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4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

They are talking about him on Golic & Wingo right now. They are sending him gifts because he’s their “Mr. Irrelevant”. They said Trey Quinn is actually relevant now that he’s “Mr Irrelevant” and gets a rolex, etc. So they said Proehl is the real irrelevant as the penultimate pick in the draft. 

 

Couldn't Bills trade down 1 pick :D

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On 4/28/2018 at 6:02 PM, Jpsredemption said:

I posted my mock. 

Dude, I don´t know what you want to redeem about, but looking at your atrocious posts, I don't want to be anywhere near to any mock draft you draw !:wub:

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On 4/30/2018 at 7:16 PM, Buffalo716 said:

Matt Stafford was under 60% as a passer in college also

Add 1.3 completions per game to Allen’s stats to compensate for drops and his completion % rises to a respectable 62.8%

thats only 1.3 completions per game... it’s like he needed 100 completions to reach 60%

he was 1 completion a game off. While running for his life in a pro style offense

he was my #4 QB but he can easily become a superstar 

 

God Bless You, my son.  I don't want to rain on your parade, but you sound uncanny like me a few years back. 

 

The year was 2010.  Chan Gailey was Head Coach. 

Ryan Fitzpatrick took over from Trentative Edwards and finished the season with 57.8% completions, 3000 yds, 23 TD, and 15 INT

 

I swear to God, I made a post JUST LIKE THIS where I argued that only 1.3 completions per game added to Fitzpatrick's total would bring him up over 60%.

Relative to the other QB we'd seen recently, he had such promise.  He only needed a few more completions and a few less INTs.  Ah, the memories.

 

I believed that at the time. Oh, the beatings I took!  The insults that were aimed at me!  And 2 seasons later, the Crow Pie was served warm, with a well-seasoned gravy and the meat flaking gently off the bone.

 

God Bless You, and bring you, and me, and every one of us to a different conclusion some years down the road.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

God Bless You, my son.  I don't want to rain on your parade, but you sound uncanny like me a few years back. 

 

The year was 2010.  Chan Gailey was Head Coach. 

Ryan Fitzpatrick took over from Trentative Edwards and finished the season with 57.8% completions, 3000 yds, 23 TD, and 15 INT

 

I swear to God, I made a post JUST LIKE THIS where I argued that only 1.3 completions per game added to Fitzpatrick's total would bring him up over 60%.

Relative to the other QB we'd seen recently, he had such promise.  He only needed a few more completions and a few less INTs.  Ah, the memories.

 

I believed that at the time. Oh, the beatings I took!  The insults that were aimed at me!  And 2 seasons later, the Crow Pie was served warm, with a well-seasoned gravy and the meat flaking gently off the bone.

 

God Bless You, and bring you, and me, and every one of us to a different conclusion some years down the road.

 

 

 

 

May this be the last time Ryan Fitzgibbons' and Josh Allen's careers are ever compared to one other, unless the gist of the comparison is "they are nothing alike."

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4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

God Bless You, my son.  I don't want to rain on your parade, but you sound uncanny like me a few years back. 

 

The year was 2010.  Chan Gailey was Head Coach. 

Ryan Fitzpatrick took over from Trentative Edwards and finished the season with 57.8% completions, 3000 yds, 23 TD, and 15 INT

 

I swear to God, I made a post JUST LIKE THIS where I argued that only 1.3 completions per game added to Fitzpatrick's total would bring him up over 60%.

Relative to the other QB we'd seen recently, he had such promise.  He only needed a few more completions and a few less INTs.  Ah, the memories.

 

I believed that at the time. Oh, the beatings I took!  The insults that were aimed at me!  And 2 seasons later, the Crow Pie was served warm, with a well-seasoned gravy and the meat flaking gently off the bone.

 

God Bless You, and bring you, and me, and every one of us to a different conclusion some years down the road.

 

 

 

 

I may be accused of being a “homer” 

 

maybe my pre draft evaluations are only valid...

 

who knows... I’m definitely Bills biased and can spin a positive any way ?

 

Before the draft I was heavily critical of Allen even though I was aware of his special potential. I don’t think I’ve said 1 bad word about him since we drafted him

 

i back all our players like that

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18 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

God Bless You, my son.  I don't want to rain on your parade, but you sound uncanny like me a few years back. 

 

The year was 2010.  Chan Gailey was Head Coach. 

Ryan Fitzpatrick took over from Trentative Edwards and finished the season with 57.8% completions, 3000 yds, 23 TD, and 15 INT

 

I swear to God, I made a post JUST LIKE THIS where I argued that only 1.3 completions per game added to Fitzpatrick's total would bring him up over 60%.

Relative to the other QB we'd seen recently, he had such promise.  He only needed a few more completions and a few less INTs.  Ah, the memories.

 

I believed that at the time. Oh, the beatings I took!  The insults that were aimed at me!  And 2 seasons later, the Crow Pie was served warm, with a well-seasoned gravy and the meat flaking gently off the bone.

 

God Bless You, and bring you, and me, and every one of us to a different conclusion some years down the road.

 

 

 

Yep and if Allen had all of the other traits of Fitzy, he would have been drafted in the 7th round as well. Fortunately, Allen is .1 sec. faster, 3 inches taller, can throw the ball farther and harder than any other human that has ever been drafted. Completion Percentage maybe the one comparable at this point but it's certainly the only one.

But since this is the Austin Proehl thread and me living in NC and watching a ton of the kid, IMO I could safely assume if Austin Proel played for the Wyoming Cowboys, Josh Allen would have a completion percentage well over his 56.6%. I think he makes the squad.

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22 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I may be accused of being a “homer” 

maybe my pre draft evaluations are only valid...

who knows... I’m definitely Bills biased and can spin a positive any way ?

Before the draft I was heavily critical of Allen even though I was aware of his special potential. I don’t think I’ve said 1 bad word about him since we drafted him

i back all our players like that

 

I know, I know, Good on Ya......it was just a shot to my heart, because swear to God I once made a post that was eerie, it was so like that.

I so badly at the time, wanted to be right then, and I so badly want you to be right now!!!!

 

 

2 minutes ago, Bills Pimpin' said:

Yep and if Allen had all of the other traits of Fitzy, he would have been drafted in the 7th round as well.

 

I was not trying to compare Allen and Fitzy.   Sorry for the confusion, but there's really no need to bring him in there and seriously expound upon difference in talents and draft round and so forth.

 

The point was comparing a post I once made, making almost exactly the same calculations with exactly the same conclusions about how just a pass or two would bump his completion percentage up.

 

I was having a TBD "acid flashback" or something.

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1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I know, I know, Good on Ya......it was just a shot to my heart, because swear to God I once made a post that was eerie, it was so like that.

I so badly at the time, wanted to be right then, and I so badly want you to be right now!!!!

 

 

 

If it’s any consolation Fitz really isn’t a bad QB. He a 10 year veteran who has been a starter.

 

coming from a 7th round pick out of Harvard... Peterman will never come close to the QB Fitz was

 

He did the best he could with his physical limitations 

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Good article today in the Buffalo News - behind the paywall-about Austin and Ricky Proehl.

 

http://buffalonews.com/2018/05/12/inside-the-bills/

 

Here is a Ricky Proehl quote from the article, that I really enjoyed seeing....

 

Ricky would have been happy with his son joining any team, but admits it’s much sweeter that it’s the Bills who called.

"I knew Sean would be a head coach,” Ricky Proehl said. “He gets it. He understands players, he understands how to put people in position to be successful. Guys respect him. They love playing for him. He and Brandon are creating a culture that's conducive to winning, so when your son has a chance to play for that kind of coach and that kind of management, it's exciting.”

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I think Proehl has some talent. I think he has a decent chance to make the team. 

 

That said, what I don’t think is going to happen is Ray Ray, selected ahead of him, Proehl, and zay all making the 53. 

 

I think they are going to use Ray Ray as a Wr, RB, gadget guy, but I don’t think 6 wr are going to have 3 slot guys which is pretty much what McCloud, Proehl and Zay are. 

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3 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

I think Proehl has some talent. I think he has a decent chance to make the team. 

 

That said, what I don’t think is going to happen is Ray Ray, selected ahead of him, Proehl, and zay all making the 53. 

 

I think they are going to use Ray Ray as a Wr, RB, gadget guy, but I don’t think 6 wr are going to have 3 slot guys which is pretty much what McCloud, Proehl and Zay are. 

Good observation Kelly.  Kerley is also more of a slot.    I keep looking at Patriots plays.  There are lots of plays where 2 guys considered traditional slots are on the field at the same time...Amendola and Edelman for example.   This one is a trick play but that formation is fairly common with a traditional slot guy on the outside.  On this play, Gronk is essentially pass protection, but I wonder if Daboll is loading up on slots to run "picks", screens and other easy throw plays....

 

 

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7 minutes ago, JoeF said:

Good observation Kelly.  Kerley is also more of a slot.    I keep looking at Patriots plays.  There are lots of plays where 2 guys considered traditional slots are on the field at the same time...Amendola and Edelman for example.   This one is a trick play but that formation is fairly common with a traditional slot guy on the outside.  On this play, Gronk is essentially pass protection, but I wonder if Daboll is loading up on slots to run "picks", screens and other easy throw plays....

 

 

Yep. I didn’t forget about Kerley but you’re right I should have mentioned him. To me, only Benjamin and Zay are locks to make the team. The third most likely guy would be Kerley. He used to be pretty damn good. Now not so much but decent. Compared to the rest of the league our WR are terrible. 

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