Azalin Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, joesixpack said: I'm not supporting "limiting speech." I'm supporting locking people out of access to government who've proven to be bad actors. Just before the post I quoted you said this: "This is why I'm so anti-"free press." They're benefiting from a system that allows them to lie, to bribe, to cheat and to hide those they deem important sources while working to undermine that system. It's kind of a joke that anyone defends them." Between that and the post I quoted, it sounded an awful lot like you were advocating silencing elements in the media that you disagreed with. Was I mistaken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Azalin said: Just before the post I quoted you said this: "This is why I'm so anti-"free press." They're benefiting from a system that allows them to lie, to bribe, to cheat and to hide those they deem important sources while working to undermine that system. It's kind of a joke that anyone defends them." Between that and the post I quoted, it sounded an awful lot like you were advocating silencing elements in the media that you disagreed with. Was I mistaken? I'm all for silencing those in the media who've proven to assist those with an agenda of toppling a duly elected president. Those people are working AGAINST democracy, not for it. But I'm a realist, and I understand those people will get away with it, and there's not much that can be done about it. They cloak themselves in the constitution while actively working to undermine it. Edited June 19, 2018 by joesixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, joesixpack said: I'm all for silencing those in the media who've proven to assist those with an agenda of toppling a duly elected president. Those people are working AGAINST democracy, not for it. But I'm a realist, and I understand those people will get away with it, and there's not much that can be done about it. They cloak themselves in the constitution while actively working to undermine it. did Fox News not do that with Obama? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 One gigantic squirrel. Obabama did this and not a peep from the Retard rodeo on here. Now that the IG Report is out showing that they f'd up the Hillery and Mueller probes,This becomes an issue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: did Fox News not do that with Obama? You mean "did republicans assist unelected elements of the federal government in promoting attempts to impeach and remove a sitting president under completely manufactured pretenses?" No, no they didn't. Edited June 19, 2018 by joesixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Just now, plenzmd1 said: did Fox News not do that with Obama? Working to undermine an individual President is not the same thing as working to undermine the Constitution. Important distinction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said: did Fox News not do that with Obama? I mean the whole birther thing was a Fox pet project no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Just now, plenzmd1 said: did Fox News not do that with Obama? I mean the whole birther thing was a Fox pet project no? Actually, no. That came from the Clinton campaign. Also, whether you choose to believe President Obama's birth certificate is real, or not, this is worth watching: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 First lady Melania Trump’s immigration attorney criticized the “inhumanity” of the administration’s zero-tolerance border policy during an appearance on Fox & Friends on Tuesday. “The inhumanity of what we see is reminiscent of detentions center of Nazi Germany, of the slave trade,” Michael Wildes said. “We can do better when we try to figure out this problem.” The New York lawyer, who represented the first lady, her parents, and her sister during their immigration proceedings, also said the deterrence policy “goes against the very ethos of our founding documents and fathers.” He added, “Let’s not forget this problem needs to be fixed because the greatest risk takers and the greatest entrepreneurs historically have been immigrants in this country.” On Sunday, the first lady said she “hates to see children separated from their families,” speaking out against a policy her husband’s administration officially announced last month. https://www.thedailybeast.com/melania-trumps-immigration-lawyer-border-policy-is-like-nazism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 21 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Actually, no. That came from the Clinton campaign. Also, whether you choose to believe President Obama's birth certificate is real, or not, this is worth watching: OKay, if you say so...Maricopa County eh? .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 hour ago, joesixpack said: Wonderful idealism there. But have you SEEN the majority of Americans? Most of them can't string together a coherent sentence, yet are expected to understand a topic like this? Dare I say, they're just a basket of deplorables? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Dare I say, they're just a basket of deplorables? No, they're entitled to their opinions and their state of being. I don't find them deplorable. But I'm not going to pretend the average american is a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, joesixpack said: No, they're entitled to their opinions and their state of being. I don't find them deplorable. But I'm not going to pretend the average american is a genius. Are you contending that you are a genius since you at least sorta understand the issues here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: Are you contending that you are a genius since you at least sorta understand the issues here? No, I'm contending that I give a !@#$...whereas most people probably don't care enough to dig into it, or lack the intellectual curiosity to look into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 hour ago, joesixpack said: I'm not supporting "limiting speech." I'm supporting locking people out of access to government who've proven to be bad actors. The !@#$??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DC Tom said: The !@#$??? To clarify: I'm not saying these people shouldn't be allowed to publish. Rather, that they should not be granted access to press conferences. Credentials revoked. Edited June 19, 2018 by joesixpack added "not" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 LOCK THEM UP LOCK THEM UP LOCK THEM UP Teaching those people how horribly their kids will be treated when caught will keep them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 2 hours ago, OJ Tom said: The People want a wall! That's a big reason why the President was elected. It's not just "Trump's Wall". And a wall will also have a big effect on lowering the number of children at these facilities. The wall that Mexico is paying for, right? The wall will never be built. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Bienvenido a American Village, rompe leyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Trump wants the wall. No one outside of the Trump Cult is calling for the stupid wall. You lemmings that thought Mexico was going to pay for it have been sold a bill of goods for sure I don’t know one person who thought Trump could get Mexico to pay for it. At the time I just guessed Trump wasn’t saying things that he figured didn’t matter because Donald Trump was/is never gonna be president. Except of course he became president. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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