OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Lurker said: Is the irony of how Kim got to be Mrs. Pegula lost on anyone today? ....ignorant and classless.........SMH......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Hardly, and I'd say you're being dismissive of reality. It's an incredibly one sided process. There's a reason that the #metoo movement has precipitated a large scale pullback by men in the work place, exiting mentor relationships, being less willing to work/travel with female co-workers in a 1:1 capacity etc. There is a very real push to "believe the accuser" as opposed to finding the truth. This is a real thing. I don't know that's the case with Brandon. Could be that he's a POS, and was serially abusive and grossly inappropriate, but until I know for sure, I won't celebrate his, or anyone else's dismissal (or recusal) on these grounds. This shouldn't be controversial. As an aside, your lecturing anyone about their biases is the height of irony. Is awkwardly and overtly hitting on married women who were not soliciting such an advance behavior detrimental to an organization? If it is...You can rest easy now as Russ was fired with cause as I know directly of such occurrence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Just now, Estro said: I've wanted Russ gone for well over 10 yrs. The guy just seemed like such a weasel. I've been to probably 10 road games the last few yrs. and it always concerned me that the Pegulas were chaperoned all over the field pregame by Russ. He had way too much clout in this organization for far too long, IMO. smh. As new owners, that's exactly what Brandon should have been doing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Valid point, I'm sure Russ had a contract. I sit corrected. Counter point: contract very likely had a bunch of "outs" in it for morals, conduct detrimental, etc etc which put a lot of the "at will" back in, even where that isn't the correct legal descriptive I'm sure there are defined "outs" in the contract (and some probably cover the conduct alleged here), but specified contractual terms defining the circumstances under which the employee may be fired is the exact opposite of at will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Banging the help and then lying to the Pegs about it. Pretty much confirms what I have suspected about Russ for years...not too bright and a weasel. Good riddens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Boyst62 said: I could have posted this all around noon after someone said something in a group an two follow ups confirmed. PSE wase trying to wait until Friday for this. To Kim and Terry--this ruins the good karma of the NHL lottery and the draft...I can see wanting to bask on that for a few days. Stuff like this just doesn't hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 All I can say is I have known two people, both women that have had interactions with Brandon and they both said he was an !@#$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Best news since the Super Bowl years. long overdue. Thank God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: I dont agree with that (once again jmo) A multitude of problems occur with this. - Trading sex for advancement - Holding sex over someones head for the opportunity for advancement - People break up....sometimes its messy.....if someone is willing to date one at a work place they will another.....creating more drama....jobs dont need drama. Add to it even if no trade or holding-over or break-up -voids impartiality of performance reviews for that employee -voids perception of impartiality for other employees who learn of the relationship -creates a giant stinking legal quagmire for business owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Just now, K-GunJimKelly12 said: All I can say is I have known two people, both women that have had interactions with Brandon and they both said he was an !@#$. Regardless of what one thinks about this sexual harassment business, that last word is what describes Brandon best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Robert James said: I'm sure there are defined "outs" in the contract (and some probably cover the conduct alleged here), but specified contractual terms defining the circumstances under which the employee may be fired is the exact opposite of at will. Dude, I said I sit corrected and conceded your point. Do you need a concession speech or ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 hour ago, fridge said: Okay okay okay... the infidelity/workplace misconduct, fine. I'm sorry to hear that, and I'm glad he's gone. But...is anyone else super excited to find out more about the other "job-related issues that were uncovered"? What wild speculation should we run with there? Meddling with the franchises beyond the scope of marketing? Internal threats? Financial shadiness? General snake-like behavior? It sounds like he should have kept his snake-like behavior in his trousers. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, Augie said: Even if you think it’s consensual, or even if it actually IS consensual, it’s just plain dumb. How do I know this? Well, common sense and Russ is gone. Don’t put yourself in that position, or this is what can happen to you. I'd rather play and risk some scrapes and bruises than sit safely on the sideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 hour ago, blacklabel said: People can hate on Brandon all they want but there's something to be said about a guy who can consistently sell out Bills games while in the midst of a 17-year playoff drought and most seasons playing meaningless games by December. Yep - expect a huge drop in attendance in 2018 and beyond once everyone realizes Russ Brandon is no longer in charge. In fact, I expect half of season ticket holders to demand refunds. In case you couldn't tell, I'm being sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieG Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 54 minutes ago, JoeF said: Any intracompany relationship when you are the CEO will be viewed as taking advantage. No matter consensual or not. Its part of the role. You are the company, the entity, the owner's representative, the ultimate operational authority. You approve hiring, firing, promoting. Any relationship that becomes intimate or personal is seen internally and externally as one that could compromise the company and compromise your decision-making ability. If you don't get this -- I am really at a loss for how to explain it other than this. That was an excellent explanation. Great job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: Banging the help and then lying to the Pegs about it. Pretty much confirms what I have suspected about Russ for years...not too bright and a weasel. Good riddens. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, JoeF said: To Kim and Terry--this ruins the good karma of the NHL lottery and the draft...I can see wanting to bask on that for a few days. Stuff like this just doesn't hold. I don’t see it as a total negative. Yes, it’s a terrible thing for the organization and the women involved, but the Pegulas appear to have handled it professionally and hopefully it sends a positive signal to fans that the team’s priorities are correct. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GoBills808 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Rob's House said: I'd rather play and risk some scrapes and bruises than sit safely on the sideline. I've found most guys who get in trouble for workplace harassment can't hack it after hours. They need the captured audience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Dude, I said I sit corrected and conceded your point. Do you need a concession speech or ? Nope, just being clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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