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  On 9/17/2018 at 5:02 PM, RochesterRob said:

Let's not worry about what others have to say especially when they have no emotional bond to WNY.

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Well that makes no sense. Don't you know there are pitchforks at the ready! We must totally gut this team again! That's the only way to build a winner! Keep gutting everything after one year when something happens we don't like! 

 

[/sarcasm]

 

Translation: some people just love to piss on the team no matter what.

 

  On 9/17/2018 at 5:14 PM, Billzgobowlin said:

Hard working players like Kyle Williams and Lorax?  How about good signings like Poyer and Hyde or former player under McDerm like Star?

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Please stop with the common sense. We have people to piss on and your reasonable takes are holding up the party!!!

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  On 9/17/2018 at 6:42 PM, wppete said:

Yeah don't trust what McBean has to say. All this process talk is meaningless. Just win some games, we are not looking for role models we want WINS!

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I don't care about wins at this point.

I question the "process" after the Star signing, no o_line upgrades, V. Davis quitting on his teammates, no back up OR veteran mentor for a ROOKIE, starting NP (both times),  no viable WR at all, and watching players who performed great last year look horrible this year.

 

I for one am not at all confident that Mc Clappy can right this ship.

 

 

 

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  On 9/17/2018 at 4:55 PM, berg1029 said:

I know that Vontae released that statement saying that his retiring had nothing to do with the Bill's players or coaching staff, but the optics of this are really bad.  When you combine two bad losses with this.. things could get ugly.

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This is my latest concern.  If this keeps up, players are going to get pissed and start dividing the locker room etc.  It could get to a point like that season when Aaron Schoebel retired because it was such a tire fire.  Then next year we'll have to run off all the guys that didn't "buy in" this year creating even more holes.

 

What ever happened to win AND rebuild?

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  On 9/17/2018 at 6:57 PM, reddogblitz said:

This is my latest concern.  If this keeps up, players are going to get pissed and start dividing the locker room etc.  It could get to a point like that season when Aaron Schoebel retired because it was such a tire fire.  Then next year we'll have to run off all the guys that didn't "buy in" this year creating even more holes.

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You're just starting rumors out of one, unknown incident.   Stop that.  Stop that!

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  On 9/17/2018 at 6:40 PM, JTown said:

 

How dare you question "the process"  you just have to have "patience"  stop trying to think for yourself and let everyone at TBD do the thinking for you.

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You do understand that people have different opinions, correct?  Maybe if you type the keyboard harder, it will get your point across better.

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  On 9/17/2018 at 6:40 PM, JTown said:

 

How dare you question "the process"  you just have to have "patience"  stop trying to think for yourself and let everyone at TBD do the thinking for you.

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Aw, you're using my patience line. I'm touched. 

Posted
  On 9/17/2018 at 6:45 PM, joesixpack said:

 

Spooky. Fictitious meeting notes with unnamed bills execs incoming.

 

Too bad you'll be on purge, was really looking forward to the upcoming chapters of the conspiracy.

 

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Theres some weird stuff happening in this thread also...members masquerade. 

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Vontae Davis has looked incapable of performing at an NFL level for well over a year now.  He got burned early yesterday after being inactive week 1.  He should have retired before September but at least he realized what many of us already saw.  His time was up.

 

If the team was performing better maybe Davis stays on the rest of the year as healthy scratch or comes off the bench here and there.  His decision has nothing to do with the team and coaching staff.

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  On 9/17/2018 at 7:13 PM, Jauronimo said:

Vontae Davis has looked incapable of performing at an NFL level for well over a year now.  He got burned early yesterday after being inactive week 1.  He should have retired before September but at least he realized what many of us already saw.  His time was up.

 

If the team was performing better maybe Davis stays on the rest of the year as healthy scratch or comes off the bench here and there.  His decision has nothing to do with the team and coaching staff.

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Reasonable take.

 

Posted (edited)
  On 9/17/2018 at 7:13 PM, Jauronimo said:

Vontae Davis has looked incapable of performing at an NFL level for well over a year now.  He got burned early yesterday after being inactive week 1.  He should have retired before September but at least he realized what many of us already saw.  His time was up.

 

If the team was performing better maybe Davis stays on the rest of the year as healthy scratch or comes off the bench here and there.  His decision has nothing to do with the team and coaching staff.

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Vontae had a good first half, yesterday. 

 

He forced a fumble that should’ve been bills ball. Potentially changing the course of the game. Refs made the wrong call. 

 

This is a sign of a major problem.

 

A vet, who has a long respected career just doesn’t quit in the middle of the game, without significant reason. 

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  On 9/17/2018 at 7:19 PM, COTC said:

Vontae had a good first half, yesterday. 

 

He forced a fumble that should’ve been bills ball. Potentially changing the course of the game. Refs made the wrong call. 

 

This is a sign of a major problem.

 

A vet, who has a long respected career just doesn’t quit in the middle of the game, without significant reason. 

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He made one play. One. And didn’t even recover the fumble. No, he didn’t have a good first half. That’s why he went through with the retirement. He even admitted he couldn’t play anymore.

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  On 9/17/2018 at 7:23 PM, YoloinOhio said:

He made one play. One. And didn’t even recover the fumble. No, he didn’t have a good first half. That’s why he went through with the retirement. He even admitted he couldn’t play anymore.

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Oh come on yolo, He played decent and played much better than Gaines. 

 

That force fumble hit was nice. 

 

Vontae is being PC in his excuse. 

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  On 9/17/2018 at 7:23 PM, YoloinOhio said:

He made one play. One. And didn’t even recover the fumble. No, he didn’t have a good first half. That’s why he went through with the retirement. He even admitted he couldn’t play anymore.

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He wasn't credited with a forced fumble.  I've been pretty drunk for a couple of days so I could be forgetting all sorts of stuff, but I recall Vontae getting burnt in coverage again early and then doing next to nothing until he ended his career.

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Posted (edited)
  On 9/17/2018 at 7:13 PM, Jauronimo said:

Vontae Davis has looked incapable of performing at an NFL level for well over a year now.  He got burned early yesterday after being inactive week 1.  He should have retired before September but at least he realized what many of us already saw.  His time was up.

 

If the team was performing better maybe Davis stays on the rest of the year as healthy scratch or comes off the bench here and there.  His decision has nothing to do with the team and coaching staff.

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Ok then. Why was he signed?????

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  On 9/17/2018 at 7:28 PM, Jauronimo said:

He wasn't credited with a forced fumble.  I've been pretty drunk for a couple of days so I could be forgetting all sorts of stuff, but I recall Vontae getting burnt in coverage again early and then doing next to nothing until he ended his career.

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I think that's Edmunds...

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  On 9/17/2018 at 7:23 PM, YoloinOhio said:

He made one play. One. And didn’t even recover the fumble. No, he didn’t have a good first half. That’s why he went through with the retirement. He even admitted he couldn’t play anymore.

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Than what the heck was he doing on the roster? In the name of process and a throw away year, why wasn't a younger greener CB on the roster instead of Davis?

Coach had to know he wasn't any good anymore, if he didn't he sucks as a coach. 

Everything about this process or Davis walking out or Brown going off or........ whatever, is a freaking **** show. I have to believe TPegs isn't very happy right now.

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