Kelly the Dog Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I just watched the game again. Peterman was pretty awful. His first two series were brutal. He threw two good passes the entire half. And made a bunch of bad plays. The TD Steven Hauchska could have easily thrown. The first pass was a dropped pick six. He threw a dumb three yard completion on third and six when he had time. He threw a dumb pass when he was across the line going OB. He avoided the rush a couple times and still got sacked or tackled for short gain on both of them. He threw one nice sideline ball to Proehl but it was a 9 yard pass and he threw one nice pass that was a great catch by O'Leary we don't even know if it was a good pass (if he tried to throw it opposite shoulder and short on purpose it was very nice but it could also have just been a bad pass). He just wasnt good at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericcomposer72 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I think they might start Peterman for the same reason they started him last year- to see what he's got (in this case, to see if what he's got is better than last season). There's no risk to letting Allen sit at the beginning of the season. As people said, there's a chance they both may play equally poorly against a top NFL defense, for different reasons. Honestly, I think if Peterman starts, he'll look exactly like he did when he started last season. People are saying "everyone has a bad game." But that's different when you have a respectable body of regular-season work. (Peterman looked good last preseason, too.) It may be the same situation as Peterman's start last year, but instead of Tyrod coming in for the 2nd half, it will be Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Peterman is our career back up to Allen for the next 5 years. No business starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I don't think many are arguing that Peterman is the long term answer. My argument to start Peterman (now that McCarron is hurt) is: 1. Allen has impressed in limited appearances, but would benefit from more time learning 2. The OL is a weakness and is liable to get whomever plays QB injured 3. Allen has worked hard to improve his footwork to help with accuracy, but if he plays behind a weak OL facing a lot of pass rush, he is likely to regress in that footwork 4. The receiving group is a definite weakness that combined with the OL problems will make life very difficult for whomever plays QB this season. Even if Allen's superior athletic traits seem to give the team a better chance today, I'd resist the temptation to hurry him into the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in Syracuse Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Peterman starts preseason game 3 and gets 4 to 5 possessions with the ones. Allen comes in and gets at least 3 possessions with the ones and plays the whole second half. If Peterman looks good he is your game 1 starter. If he looks bad and Josh looks good, Josh starts game one. If they both look bad start with Peterman for 4 games. If they are 0-4 welcome to the Josh Allen era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Process Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Boca BIlls said: Peterman is a backup, nothing more What about his catalogue..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 With Mcarron out Allen is the obvious choice. Peterman is going throw ugly picks. Allen might as well but he will also get you chunk plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 2 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: So shouldn't that be the guy with the most yards per attempt, completion percentage and touchdowns? Starting Allen ahead of Peterman at THIS point is giving him a handout. Make him earn the job by playing better. Against the exact same players Peterman is 85% and Allen is 56%. Peterman torched 1's, and Allen did pretty well too, but not as well. Peterman then destroyed the 3's and Allen struggled. It's public record - Peterman is 85% through the pre-season. Last season is in the past. Nate was also a 61% college passer,s o not sure where you get 50% from I get 50% from his stat sheet. He plays in THE NFL, not college. He did not torch anyone, he had ONE good drive agains a vanilla D with no game plan on the first series of the preseason. Then he turned the ball over very next drive. Then his first pass should have been a pick six yesterday but it was droppped. And his TD yesterday was actually a bad pass that almost cost them the TD. Nick could have crawled to the endzone had the ball been a good throw, but NP and his weak throw was slow and behind to the point Nick had to wait for the ball letting the defender that had been more than 10 yards away close and try and make a tackle. Nick BROKE the tackle to save the TD. Did he make a few nice throws, sure, but he doesn’t do them regularly nor can he make all the throws. But keep hanging your hat on one drive and a busted coverage play that was actually a bad pass that he got lucky Nick made a play to still get there score. 1 hour ago, Kelly the Dog said: I just watched the game again. Peterman was pretty awful. His first two series were brutal. He threw two good passes the entire half. And made a bunch of bad plays. The TD Steven Hauchska could have easily thrown. The first pass was a dropped pick six. He threw a dumb three yard completion on third and six when he had time. He threw a dumb pass when he was across the line going OB. He avoided the rush a couple times and still got sacked or tackled for short gain on both of them. He threw one nice sideline ball to Proehl but it was a 9 yard pass and he threw one nice pass that was a great catch by O'Leary we don't even know if it was a good pass (if he tried to throw it opposite shoulder and short on purpose it was very nice but it could also have just been a bad pass). He just wasnt good at all. Thankfully someone else actually WATCHED the game and not some stat box that didn’t remotely tell the story. Please start Allen next week and see if he can seal the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) 50 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: I don't think many are arguing that Peterman is the long term answer. My argument to start Peterman (now that McCarron is hurt) is: 1. Allen has impressed in limited appearances, but would benefit from more time learning 2. The OL is a weakness and is liable to get whomever plays QB injured 3. Allen has worked hard to improve his footwork to help with accuracy, but if he plays behind a weak OL facing a lot of pass rush, he is likely to regress in that footwork 4. The receiving group is a definite weakness that combined with the OL problems will make life very difficult for whomever plays QB this season. Even if Allen's superior athletic traits seem to give the team a better chance today, I'd resist the temptation to hurry him into the lineup. I need Peterman to get his s$&t together and be capable of being the starter for at least the start of the season, A big component of Allen looking so good now is because he could watch and learn and screw up gradually throughout the off season. The regular season HAS TO be planned out the same way for Josh. It’s s critical time now and the Bills have to find a way to not f this up over AJ’s injury Edited August 18, 2018 by bobblehead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 The difference is, with Allen the Bills can score a TD on any given play from anywhere on the field. Same thing with Peterman, except it's the defense that has a chance to score on any given play from anywhere on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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reddogblitz Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Mat68 said: With Mcarron out Allen is the obvious choice. Peterman is going throw ugly picks. Allen might as well but he will also get you chunk plays. We are now officially in the same position with Allen that we were with EJ. No bidness starting, but what else we got? Also I find it odd that Nasty Nate gets more penalties called on him than any other QB I've ever seen. Edited August 18, 2018 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: We are now officially in the same position with Allen that we were with EJ. No bidness starting, but what else we got? Also I find it odd that Nasty Nate gets more penalties called on him than any other QB I've ever seen. I think Allen passed McCarron last night. The injury or no injury. Allen looks like a starting Qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 The Peterman Can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mat68 said: I think Allen passed McCarron last night. The injury or no injury. Allen looks like a starting Qb. I'm starting to think Allen is the best now too. However I really don't want him to start right out of the chute. But I don't trust Nasty Nate in a real game. Edited August 19, 2018 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 5 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said: Allen has impressed in limited appearances, but would benefit from more time learning He'll learn much faster if he's playing. He appears to have a knack for both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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