White Linen Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: What about his history over the past five years gives you THAT impression? Just listening to him talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 minute ago, joesixpack said: Well, that and he lacks any semblance of character, amirite? Maybe he can find some drugs to wake up our oline, since they looked asleep last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDiehard Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Gordon is a vested vet and is not subject to waivers. So if he is cut, he is a free agent and can sign where he wants, for what he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Him and ScottLaw: "iTs cUz He iSnT cHrIsTiAn" Hey don't forget me! You quivering lipped mooks need someone to blame for 47-3.? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, White Linen said: Just listening to him talk. Talk is cheap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, joesixpack said: What about his history over the past five years gives you THAT impression? I read a lot about him and I think that way too. I used to think he must just be an idiot until I took a deep dive. He's a really interesting guy and not at all just a jerk or worthless addict. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Talk is cheap. True but I get that - I want to help him feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: I read a lot about him and I think that way too. I used to think he must just be an idiot until I took a deep dive. He's a really interesting guy and not at all just a jerk or worthless addict. Well, apparently the browns disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: Well, apparently the browns disagree. C'mon man, you asked why and we answered you. I've been rooting for this young man to succeed for several years because I like him. Now with an opportunity for him to join the Bills my answer is yes. I think McD could be really good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: Well, apparently the browns disagree. No, they kept him all this time and gave him 100 second chances partly because he was so good and equally because they knew he was not an ass. Dorsey is new. Probably said I have a zero tolerance policy and he did something. We don't know what it was yet. It's possible it was very dumb but not certain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 We should totally trade with the Browns again to get anotherof their useless WR. Then we should cut Gordon after 1 week. Gordon is trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I read a lot about him and I think that way too. I used to think he must just be an idiot until I took a deep dive. He's a really interesting guy and not at all just a jerk or worthless addict. He can be a really interesting guy and not a jerk, but if he can’t control his addiction and be all in and all there for his team, he isn’t very valuable as a football player I’m sure it’s not the same folks, but I’m amused that people complain about Watkins (always hurt) and Clay (disappears except against Miami) and Benjamin (appears occasionally when he feels energized or something) but want to bring in a guy who hasn’t been there for his team except sporadically. How would that differ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: No, they kept him all this time and gave him 100 second chances partly because he was so good and equally because they knew he was not an ass. Dorsey is new. Probably said I have a zero tolerance policy and he did something. We don't know what it was yet. It's possible it was very dumb but not certain. And net-net...what did he do with those 100 second chances? That's the bottom line here. It's not whether or not he's likeable, or smart, or interesting, or even talented. It's whether or not he can be relied upon to even show up. Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: He can be a really interesting guy and not a jerk, but if he can’t control his addiction and be all in and all there for his team, he isn’t very valuable as a football player I’m sure it’s not the same folks, but I’m amused that people complain about Watkins (always hurt) and Clay (disappears except against Miami) and Benjamin (appears occasionally when he feels energized or something) but want to bring in a guy who hasn’t been there for his team except sporadically. How would that differ? YES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 16 minutes ago, White Linen said: What? Of course you do - then you're the team that gets him. If you trade for him before he’s released, yes, but if he’s released, he’s a FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: If you trade for him before he’s released, yes, but if he’s released, he’s a FA Correct. That's why you trade for a player before he's released. You said you don't trade for a player who's about to be released. In the scenario where you want the player you do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I read a lot about him and I think that way too. I used to think he must just be an idiot until I took a deep dive. He's a really interesting guy and not at all just a jerk or worthless addict. Being an interesting guy is great and all, but if a team cant trust or depend on you to play on a week to week basis, then youre worthless at the NFL level. Its no different than the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: He can be a really interesting guy and not a jerk, but if he can’t control his addiction and be all in and all there for his team, he isn’t very valuable as a football player I’m sure it’s not the same folks, but I’m amused that people complain about Watkins (always hurt) and Clay (disappears except against Miami) and Benjamin (appears occasionally when he feels energized or something) but want to bring in a guy who hasn’t been there for his team except sporadically. How would that differ? I didn't complain about Watkins or Clay and only mildly about KB. I want star players. I don't mind taking flyers or minor risks which this would be. Edited September 16, 2018 by Kelly the Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 minute ago, bobobonators said: Being an interesting guy is great and all, but if a team cant trust or depend on you to play on a week to week basis, then youre worthless at the NFL level. Its no different than the real world. Of course and you are correct. The question with Gordon is the what if. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: He can be a really interesting guy and not a jerk, but if he can’t control his addiction and be all in and all there for his team, he isn’t very valuable as a football player I’m sure it’s not the same folks, but I’m amused that people complain about Watkins (always hurt) and Clay (disappears except against Miami) and Benjamin (appears occasionally when he feels energized or something) but want to bring in a guy who hasn’t been there for his team except sporadically. How would that differ? It makes zero sense to compare the massive investments made in Watkins and Clay to the Gordon situation. If Beane is trading a pair of firsts for him or offering 10 million per year, then we should definitely have this discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 minute ago, bobobonators said: Being an interesting guy is great and all, but if a team cant trust or depend on you to play on a week to week basis, then youre worthless at the NFL level. Its no different than the real world. Nathan Peterman and his squeaky clean attitude is worthless at the NFL level too. That's why they can just be on a zero tolerance policy with him. He's not going to ruin the team or locker room. If the one out of ten or twenty possibilities hits, we win the lotto. I wouldn't bet on Josh Gordon. But the Bills are a better bet to win with Josh Gordon than without him because our WR are the very worst in the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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