Trump Wants To Regulate Google

[Doc Brown]

3 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

..marry his ex and make even MORE.......

Not a bad idea.  Just looked her up and she's not bad looking with her 35.6 billion dollar settlement.  I love my wife but a teacher's salary won't get me that private jet.

[Gene Frenkle]

It's amazing how quickly conservatives turn from free market to regulation when it suits their interests.

 

[GG]

1 hour ago, Gene Frenkle said:

It's amazing how quickly conservatives turn from free market to regulation when it suits their interests.

 

It's amazing how liberals don't understand what free market means.  

[Hedge]

Jack crawls back into the ring.

 

 

What got censored:

 

 

Per Twitter:

 

 

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Edited May 29, 2020 by Hedge

[Tiberius]

So what does Trump’s silly executive order do? It’s just there to excite his base? Did they feel it move watching him bluster and act boss? 

 

Probably 

[Deranged Rhino]

https://mobile.twitter.com/AZachParkinson/status/1266187699603623938

[Buffalo_Gal]

1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

December was so six months ago...

 

[Gene Frenkle]

When the looting starts, the shooting starts?

 

Now there's a presidentially responsible response...

[Buffalo_Gal]

9 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said:

When the looting starts, the shooting starts?

 

Now there's a presidentially responsible response...

Ever heard of a Mayor? A Governor? Who do you think should have tear gassed the ***** out of those looters? The President!?!?

Now, Trump may have to step in, but that lovely little 38-year-old Mayor should have put on his big-boy panties and gotten this under control asap (cops abandoning a police station... AYFKM!?). When he didn't Tim Walz should have had the national guard and state police out yesterday. You do not pacify the mob, that never ends well for those being er, mobbed.

Long hot summer of '68, anyone? I hope not, but if Soros is gonna pay for civil unrest, it would not shock me.  The Mayor and Governor responses will be interesting, to say the least.

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

 

And no, that is not to "compare" the two on level of "violence," that is to point out how selective Twitter is in enforcement of their "policies"

Twitter does not want any part of this:
 

 

Edited May 29, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal

[Prickly Pete]

There are countless examples of Twitter posts calling for violence. 

1 hour ago, Gene Frenkle said:

When the looting starts, the shooting starts?

 

Now there's a presidentially responsible response...

 

You're gonna lose, Gene.

[Buffalo_Gal]

Exclusive: Cruz calls for criminal investigation of Twitter
 

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), in a letter Friday to the Justice and Treasury departments, is calling for a criminal investigation of Twitter over allegations the company is violating U.S. sanctions against Iran.
 

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The letter
 

Attorney General Barr and Secretary Mnuchin,
 

I write to urge you to open an investigation into Twitter, Inc. (Twitter) for possible criminal violations of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) (50 U.S.C. §§ 1701 et seq.) and sanctionable activities prohibited by Executive Order 13876(E.O. 13876).    
 

On February 6, 2020, Isent a letter (see attached) to Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey informing him that Twitter and its principals face criminal liability and sanctions exposure for providing social media accounts to Iranian persons designated as Specially Designated Nationals (SDNs) by the Department of the Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) pursuant to E.O. 13876. You were copied on that letter, as were President Trump and the U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of California Anderson.
 

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[Magox]

The more I think of this EO, the more I dislike it.  It's a Pandora's box and ultimately would lead to a worse platform.   Jack really screwed the pooch with this and I don't see how he gets out of this.  He should make an about face but the left would crucify him.   

 

The pressure certainly is on though because he is considering other solutions

 

 

 

Hmmm, maybe that could work in regards to the content that is fact checked.  MAYBE.

 

But that still doesn't solve the issue of what gets fact checked.   That's how the media's bias used to operate before the age of "resistance journalism".  Where reporters would pretend to be objective but the way they showed their bias was the stories they decided to cover.

 

Same thing here, there would have to be some sort of even proportionality to what is fact checked.  Because if left to their own devices they will fact check righties at least 75/25 to leftists.

[Buffalo_Gal]

 

[Doc]

Repeal it.

[Gene Frenkle]

6 minutes ago, Doc said:

Repeal it.

 

Possibly. This would have a big impact on how we use the web and our ability to innovate, however. Careful what you wish for. 

[Taro T]

15 minutes ago, Doc said:

Repeal it.

 

Disagree.  If you repeal it you give the Net Neutrality acolytes the cause they need to eventually succeed.

 

Clarify the distinctions on what sort of editorial activities distinguish a platform from a publisher & then let those entities decide which side of the line they want to operate.  They'll walk back to essentially where they were back in '16 or they'll get sued into oblivion.  They're choice but the internet then remains open.

[Buffalo_Gal]

25 minutes ago, Doc said:

Repeal it.

I do not want them to repeal it. I simply want to the companies using it to honor the law.

 

[GG]

25 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

I do not want them to repeal it. I simply want to the companies using it to honor the law.

 

 

That's the rub, the law as currently written is outdated and doesn't really apply.

[Buffalo_Gal]

1 minute ago, GG said:

 

That's the rub, the law as currently written is outdated and doesn't really apply.

I can understand this argument. But is it "outdated" because the socials are not obeying it? (In which case... obey the damn law) Or it is outdated because it no longer makes sense?

 

[GG]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

I can understand this argument. But is it "outdated" because the socials are not obeying it? (In which case... obey the damn law) Or it is outdated because it no longer makes sense?

 

 

It is outdated because it was written to mainly address protections for kids accessing porn & other objectionable material - hence the Communications Decency Act.  It was also written before social media companies became the dominant global platforms that reside in the netherworld that didn't exist in '95, that is between an ISP (AT&T, Comcast, VZ) and an online information provider (AOL, Prodigy, etc) 

[Koko78]

Twitter - and that douchebag Jack - is going to regret poking the bear. They're probably going to bring YouTube, Google, and FaceBook along for the ride.

 

The short-sighted morons are going to deserve what they get.

[B-Man]

 

NOW ITS INSTAGRAM CENSORING A CONSERVATIVE ELECTED OFFICIAL: 

 

Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) and her daughter had a children’s book being promoted on Instagram.

 

Not now.

 

Instagram claims the book could influence elections.

 

Yes, that’s really what Instagram said

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

NEUTRAL PLATFORM: 

Twitter changes official bio to #BlackLivesMatter, logo to black in solidarity with protesters.

 

 

 

 

 

 

As you know, on Tuesday Twitter decided to add a link reading “Get the facts about mail-in ballots” to two of President Trump’s tweets in which he argued that mail-in ballots are ripe for fraud. The Wall Street Journal, however, did a fact-check of Twitter’s fact-check and found it contained some misinformation of its own.

At issue, and the distinction is important, is that some states mail everyone an application to vote by mail, while other states send everyone a ballot itself. Twitter seems to have conflated the two.  (This happens constantly here on PPP)

 

 

 

The Wall Street Journal reports:

Twitter’s fact check of Mr. Trump’s tweet appeared to contain its own misleading statement, however, stating that “mail-in ballots are already used in some states, including Oregon, Utah and Nebraska.” That statement appears to conflate automatic all-mail voting with absentee ballots in regards to at least one state.

 

While all states allow absentee voting via the mail, only a handful of states including Oregon and Utah automatically send registered voters mail-in ballots. Nebraska, in contrast, recently mailed applications to every voter—in response to the pandemic, and the state didn’t automatically send ballots.

 

The mistake raised questions about Twitter’s ability to serve as an independent service to fact check statements by Mr. Trump or other political figures on its service. Late Tuesday, Twitter updated its language to remove reference to Nebraska and instead stated that “five states already vote entirely by mail and all states offer some form of mail-in absentee voting.”

 

We’d already had questions about Twitter’s ability to serve as an independent fact-checker, so this didn’t help.

 

Yeah. It was a mistake for Twitter to get in the fact-checking game. We all knew that ahead of time.

 

Twitter is like the parent that wants to umpire their kid's baseball game so the "right" team will win. Intrusions and decisions will reliably and overwhelmingly go in one direction - the right one (which ironically will be left).

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

Twitter Censors, Suspends Conservative Benny Johnson for Anti-Antifa Posts

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 Antifa’s Call to Violence Gets Free Rein on Twitter While Trump is Censored.

 

 

 

 

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

 

[Joe Miner]

13 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

 

But Twitter definitely isn't a publisher...?

[Deranged Rhino]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Jordan_Sather_/status/1269017969444581376

[Buffalo_Gal]

Behind China’s Twitter Campaign, a Murky Supporting Chorus
 

Swarms of accounts are amplifying Beijing’s brash new messaging as the country tries to shape the global narrative about the coronavirus and much else.
 

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Of the roughly 4,600 accounts that reposted China’s leading envoys and state-run news outlets during a recent week, many acted suspiciously, The Times found. One in six tweeted with extremely high frequency despite having few followers, as if they were being used as loudspeakers, not as sharing platforms.
 

Nearly one in seven tweeted almost nothing of their own, instead filling their feeds with reposts of the official Chinese accounts and others.
 

In all, one third of the accounts had been created in the last three months, as the war of words with the Trump administration heated up. One in seven had zero followers.
 

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Much is unknown about China’s covert influence activities in particular. Twitter last year suspended more than 200,000 accounts that it called a Chinese state-backed operation aimed at discrediting Hong Kong’s protesters, though it said little about how it came to that conclusion.
 

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Still, The Times’s findings add to other recent evidence suggesting that Twitter is being manipulated to amplify pro-Beijing messages. Next Dim, a data firm in Israel, discovered two mundane-looking tweets praising China’s coronavirus response that were liked and reposted hundreds of thousands of times in March, possibly with the help of strategically placed influencer accounts.
 

The U.S. State Department found inauthentic-seeming accounts that in April cited a Cambridge University study to raise doubts that the coronavirus originated in China. The most active of these accounts referred to the study in scores of tweets, even though the study’s lead author dismissed that interpretation of its findings.

Neither Next Dim’s findings nor the State Department’s have been previously reported.
 

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[B-Man]

 

 

FUNNY HOW THOSE ERRORS ARE ALWAYS AIMED AT ONE SIDE OF THE AISLE: 

 

 

Twitter Reinstates Zerohedge After Admitting It Made An “Error.”

 

 

 

 

 

[Hedge]

Shoehorning this into this thread.

 

 

 

 

From the NBC article:

 

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Six former members of eBay's global security team have been charged by the FBI and federal prosecutors in Boston with cyberstalking as part of an effort to "stifle" the publishers of an online newsletter about the online auction company.

Prosecutors say the plan was two-fold. First, the eBay members allegedly harassed the couple with online deliveries at all times of the day and night, sent threatening messages, and intimidated the couple who published the newsletter. Then, the eBay team would contact the couple so they could proclaim that eBay noticed the harassment and offered to help the couple get out of the threatening environment eBay itself created.

 

Prosecutors call this the “White Knight Strategy.”

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The employees allegedly involved in the scheme are James Baugh, eBay’s former senior director of safety and security, Stephanie Popp, eBay’s senior manager of global intelligence, Stephanie Stockwell, an intelligence analyst, Veronica Zea, who worked for eBay as a contractor, Brian Gilbert, senior manager of special operations for eBay’s Global Security Team, and David Harville, eBay’s former director of global resiliency.

 

From the CBS article:

 

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U.S. Attorney Andrew Lelling said the eBay employees’ harassment included sending the couple “disturbing deliveries” that included a bloody pig mask, a box of live cockroaches, and a funeral wreath. The employees also allegedly sent anonymous threatening messages and traveled to Massachusetts to conduct “covert surveillance” of the victims.

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The couple then received a host of deliveries aimed at intimidating them.

“These deliveries included fly larvae and live spiders, a box of live cockroaches, a sympathy wreath on the occasion of the death of a loved one, a book of advice on how to survive the death of a spouse, pornography mailed to their next door neighbors but in the couple’s names, Halloween masks featuring the face of the bloody pig, and the pig fetus which was ordered, but after an inquiry by the supplier, thankfully, wasn’t ever sent,” Lelling said.

On August 18 just after midnight, the eBay employees allegedly posted a classified ad on Craigslist claiming to be from the Natick couple inviting “singles, couples and swingers” to their house to party after 10 p.m. every night.

 

[B-Man]

 

 

THAT ZUCKS:

 

 Facebook censors, threatens Disrn for sharing W.H.O. official’s exact words.

 

 

Apparently Facebook’s new commitment to open debate didn’t last as long as was hoped.

 

 

 

 

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

Twitter Hires Ex-FBI Lawyer Who Played Key Role In Probe Of Trump Campaign
 

* Twitter has hired former FBI general counsel James Baker, the firm announced Monday.
*  Baker was the FBI’s top lawyer during Crossfire Hurricane, the investigation into the Trump campaign.
* In that role, Baker supported the decision to obtain surveillance warrants against Carter Page. A Justice Department watchdog has found that the FBI improperly relied on the Steele dossier in order to obtain those warrants.
 

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[Magox]

Wow!

 

This is out of hand.  They need to be brought in in front of Congress right now.

 

 

[GG]

1 minute ago, Magox said:

Wow!

 

This is out of hand.  They need to be brought in in front of Congress right now.

 

 

 

Are they run by the black sheep of the Carnegie clan in how to alienate friends and beg for a heavy-handed regulatory response?

[Deranged Rhino]

4 minutes ago, Magox said:

Wow!

 

This is out of hand.  They need to be brought in in front of Congress right now.

 

 

 

[Magox]

4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

I find this all to be both infuriating and depressing.

 

Things have changed over the past few weeks.   

[Deranged Rhino]

13 minutes ago, Magox said:

 

I find this all to be both infuriating and depressing.

 

Things have changed over the past few weeks.   

 

On a poetic note: Apocalypse didn't originally mean destruction in the sense most assume. In it's most original meaning, it means a revelation on a mass scale. An awakening. 

 

Welcome.