MAJBobby Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Josh Allen will always be compared to Mahomes, Watson and Rosen. So Hope Bills are right. Just now, OJABBA said: In English this time.. Its ok. I get it. A fake statement from Rosen is the snobby type of way. Kelly is just a dumb jock way of saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 24 minutes ago, The Virginian said: One thing to consider about Josh is that he worked in a pro-style offense at Wyoming. He went under center and used the five and seven step drop. He's mobile, athletic, and very hard worker. Getting to the NFL is a lifetime dream of his. He's overcome a lot of obstacles to get where he's at including no offers out of high school and only two offers out of junior college. Fortunately for him and Wyoming, Coach Craig Bohl and his OC Brent Vigen saw something in Josh. And oh, by the way, they are the same coaches that recruited Carson Wentz to North Dakota State. Josh is a high character guy which you saw how he owned up to the racially tinged tweets he made in high school, no excuses and his apology was sincere. He's a great leader. His teammates at Wyoming loved him and played hard for him. And for what's it worth he completed his degree at Wyoming. As a University of Wyoming alumnus and Cowboys fan, I acknowledge I'm biased. But believe me, you're getting a good guy and he'll do everything in his power to help his team win. Thanks for your input and welcome to the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, JohnC said: I'm sorry to say that I again respectfully disagree with your take that Marrone was the one who benefited from the EJ benching. It was the right decision because it was based on not only the immediate performance but it was the right decision as a long-term decision. Delaying on making a conclusive decision on EJ wasn't going to help the organization; it was going to further set back the organization. It is easy to say that Marrone is not a very sympathetic person. However, even vile people can be harshly right. For me there is no disputing the fact that Marrone was right on the EJ issue and Whaley was wrong. It became a fatal decision that contributed to and expedited his departure from the organization. So I think it did delay the decision. I think the quicker way to the decision was let him play out. Instead we wasted a 3rd of the following preseason on it. Look I understand why Marrone made the move. I have been a head coach in a different sport I understand the pressure to make changes when you are losing and the Houston game was absolutely benchable. But what did the organisation actually gain from 12 games of a semi retired Kyle Orton? I would argue nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 The White Cardale. Hope I'm wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: Josh Allen will always be compared to Mahomes, Watson and Rosen. So Hope Bills are right. No one compares Allen to Rosen - they compare him to Cam Newton and Wentz. But I get what you mean, more "measured against." We all hope the Bills are right. Love what they did tonight - went and got their boy. And I bet he "compares" very favorable to Rosen. Wish him and the Cards well, but I don't think that it ends well for Rosen. I don't think he survives long in the NFL. Holds the ball and twice concussed in a year. And that is giving him the benefit of the doubt on the off-field criticisms he has faced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Drafting Allen is the easier part. Surrounding this guy with proper coaching and an offensive team suitable for winning is the hard part. Beane has a lot of work to do. We've got the rest of this draft, next years draft and significant cap next year to accomplish it. Good decisions from here are just as important as drafting the QB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, MarlinTheMagician said: No one compares Allen to Rosen - they compare him to Cam Newton and Wentz. But I get what you mean, more "measured against." We all hope the Bills are right. Love what they did tonight - went and got their boy. And I bet he "compares" very favorable to Rosen. Wish him and the Cards well, but I don't think that it ends well for Rosen. I don't think he survives long in the NFL. Holds the ball and twice concussed in a year. And that is giving him the benefit of the doubt on the off-field criticisms he has faced. They will at this point. Allen needs to be better than Mahomes, Watson and Rosen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, White Linen said: Drafting Allen is the easier part. Surrounding this guy with proper coaching and an offensive team suitable for winning is the hard part. Beane has a lot of work to do. We've got the rest of this draft, next years draft and significant cap next year to accomplish it. Good decisions from here are just as important as drafting the QB. Good post. Development is the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Unlike many I like Allen as a prospect and always regarded him as a legitimate first round QB. But he's not a guy I would trade up for and I'm having a hard time with Beane passing on Rosen. I mean we now have to hope that Allen will be able to do the things that Rosen already excels at doing. So why not go for the finished product who has already proven that he can do what you can only hope Allen can accomplish? It's taking on a lot of risk for relatively little additional upside. I mean the extra arm strength and mobility is definitely a nice to have but these guys are both pocket passers and Rosen is by far the best one in this class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Josh Allen will always be compared to Mahomes, Watson and Rosen. So Hope Bills are right. Its ok. I get it. A fake statement from Rosen is the snobby type of way. Kelly is just a dumb jock way of saying something. No. The fake quote is not it. I have prior posts about Rosen. I live in LA, and have heard bad things about him. And even his coach threw him under the bus. Him being a prick is not recent news. Kelly was an arrogant hick, trying to act "big time", eventually he got over it. Rosen may mature too, but they are not similar people. Kelly never had his toughness questioned. Kelly was popular with his coaches and teammates. Rosen is considered "individualistic", and to have a mentality better suited to an individual sport (like tennis, the sport he originally trained for, before an injury made him change course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: They will at this point. Allen needs to be better than Mahomes, Watson and Rosen Meh, this is wrong. Allen has nothing to do with Mahomes and Watson. If Bills made a mistake passing on either of them that is not on Josh Allen. And Rosen - Bills picked Allen over him and I trust the judgment of Beane and McDermott. I agree with their view, and do not believe Rosen will have a long NFL career. But now that we escaped him, I don't give a crap about Rosen other than to wish him well. But for Bills fans everything about Rosen is so March 2018. Train has left the station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: They will at this point. Allen needs to be better than Mahomes, Watson and Rosen The Bills GM and coaches also need to be better than the Chiefs, Texans and Cardinals. I know you know this but it's so critical and has to be said. It's much more than just comparing QB to QB. The organization has to make smart, important decisions around Allen. This to me, is the reason I'm excited about this QB selection - my faith in the Bills to get all the other things right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, OJABBA said: No. The fake quote is not it. I have prior posts about Rosen. I live in LA, and have heard bad things about him. And even his coach threw him under the bus. Him being a prick is not recent news. Kelly was an arrogant hick, trying to act "big time", eventually he got over it. Rosen may mature too, but they are not similar people. Kelly never had his toughness questioned. Kelly was popular with his coaches and teammates. Rosen is considered "individualistic", and to have a mentality better suited to an individual sport (like tennis, the sport he originally trained for, before an injury made him change course). And yet no proof of any of it cool. Ooo and Mora routinely throws his player under buses but i am sure you know that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: And yet no proof of any of it cool. Ooo and Mora routinely throws his player under buses but i am sure you know that too. True, I have only hearsay. Unlike you, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, MarlinTheMagician said: Meh, this is wrong. Allen has nothing to do with Mahomes and Watson. If Bills made a mistake passing on either of them that is not on Josh Allen. And Rosen - Bills picked Allen over him and I trust the judgment of Beane and McDermott. I agree with their view, and do not believe Rosen will have a long NFL career. But now that we escaped him, I don't give a crap about Rosen other than to wish him well. But for Bills fans everything about Rosen is so March 2018. Train has left the station. This regime has passed on Mahomes, Watson and Rosen so yes it goes right to their judgment if the other three turn out better so yes they will all be linked from this point forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, White Linen said: The Bills GM and coaches also need to be better than the Chiefs, Texans and Cardinals. I know you know this but it's so critical and has to be said. It's much more than just comparing QB to QB. The organization has to make smart, important decisions around Allen. This to me, is the reason I'm excited about this QB selection - my faith in the Bills to get all the other things right. Right on. These guys are pros. Edmunds helps prove your point even though he is on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, OJABBA said: True, I have only hearsay. Unlike you, huh? I proved EVERYTHING JK said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Josh Allen is an amazing talent. We are more than lucky to have him. Off the chart physical skills, smart, hard worker, great teammate, unlimited ceiling. We are very lucky to get him at 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, MarlinTheMagician said: Josh Allen is an amazing talent. We are more than lucky to have him. Off the chart physical skills, smart, hard worker, great teammate, unlimited ceiling. We are very lucky to get him at 7. Yeah hope he just learns how to throw the ball accurately. Kind of important from the QB position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: I proved EVERYTHING JK said Yeah, and Rosen had to do an interview tour specifically to dispel "questions about his character", so his big mouth has already been a problem. It's all in my imagination, though. I don't really care if you want to crusade against Allen. We shall see, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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