The NFL Can't Seem to Figure Out Roughing the Passer Calls - No Changes This Season Regarding Body Weight on QBs

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[clayboy54]

Riveron would make a heluva Supreme Court Justice!

[Matt_In_NH]

Just give the QB's red jerseys and be done with it.

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Competition Committee members uncomfortable with some roughing the passer calls

 

The roughing the passer calls that have roiled the NFL this season aren't making the Competition Committee happy either.

 

Several members of the committee, which made the rule a point of emphasis in the spring by pinpointing that they did not want defenders to land with their weight on the quarterback, are uncomfortable with the calls so far, particularly the controversial call against the Packers' Clay Matthews after a hit on Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins, according to a person with knowledge of the committee's thinking. That call negated what would have been a game-sealing interception, essentially costing the Packers a victory in a game that ended in a tie. The league defended the call.

 

The Competition Committee has a regularly-scheduled conference call next week. But members of the committee are unsure if anything will change with the rule emphasis or the way it is being officiated this season. That may depend on what Commissioner Roger Goodell thinks. Complicating the decision: The league could be reluctant to pull back on a rule with its base in player safety.

[TigerJ]

After Sunday's game, Adam Gase blamed the emphasis of roughing the passer calls for the torn ACL a defensive lineman suffered by trying to shift his trajectory in order to avoid a penalty.  I suspect it's going to get worse before it gets better.

[Lurker]

Last night was terrible as well.   Every time a QB got sacked, I was looking for the yellow flag.   And about half the time, there it was even though it was a typical football hit.

 

That can't be what the competition committee intended, so there has to be some in-season adjustment or the game as we know it will take another hit (as will ratings)...

[Coach Tuesday]

4 minutes ago, Lurker said:

Last night was terrible as well.   Every time a QB got sacked, I was looking for the yellow flag.   And about half the time, there it was even though it was a typical football hit.

 

That can't be what the competition committee intended, so there has to be some in-season adjustment or the game as we know it will take another hit (as will ratings)...

 

Last night was terrible because there was a flag on almost every single play - the games are becoming unwatchable, but the tone-deaf league refuses to adjust.

[Boatdrinks]

The league will quietly see to it that the calls are made with more common sense going forward, a la the “ catch rule” in last years playoffs and Super Bowl. Watch the sound fx version of SB with Steratore mic’d up and it’s obvious this was happening. Then they changed the rule to suit this new interpretation after the fact. They’ll change it; just won’t admit they were wrong. 

[Clyde Smith]

2 hours ago, Lurker said:

Last night was terrible as well.   Every time a QB got sacked, I was looking for the yellow flag.   And about half the time, there it was even though it was a typical football hit.

 

That can't be what the competition committee intended, so there has to be some in-season adjustment or the game as we know it will take another hit (as will ratings)...

I witnessed one flag last night when one of the Bucs defenders tapped Ben on his helmet and was flagged! These rules change are out of hand.

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Agreed.

[CommonCents]

2 minutes ago, Clyde Smith said:

I witnessed one flag last night when one of the Bucs defenders tapped Ben on his helmet and was flagged! These rules change are out of hand.

And IIRC Big Ben went full World Cup mode and played up the impact of the hand that grazed his helmet. Gross.

[pkwwjd]

On the other hand (and other rule), there were several non-calls on "lowering the helmet" that could/should have been called last night (mainly on the Steelers). If there was a place to eject someone ... LB Bostic could/should have been for his helmet hit on Fitz when Fitz slid early on. He was flagged for a late hit, but IIRC there was no mention of lowering the helmet. Late hit + helmet targetting head should equal ejection. Pittsburgh doesn't win last night without the plays that Bostic made later on.

 

NFL can't figure out a lot of its new rules.

[dezertbill]

Competition Committee Uncomfortable with Roughing Calls.  Meeting set for next week to discuss.

[Clyde Smith]

1 hour ago, Commonsense said:

And IIRC Big Ben went full World Cup mode and played up the impact of the hand that grazed his helmet. Gross.

Very gross! Changes need to be made, fans are tired seeing flags every time a player gets a love tap.

[Doc Brown]

14 hours ago, dezertbill said:

Pereira goes on to say a majority of the competition committee (6 our of 8 ) feel that the Matthews hit WAS NOT an infraction.

The other two suffer from CTE.

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[mannc]

The problem is not the new rules; the problem is the refs blowing calls.  The Matthews sack, like the 3d White unnecessary roughness penalty, were just flat-out awful calls.  Both hits were entirely legal under the current rules.

[Jukester]

3 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

Last night was terrible because there was a flag on almost every single play - the games are becoming unwatchable, but the tone-deaf league refuses to adjust.

 

And then it’s not consistent at all. In the same  game a Tampa receiver (#12 i think it was) fumbles the ball when the defender hit the ball directly with the helmet, which is fine in itself. But replays clearly showed the defender led with his helmet, made contact with the receivers helmet/face mask first then the ball.  No call - Pittsburgh ball. Contrast this with the ridiculous call on Tre White for deenseless receiver on a sure clean tackle. The NFL rules committee are a bunch of morons. 

2 minutes ago, mannc said:

The problem is not the new rules; the problem is the refs blowing calls.  The Matthews sack, like the 3d White unnecessary roughness penalty, were just flat-out awful calls.  Both hits were entirely legal under the current rules.

 

It’s a combination of both.