretend, Allen isn’t the only qb in the nfl who isn’t surround by all pros. I assume when Doc said 'running' game', he didn't mean to include QB rushing yards after QBs escape from pass rush. Comparing Buffalo and SF, Buffalo's quarterbacks have 583 rushing yards where 536 are from Allen while SF's QBs only have 88. If we remove QB rushing yards just for a moment, Buffalo has 341 rushes for 1235 yards, or 3.62 YDS/A. On the other hand, SF has 357 rushes for 1687 yards, or 4.72 YDS/A. Of course there are designed QB runs, but you get the picture. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: They have 100 more rushing yards than us for the season. http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing goodwin has less than 400 yards, so it’s looking like last year was the completel outliner for his career (would great number 4 though). Point is, even though we pretend, Allen isn’t the only qb in the nfl who isn’t surround by all pros. Of course he isn't the only one without an all pro (though Larry Fitzgerald is a former all pro). Allen is, however, the only QB surrounded by the worst group of pass catchers in the modern era. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: They have 100 more rushing yards than us for the season. http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing goodwin has less than 400 yards, so it’s looking like last year was the completel outliner for his career (would great number 4 though). Point is, even though we pretend, Allen isn’t the only qb in the nfl who isn’t surround by all pros. They have similar talent at WR, an all-pro TE, an excellent OL, a very good running game that doesn't need the QB to inflate its numbers, and a top OC. And Mullens is still 3-4 as a starter. Edited December 26, 2018 by Doc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 hour ago, syhuang said: Matches up with how they have looked imo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Of course he isn't the only one without an all pro (though Larry Fitzgerald is a former all pro). Allen is, however, the only QB surrounded by the worst group of pass catchers in the modern era. The front office that drafted Allen, assembled the offense! They traded up for Zay instead of Cooper or JuJuin the 2nd. They traded for Benjamin (former 1,000 yard receiver). Clay and McCoy were also valuable receivers. They picked 2 undersized slot receivers. Maybe they just suck at evaluating offense. So while the receivers were poor, I think people go into hyperbole to defend Allen. It isn’t the worst group in history (come on Bandit, you’re better than that). Our receivers can suck and Allen needs to improve on accuracy. Just like Rosen needs to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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