grb Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: You can also look at Jordan Matthews and KB, who had higher production before playing with him, not just WRs who left. Watkins also showed frustration with TT, it wasn’t all great. That’s why I said “for the most part” they had chemistry. Matthews? Who now says he was injured even before being traded by the Eagles, was double-injured the second day of training camp, and was then injured the entire season? Benjamin? He had (32) catches for 14.8 ypc in eight games for the Panthers before the trade, (16) catches for 13.6 ypc in six games for the Bills after the trade. Given his multiple injuries during those six games, inability to practice, questionable almost every game, etc, I see limited significance in that small drop-off. Another point : I just checked Robert Woods' numbers and was surprised at how small the increase was in LA: 2016 - Bills - 13 games played, 10 games started, 51 catches, 613 yds, 12.0 ypc 2017 - Rams - 12 games played, 11 games started, 56 catches, 781yds, 13.9 ypc Which led me to compare Watkins / Woods together - 2015 vs 2017, when both were relatively healthy : 2015 - Bills - 60 (SW) + 47 (RW) = 107 catches 2017 - Rams - 39 (SW) + 56 (RW) = 95 catches As for last season, the team's wide receiver room was like an intensive care ward with various practice squad scrubs drifting in as visitors. And Jones, of course. But he was so wide-eyed and confused he might just have wandered in by mistake. 1 hour ago, elroy16 said: I'm not going to miss this for a second. Hilarious. Bills' fans!!! The only place on Planet Freaking Earth where you can find someone make a negative of NOT throwing interceptions. If we are to take Elroy16 at his word, he'll be darn tickled-pink when Buffalo qbs are regularly throwing it up to the other team again. Bet Peterman made Elroy swoon...... Edited May 15, 2018 by grb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 27 minutes ago, grb said: Hilarious. Bills' fans!!! The only place on Planet Freaking Earth where you can find someone make a negative of NOT throwing interceptions. If we are to take Elroy16 at his word, he'll be darn tickled-pink when Buffalo qbs are regularly throwing it up to the other team again. Bet Peterman made Elroy swoon...... Be snarky all you want, its been staring at you in the face for 3 years. If you don't see it by now, then I don't know what to tell you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 15 minutes ago, elroy16 said: Be snarky all you want, its been staring at you in the face for 3 years. If you don't see it by now, then I don't know what to tell you. Can confirm, once Clay went down in that game there were exactly 0 receivers with any sort of rapport with Tyrod left on the field. Nobody who instilled any sort of trust whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, grb said: Another point : I just checked Robert Woods' numbers and was surprised at how small the increase was in LA: 2016 - Bills - 13 games played, 10 games started, 51 catches, 613 yds, 12.0 ypc 2017 - Rams - 12 games played, 11 games started, 56 catches, 781yds, 13.9 ypc I'm not sure that almost 18 yards/game more in LA, almost 2ypc more as you say, and 5 TDs to compared to only one from last year can be considered a 'small increase'. His stats improved across the board. Granted, he really benefitted from that offense in a way that he didn't in Buffalo, but still. Edited May 15, 2018 by GoBills808 weird bolded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Hue is not a good football coach. Your best QB Is your starting QB, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 14 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Welcome to Scott talk. Here we complain about the Bills. Still complain about the Watkins trade Constantly defend Tyrod Ya know....no big wup. This is your deal....there was a tiny space for quality humor there.......Teef used it.......then you got on his lap. Not every take warrants a toadie-take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: This is your deal....there was a tiny space for quality humor there.......Teef used it.......then you got on his lap. Not every take warrants a toadie-take. Okay Mr. Belding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Okay Mr. Belding. Just give a "like" next time. Helping you out like when I encouraged you to change your name from "Teeflebees" to something less stalker-ish. If you love something set it free....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Just give a "like" next time. Helping you out like when I encouraged you to change your name from "Teeflebees" to something less stalker-ish. If you love something set it free....... Was this in a fortune cookie you once read? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaLoko Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 On 5/12/2018 at 12:16 PM, YoloinOhio said: https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/05/11/mistake-browns-are-making-baker-mayfield I´ve been away from TSW this week, no apologies...and when I come back I found the hottest topic to be just another spin of the T2 haters, despite the fact that he is in a different team now!! only in a Bills fan board you can find this black pearls!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) On 5/15/2018 at 1:17 AM, ScottLaw said: Check your history. Watkins started the first two games and was clearly hampered by his foot and sat the next 8 games before coming back for the last 6 games.(The last 5 with Tyrod as EJ started week 17) If you don't believe who he had at receiver contributed to the fall off in deep balls then I don't know what to tell you. Then I guess you don't know what to tell me. What you've got there is a justification. Watkins played in eight games. He was healthy enough to get 154 yards in one. And yet he wasn't productive overall in long balls. It's a justification. Again, Goodwin played in 15 games, Clay played in 15 and was open long. Tyrod simply wasn't hitting the long balls the way he had been in 2015. You said that the new regime getting rid of Watkins and Woods destroyed his long ball stats. Not true. They were pretty much the same in 2016 as they were in 2017. Bad. And what showed up in the stats was easily visible to the naked eye. Overthrow after overthrow. Yet again, I hope he solves the problem and does well with the Browns. He's a good guy. Edited May 16, 2018 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoandfourteen Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 On 5/13/2018 at 9:57 AM, ScottLaw said: Did you just start watching the Bills in 2017? The Bills were among the best in the league at deep passing plays before the new regime basically stripped the team of and deep threat/legitimate WR. With a healthy Watkins and Goodwin the guy was GREAT at the deep passing game. ?. He checked down practically every time? There's a well thought out statement. I'll say it again. Some fans just don't know what they are watching at the QB position. Tyrods a solid QB to have if you have some good pieces around him. Cleveland will be a lot better this year. Better than the Bills, IMO.(cue the, "GO BE A BROWNS FAN THEN!" Reaction). Yes! Tyrod was great -- I remember all of the zero 300 yard passing games he had lighting fools up with that "deep passing game". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Just give a "like" next time. Helping you out like when I encouraged you to change your name from "Teeflebees" to something less stalker-ish. If you love something set it free....... Oh holy hell... Teeflebees is Royale with Cheese?! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 8 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: If you love something set it free....... Or send it to Cleveland so it doesn’t pass for 60 yards or get choked out by Blake Bortles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 5 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Or send it to Cleveland so it doesn’t pass for 60 yards or get choked out by Blake Bortles. I am seriously starting to think that you dated Tyrod Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) Hue Jackson has to win 6-7 plus games and show a large amount of improvement to stay the head coach. Taylor with a good run game and defense is the best way for Cleveland to do that. Mayfield will have to completely beat out Taylor. The biggest learning curve will be snaps under center and play action passes where he will be asked to turn his back to the defense. After watching Kizer and the offense turn the ball over multiple times in the redzone, it will have to take a crazy preseason to pass Taylor. Edited May 16, 2018 by Mat68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: It's a joke Scott....a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Hue Jackson has to win 6-7 plus games and show a large amount of improvement to stay the head coach. Taylor with a good run game and defense is the best way for Cleveland to do that. Mayfield will have to completely beat out Taylor. The biggest learning curve will be snaps under center and play action passes where he will be asked to turn his back to the defense. After watching Kizer and the offense turn the ball over multiple times in the redzone, it will have to take a crazy preseason to pass Taylor. I think the Browns have a good chance to go 1-9 in their first 10 games with the only win being vs the Jets. Bye Hue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Just now, PeterGriffin said: I think the Browns have a good chance to go 1-9 in their first 10 games with the only win being vs the Jets. Bye Hue They start out 0-4 or 1-4 Jackson is fired and Haley takes over and probably becomes the head coach at the end of the season. When Hue is fired they bench Taylor for Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 minute ago, PeterGriffin said: I think the Browns have a good chance to go 1-9 in their first 10 games with the only win being vs the Jets. Bye Hue I wouldn't be surprised if they started the season 4-3 or 5-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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