Sky Diver Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Fine. So that dumb idea means you certainly wouldn't accept Brady as your QB. Or Aaron Rodgers. Or actually any other QB ever in the history of organized football. Find me a QB who hasn't spent 10 - 20 hours off of football in the offseason and then get back to me. There is no such person, nor has there ever been. Again, as I pointed out, Brady has his dumb business and his family. Rodgers has his GF and plays guitar and golfs seriously. There is absolutely nothing to see here, except your apparent Rosen hate. What’s dumb is thinking that he can fix the NCAA. Who knows how much time he wasted that could have been used in more worthwhile pursuits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 On 7/18/2018 at 1:23 PM, BillsVet said: Symbolism over substance. Had a guy at work years ago talk about how, "sweat doesn't count...results do." Still, I wish Allen the best and hope he becomes the guy. “Don’t mistake activity for achievement.” John Wooden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, vincec said: “Don’t mistake activity for achievement.” John Wooden “Don’t expect great achievements if you haven’t made any effort.” Sky Diver Edited July 20, 2018 by Sky Diver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Pimpin' Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Fine. So that dumb idea means you certainly wouldn't accept Brady as your QB. Or Aaron Rodgers. Or actually any other QB ever in the history of organized football. Find me a QB who hasn't spent 10 - 20 hours off of football in the offseason and then get back to me. There is no such person, nor has there ever been. Again, as I pointed out, Brady has his dumb business and his family. Rodgers has his GF and plays guitar and golfs seriously. There is absolutely nothing to see here, except your apparent Rosen hate. The problem with Rosen is that he actually thinks he can fix the NCAA in 10-20 hours. He also probably thinks he can solve world hunger, cure cancer and of course fix the Arizona offense in 10-20 hours. Rosens downfall won't be his talent, it will be his mental makeup. By all reports the guy is very douchy, entitled and thinks he's smarter than everyone in the room. Not great characteristics for the locker room or the film room. (Jay Cutler anyone?) And telling the world he can fix the NCAA is proof of that. I will take Allen's demeanor any day and I'll take his talents as well. Should be an interesting comparison for a few years for sure, but as of today I feel pretty good about the choice Beane made.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 We don’t actually know how much time he spent developing his plan. 10 - 20 hrs was someone’s assumption. He’s such a brainiac maybe he hatched the plan while he was having breakfast eating his granola and drinking a double latte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 to many unpunished trolls on these boards, something the admins here do little about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Bills Pimpin' said: The problem with Rosen is that he actually thinks he can fix the NCAA in 10-20 hours. He also probably thinks he can solve world hunger, cure cancer and of course fix the Arizona offense in 10-20 hours. Rosens downfall won't be his talent, it will be his mental makeup. By all reports the guy is very douchy, entitled and thinks he's smarter than everyone in the room. Not great characteristics for the locker room or the film room. (Jay Cutler anyone?) And telling the world he can fix the NCAA is proof of that. I will take Allen's demeanor any day and I'll take his talents as well. Should be an interesting comparison for a few years for sure, but as of today I feel pretty good about the choice Beane made.. But, but...DAN MARINO! JOHN ELWAY! JIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) as he should be.. Go Allen! 1 hour ago, Bills Pimpin' said: The problem with Rosen is that he actually thinks he can fix the NCAA It's not hard to fix the NCAA, replace with another college institution or put people in charge with common sense not to profit off of some very poor insanely talented athletes forced to go through their system. Edited July 20, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloflash Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 On 7/18/2018 at 1:01 PM, benderbender said: It’s happened before Hahaha,at first I thought it was fake,then I checked out this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjm4x1DhP_Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) On 7/18/2018 at 9:29 AM, Sky Diver said: Let me know when he cures cancer or solves world hunger. If he could get you to stop posting then he'd surpass the feat of curing cancer. Edited July 25, 2018 by leonbus23 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 On 7/18/2018 at 6:37 PM, BillsFan17 said: There is a rookie wage scale, its pretty much fixed what Allen can make. ...agents are playing the waiting game to see what #1 Mayfield signs for...variables are guaranteed money and offset language............... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...agents are playing the waiting game to see what #1 Mayfield signs for...variables are guaranteed money and offset language............... Its offset language in regards to the guaranteed money and how its handled if the rookie doesnt last the duration of their rookie contract. Other than that, each draft pick falls into a slot of what they can make. Baker can sign right now and it wouldn't necessarily have any effect on Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: Its offset language in regards to the guaranteed money and how its handled if the rookie doesnt last the duration of their rookie contract. Other than that, each draft pick falls into a slot of what they can make. Baker can sign right now and it wouldn't necessarily have any effect on Allen. ...so if those two variables have no effect, why did Boza hold out?............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...so if those two variables have no effect, why did Boza hold out?............. Because of offsetting language in regards to the signing bonus. And its Bosa not Boza "The impasse between Bosa and the Chargers centers around a failure to agree on offset language and Bosa’s signing bonus deferment. The current collective bargaining agreement made negotiating with rookies a bit easier for NFL teams, but offset language remains a sticking point, and it certainly is a huge factor for the Chargers in this situation." https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2016/8/8/12402198/joey-bosa-contract-holdout-san-diego-chargers-why Edited July 21, 2018 by BillsFan17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Oh yeah? Does this song start playing when he steps on the field too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 On 7/18/2018 at 1:00 PM, eball said: I don't necessarily disagree with you but EJ Manuel is, by all accounts, a very hard worker. "Making it" as an NFL QB is combination of many things -- talent, intelligence, mental fortitude, work ethic. Come up short in any one of those areas and you have a tough time. I would add good coaching and he did not have that. On 7/18/2018 at 2:14 PM, Reed83HOF said: OROY = Josh Rosen You can bank it... Hopefully not fully guaranteed by US government including bailout by government for that is a junk bond. On 7/18/2018 at 2:25 PM, Luxy312 said: It's good that he's there and hopefully he is beginning to work already. His character and attitude were never in question. In terms of the "he hasn't signed his contract" doomsayers, it's simply not a big deal. His agent is actually negotiating for 7 other rookies besides Allen. The issue isn't the dollars, which are predetermined, but by offset language. Basically, it says that if they are cut or traded before their 4 year guaranteed deal is done, that the guaranteed money is offset by whatever he makes elsewhere. His agent wants it removed from all of these rookie deals, while teams are balking. It will get worked out none the less. No reason why teams should. No reason to allow double dipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Pimpin' Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 On 7/20/2018 at 9:01 AM, PetermanThrew5Picks said: as he should be.. Go Allen! It's not hard to fix the NCAA, replace with another college institution or put people in charge with common sense not to profit off of some very poor insanely talented athletes forced to go through their system. Yeah. That's not hard at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Who cares? Oh, only those emotional types who so badly want the guy to succeed and thereby roll out tidbit after tidbit as if they have a causal relationship to success. Looks, he did this, this, and this this summer after picking cantaloupes and throwing them 50 yards into bins all day. And the book says if he does them all.... Super Bowl. Lots of QBs work just as hard, come in early, stay late, talk the talk,.... and then suck royally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Already where?.. -I/R ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Imo Allen is the starter week 1 or becomes it before the end of week 2. Allen is doing all the small stuff while also having the most talent. When he is out working the other guys what's the point of not playing the more talented guy? Run game, defense, 2 or 3 big pass plays a game is a decent formula to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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