thunderingsquid Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 A reduced role didn't sit well with Cassius Marsh - not even when the New England Patriots were winning by a considerable margin. Marsh told the San Francisco Chronicle he confronted Bill Belichick after the Oakland Raiders' game when the Patriots won, 33-8, and Marsh only got three snaps. That wasn't the only drama that stemmed from the game. Here's what Sports Illustrated's Albert Breer reported: "I'm told he pitched a fit over playing time at halftime of the Patriots-Raiders game in Mexico City (he was in on two snaps that week), which contributed to his release days later." The Athletic's Jeff Howe confirmed Breer's report, and added additional details. Hopefully, the bout with Gatorade jug cooled off Marsh. Although, he still seems to be steaming about his time with the Patriots. He expressed a number of qualms with Bill Belichick's methodology. "I confronted (coach Bill Belichick) about all the things that were going on," Marsh told the San Francisco Chronicle's Eric Branch. "I won't get into detail, but it was B.S. things they were doing. I just wasn't a fan. And so I, basically, without asking to get cut, I kind of asked to get cut. … I had confidence that I would have an opportunity elsewhere and I would take advantage of it." Marsh was not the player the Patriots had hoped he'd be. They traded a fifth and seventh round pick to the Seattle Seahawks for him, likely with hopes he'd be at least a role player on special teams and defense. He ended up a jack-of-all-trades but master of none. He struggled to maintain edge discipline as a pass rusher and run defender, and never developed into a coverage linebacker. "They asked me to do a bunch of stuff that I had never done: covering running backs and receivers and basically almost never rushing the passer, which is what I did in playing defensive line," Marsh told the Chronicle. "They don't have fun there. There's nothing fun about it. There's nothing happy about it. I didn't enjoy any of my time there, you know what I'm saying? It made me for the first time in my life think about not playing football, because I hated it that much." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Sounds like he didn’t #trusttheprocess. Guys like him are replaceable so BB gave him the axe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 I know, I know. Just a role player that didn't work out but critical stories of the Hoodie are still pretty delicious but not very filling. Like a half a glazed donut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 As much as it pains me to side with the Pats*, I tend to agree with Devin McCorty here: “We’ve got a couple guys here who were in Cleveland and went 0-16. They said that wasn’t fun.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 If you didn't watch this embedded tweet, do it now! 1 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wily Dog Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 He signed a 7 M contract with the 49 er's. not bad for a "journeyman " 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I have a good friend that played for Saban in college and Belichick in the NFL. He thinks highly of both of them. He spent some time with Rob Ryan as his DC in Cleveland. He didn’t think much of him (at all). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 48 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Sounds like he didn’t #trusttheprocess. Guys like him are replaceable so BB gave him the axe. Also sounds like BB traded picks for a guy then asked him to do stuff he wasn't good at. Genius move. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I read about this last week. I wonder if there's still some animosity from certain players stemming from Belichick's decision to sit Malcolm Butler for the Super Bowl. In past years, Brady has always went to every voluntary OTA and always preached about how important it is for him and other players to be there. Then this year he, as well as Gronk, were nowhere near the OTAs this season. And we know Belechick stepped on Brady's toes by telling his personal trainer to take a hike. Are some dents starting to appear in the Iron Hoodie? Haha. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 It's so bad in cheatsville that Brady only wants to play into his 50's instead of his 60's. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 36 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Also sounds like BB traded picks for a guy then asked him to do stuff he wasn't good at. Genius move. I think the same thing is coming for Corradelle Patterson. I’ll be surprised if he makes it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Sounds like he didn’t #trusttheprocess. Guys like him are replaceable so BB gave him the axe. Yep, seems like the younger generation of players don’t understand this concept. BB has always been BB, but we haven’t heard many complaints until recently. They are compensated nicely for their time in New England, and are hired more or less as temp workers. This is the way pro sports work as a whole. Only the superstars stick around for prolonged periods of time. It’s just more blatantly obvious in NE. Edited June 4, 2018 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 The guys from NFL AM were bashing Cassius Marsh for giving up a deep TD pass against the Chiefs in Week 1. My question is, why is a DE having to cover a guy who's deep down the field? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I have a good friend that played for Saban in college and Belichick in the NFL. He thinks highly of both of them. He spent some time with Rob Ryan as his DC in Cleveland. He didn’t think much of him (at all). I have some Urban Meyer stories. He scares the **** out of everyone and is an over intense !@#$. But, he wins. Even the assistants feel this way, but they know the opportunities the program affords them. And the players love their position coaches, who they spend the most time with anyway. And they love to win, have their bodies transformed by Mickey Marrotti, be on national tv all the time, and get drafted by the NFL. It’s not a ton of fun, but certain kids are willing to sign up for it. Some make it, some don’t. If he thinks a kid can’t mentally or physically handle it, he tells him to transfer because their is another 4 or 5 star waiting on that scholly who can. Edited June 4, 2018 by YoloinOhio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Wily Dog said: He signed a 7 M contract with the 49 er's. not bad for a "journeyman " but it is two years with $3 mil guaranteed...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Sounds like he didn’t #trusttheprocess. Guys like him are replaceable so BB gave him the axe. ...and made an example of him for the others to see, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Augie said: ...and made an example of him for the others to see, as well. ......do you think that is the general stance that McBeane & McD take as well?........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 My reation to all this is that Belichick probably operates with an all business philosophy in dealing with his players. Obviously, it works for the Patriots, and some players thrive in that atmosphere. Others aren't going to. Rex Ryan is the anti-Bill Bellichick, and that obviously didn't work in Buffalo. Sean McDermott's approach is probably closer to Belichick's with a critical difference - he has created an atmosphere of mutual caring and commitment. The coaches seem to care about the players. The players seem to care about the other players and the coaches. Overall, I like that, and think it is healthy, but there is one drawback - when it becomes obvious that a change in personnel becomes necessary, it always hurts a little more to be dumped by somebody you thought cared about you. With Belichick, you accept when you sign with New England that the moment you lose your value as a team contributor you're going to be cut or traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ......do you think that is the general stance that McBeane & McD take as well?........ I think they want “their kind of guys”, but I don’t think there’s any spite to it. THAT is the difference in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Augie said: I think they want “their kind of guys”, but I don’t think there’s any spite to it. THAT is the difference in my mind. ...wholeheartedly agree bud.....they don't want any distractions to their "sense of purpose" or "their way"....ditto for Belichick......."our way or adios"......and it could be a 1st rounder or UDFA.....I like it....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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