PromoTheRobot Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) https://theathletic.com/413439/2018/06/29/siran-neal-buffalo-bills-nickel/ “We’re trying some different players in that position,” McDermott said during minicamp. “You’re not going to do it unless you feel like it’s a position of strength. We’re still vetting that process right now and trying to find exactly the right guy for that role. And sometimes that changes a little bit, just the complexion of it, based on who you are and the strengths of your players. I know [defensive coordinator Leslie] Frazier and his staff are vetting that out right now.” One player being vetted is Neal. Neal isn’t quite as big as Thompson, who plays closer to 230 pounds, but he hits like a wrecking ball, allowing him to play the run, while having the feet to match up in coverage. Not hearing Neal's name much at OTA but it sounds like he's a puzzle piece McDermott has been looking for: a corner who hits like a linebacker. Edited June 30, 2018 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) ....good find Promo.......love it when the 5th round keeps being special.....Meatball, Milano and now perhaps this kid?...maybe Teller?....hopefully Peterman (uh oh; gonna get torched for this one) at some point?....stay tuned.......... Edited June 30, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 30, 2018 Author Share Posted June 30, 2018 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....good find Promo.......love it when the 5th round keeps being special.....Meatball, Milano and now perhaps this kid?...maybe Teller?....hopefully Peterman (uh oh; gonna get torched for this one) at some point?....stay tuned.......... Peterman's floor is being a solid backup like Reich. Nothing wrong with that. But this Neal kid might become something special. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Peterman's floor is being a solid backup like Reich. Nothing wrong with that. But this Neal kid might become something special. His floor is that he will not make it in the NFL just like many other QBs who come into the league as 5th round picks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: His floor is that he will not make it in the NFL just like many other QBs who come into the league as 5th round picks. Exactly. reich was a heck of a backup QB... that is Peterman ceiling rn imo a good backup ( and I like Neal In a big dime package playing next to Edmunds ) Edited June 30, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: His floor is that he will not make it in the NFL just like many other QBs who come into the league as 5th round picks. ....seeing you chime in is a complete and total shock............... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....seeing you chime in is a complete and total shock............... Seeing you respond to the obvious in defense is the same. Don't care. 10 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Exactly. reich was a heck of a QB... that is Peterman ceiling rn imo a good backup ( and I like Neal In a big dime package playing next to Edmunds ) Backup QB/Spot Starter would be a good career for him. No guarantees of that. Edited June 30, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Exactly. reich was a heck of a backup QB... that is Peterman ceiling rn imo a good backup ( and I like Neal In a big dime package playing next to Edmunds ) ...no qualms if he ends up as a decent backup......if out of the Allen/McCarron?Peterman trio, we net the next Kelly/Reich duo, what would be wrong with that?.....and maybe the odd man out nets us a draft pick as well....sounds like a lousy scenario to me........ 8 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Seeing you respond to the obvious in defense is the same. Don't care. Backup QB/Spot Starter would be a good career for him. No guarantees of that. ....and nothing wrong with that either.......a 5th progressing to a decent backup/spot starter would be pretty successful career...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...no qualms if he ends up as a decent backup......if out of the Allen/McCarron?Peterman trio, we net the next Kelly/Reich duo, what would be wrong with that?.....and maybe the odd man out nets us a draft pick as well....sounds like a lousy scenario to me........ ....and nothing wrong with that either.......a 5th progressing to a decent backup/spot starter would be pretty successful career...... Of course it would as I have said many times. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Of course it would as I have said many times. We'll see. ...see, I knew we were on the SAME PAGE.....GREAT minds think alike..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...no qualms if he ends up as a decent backup......if out of the Allen/McCarron?Peterman trio, we net the next Kelly/Reich duo, what would be wrong with that?.....and maybe the odd man out nets us a draft pick as well....sounds like a lousy scenario to me........ ....and nothing wrong with that either.......a 5th progressing to a decent backup/spot starter would be pretty successful career...... I actually don’t mind our QB room rn alot of younger kids who are driven and have a lot to prove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I actually don’t mind our QB room rn alot of younger kids who are driven and have a lot to prove ....a long, LONG time coming.............when Waste Management would decline picking up 90+% of the garbage passing through the OBD QB turnstiles post Kelly, you know there are "issues".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...see, I knew we were on the SAME PAGE.....GREAT minds think alike..... I really appreciated the way you handled yourself in this thread. You could have been much different - much respect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Just now, White Linen said: I really appreciated the way you handled yourself in this thread. You could have been much different - much respect. ...I appreciate it.....the only way this place will work and survive is if we have mutual respect for differing opinions.....sure there are those who 24/7/365 drive their opinion into the ground no matter what, so you just move on from those.....my pretty simple mantra that I have used in business for the last 42 years and applies here is that, "treat people the way you want to be treated"....engage those who buy into it and disengage those that do not"...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...I appreciate it.....the only way this place will work and survive is if we have mutual respect for differing opinions.....sure there are those who 24/7/365 drive their opinion into the ground no matter what, so you just move on from those.....my pretty simple mantra that I have used in business for the last 42 years and applies here is that, "treat people the way you want to be treated"....engage those who buy into it and disengage those that do not"...... Is that respectful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 So this isn’t a Neal thread?... 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Is that respectful? ...oh stop...it was a jab in jest.......Jesus.......an emoticon cannot seriously bring down you day.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, whatdrought said: So this isn’t a Neal thread?... That was just a ruse..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Augie said: That was just a ruse..... ...so back to Neal....what do you think Augie?...potential for another 5th round find?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...so back to Neal....what do you think Augie?...potential for another 5th round find?..... We need to make a habit of finding some steals....and I pray he’s one of them. I like versatility. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, whatdrought said: So this isn’t a Neal thread?... I cannot believe it turned into another thread about Peterman. I hope in time we can discuss Tyrod ? lol love these up and comers ! One of my favorite bits of team building. Bringing in seemingly low percentage to succeed players and letting them shine does my heart good Go Siran ! 16 minutes ago, Augie said: That was just a ruse..... at least it wasn't a click to peterpan again ! Edited June 30, 2018 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 https://youtu.be/5QrFj8M2cHI fun highlight video. He has a tough/mean attitude when he plays. Could be a nice addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: https://theathletic.com/413439/2018/06/29/siran-neal-buffalo-bills-nickel/ “We’re trying some different players in that position,” McDermott said during minicamp. “You’re not going to do it unless you feel like it’s a position of strength. We’re still vetting that process right now and trying to find exactly the right guy for that role. And sometimes that changes a little bit, just the complexion of it, based on who you are and the strengths of your players. I know [defensive coordinator Leslie] Frazier and his staff are vetting that out right now.” One player being vetted is Neal. Neal isn’t quite as big as Thompson, who plays closer to 230 pounds, but he hits like a wrecking ball, allowing him to play the run, while having the feet to match up in coverage. Not hearing Neal's name much at OTA but it sounds like he's a puzzle piece McDermott has been looking for: a corner who hits like a linebacker. Thanks for the share Promo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 17 minutes ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said: https://youtu.be/5QrFj8M2cHI fun highlight video. He has a tough/mean attitude when he plays. Could be a nice addition. I know it is a High light video, but that was f'n fun as heck ! what are his lowlights ? Because he looked smart physical reads well and wow he sure uses leverage well on those sure handed tackles. confidence is easy to see. Thanks MBGA : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 ..NOT meant to be a "tear jerker...feel good story" comment, but kids like the lad Neal, Milano, Meatball, etc are my kind of NFL guys....never destined to be in the 1st or 2nd, but it didn't mean a damn thing....they fought, scraped and persevered eventually going in the 5th and hell bent on making EVERYTHING of the opportunity.....only 1,696 are privileged to be employed in the NFL annually and these guys just work their tails off to be there....what is even more gratifying is that they QUIETLY go about their business to be the best....now THAT is "feel good" for me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..NOT meant to be a "tear jerker...feel good story" comment, but kids like the lad Neal, Milano, Meatball, etc are my kind of NFL guys....never destined to be in the 1st or 2nd, but it didn't mean a damn thing....they fought, scraped and persevered eventually going in the 5th and hell bent on making EVERYTHING of the opportunity.....only 1,696 are privileged to be employed in the NFL annually and these guys just work their tails off to be there....what is even more gratifying is that they QUIETLY go about their business to be the best....now THAT is "feel good" for me.... Perhaps it truly is best played as a Team Game. as compared to "me" game as the NFL has plenty of. ( yes i know, it truly is a business ) It's a little creepy when anyone calls it , building a culture , when you think about it. But since i like this culture , I am cool with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Perhaps it truly is best played as a Team Game. as compared to "me" game as the NFL has plenty of. ( yes i know, it truly is a business ) It's a little creepy when anyone calls it , building a culture , when you think about it. But since i like this culture , I am cool with it ...DEAD on and so am I bud......buying into the unifying culture eliminates one more from thing from the checklist in a highly complex and demanding game.....diapering 53 divas is a time wasting, woeful distraction IMO..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Peterman's floor is being a solid backup like Reich. Nothing wrong with that. More likely his ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 26 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..NOT meant to be a "tear jerker...feel good story" comment, but kids like the lad Neal, Milano, Meatball, etc are my kind of NFL guys....never destined to be in the 1st or 2nd, but it didn't mean a damn thing....they fought, scraped and persevered eventually going in the 5th and hell bent on making EVERYTHING of the opportunity.....only 1,696 are privileged to be employed in the NFL annually and these guys just work their tails off to be there....what is even more gratifying is that they QUIETLY go about their business to be the best....now THAT is "feel good" for me.... Where they are drafted means nothing the second after they are picked to me..... To me this is where your scouts and gm make their money.....finding those guys in the late rounds that end up being real players.....I look at this draft and think Beane did something really special this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Where they are drafted means nothing the second after they are picked to me..... To me this is where your scouts and gm make their money.....finding those guys in the late rounds that end up being real players.....I look at this draft and think Beane did something really special this year ...NOT disputing the "where factor"....BUT...finding them later before someone else does means you scout staff is earning their money as you said.....just ironic that Meatball, Milano, this Neal kid and perhaps Teller from VT are all in the 5th.....thinkin' maybe to "drink a 5th to the 5th"...LOL............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...NOT disputing the "where factor"....BUT...finding them later before someone else does means you scout staff is earning their money as you said.....just ironic that Meatball, Milano, this Neal kid and perhaps Teller from VT are all in the 5th.....thinkin' maybe to "drink a 5th to the 5th"...LOL............. I was thinking we should just trade all our picks for like 20 5th round picks and call it a day! (Im just kidding....but we do appear to have some success in this round) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 taking time to sort out from the weeds which are flowers. College Scouting staff is looking good and Pro scouts are not far behind. Agreed that whaleys pro scouts were pretty good. likely College too . Till Rex started picking his defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, whatdrought said: So this isn’t a Neal thread?... I wondered the same thing. I like Neal. The main risk is that some or all of his skills won't translate well to the NFL. That's a pretty big leap from Jacksonville State. There's a good chance he'll be able to contribute in some capacity, however. Edited July 1, 2018 by TigerJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: I was thinking we should just trade all our picks for like 20 5th round picks and call it a day! (Im just kidding....but we do appear to have some success in this round) ...LMAO!!....seems to be our "value round", right?.....uncanny but certainly a potential benefit................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...LMAO!!....seems to be our "value round", right?.....uncanny but certainly a potential benefit................ The 5th is the new 2nd! I honestly didn’t realize he was as big as he is at 6’1” and 202 lbs per article. That’’s bigger than my draft time image for some reason and could allow him to be used in a variety of ways.....hopefully. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 3 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...so back to Neal....what do you think Augie?...potential for another 5th round find?..... I recall that after Beane got here he signed a lot of guys to the Scouting department that we were told were up and comers several of whom were taking sideways moves to come to Buffalo ( no doubt though Pegula’s money was a factor as well).. This is where those guys can earn their keep..finding quality players on Day 3 of the draft... Must admit that Neal wasn’t on my radar prior to the draft but have since become optimistic about him.. Ditto Teller who was on my radar and I loved in the 5th..Probably asking a bit much to expect a lot from him this year though... maybe one to break through in 2019.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 6 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: His floor is that he will not make it in the NFL just like many other QBs who come into the league as 5th round picks. Just shut up already. Why does everyone have to keep repeating the same dumb shet instead of seeing how he develops? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, Wagon Circler said: Just shut up already. Why does everyone have to keep repeating the same dumb shet instead of seeing how he develops? Grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 IMO Neal could be the steal of the draft. It depends on McDermott scheming him in properly. 34 minutes ago, Wagon Circler said: Just shut up already. Why does everyone have to keep repeating the same dumb shet instead of seeing how he develops? while i appreciate your position, I think your delivery is lacking. Stop being an !@#$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 7 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Peterman's floor is being a solid backup like Reich. Nothing wrong with that. But this Neal kid might become something special. That his floor? Some may say his ceiling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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