DriveFor1Outta5 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 25 minutes ago, 416BillsFan said: The tweats themselves I can chalk up to idiotic teenager behavior. The fact that he wasn't smart enough not to scrub them (way) before the draft process is a huge red flag. That Tom Condon didn't order an employee to look through Allen's social media months ago though is the biggest surprise by far. I agree, what shouldn’t be forgotten is his completion percentage. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 High School... I sure many of us did WAY worse when we were there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 at least he could have pick a good one like White Riot by the Clash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, MAJBobby said: They said the same thing about Tim Tebow. And???? What they actually said about Tebow was that because he was trying to improve his mechanics he wouldn't be throwing at the combine. See the difference there ... Allen had already improved by the Senior Bowl and again at the combine? Then later they said Tebow's with the Broncos and trying to fix his mechanics. Then two or three more times they said he was working on his mechanics, but he was still working on it years later, well after it became obvious that he did have accuracy problems but that his main problem wasn't so much his accuracy but more an inability to go through progressions and make good decisions You know who else they said had improved their mechanics? Tom Brady. And Aaron Rodgers too. Plenty of very successful others as well. Look, your argument has been butt stupid from the beginning. I said he'd improved. You denied that, which was just stupid. It's something everyone who's looked at him progress through the offseason has said. It's a fact, he's improved. I had gone out of my way to say that his improvement didn't prove that he would be a success. That it still had to stick and it might not, but that he had absolutely improved. And now you're trying to make a point by pointing out that some guys who improved didn't succeed? Wow, if I hadn't already said that, you'd really have made a point against me. You've lost this argument already. The point you made was that he hadn't improved. Which is wrong. Now you're trying to switch the ground of the argument, a loser's argument, but you're also switching it to say something I've already said. Hard to lose an argument more conclusively than that. All I've said is that he'd clearly improved, and that that didn't prove he would succeed but that plenty of guys who'd wanted to improve their accuracy by working on their mechanics had never really showed improvement. Allen has. If you want to reply to me, disagree with some of this. There are some perfectly reasonable arguments against Allen. This isn't one of them. Nor are the tweets unless he turns out to actually be a racist rather than to have said something stupid one time while 16. Edited April 26, 2018 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Josh Allen is a bust. I don't care about his tweets. He sucks anyway. He should go undrafted. Allen played in a weak @$$ conference with weak stats. He's a camp arm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 29 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: What they actually said about Tebow was that because he was trying to improve his mechanics he wouldn't be throwing at the combine. See the difference there ... Allen had already improved by the Senior Bowl and again at the combine? Then later they said Tebow's with the Broncos and trying to fix his mechanics. Then two or three more times they said he was working on his mechanics, but he was still working on it years later, well after it became obvious that he did have accuracy problems but that his main problem wasn't so much his accuracy but more an inability to go through progressions and make good decisions You know who else they said had improved their mechanics? Tom Brady. And Aaron Rodgers too. Plenty of very successful others as well. Look, your argument has been butt stupid from the beginning. I said he'd improved. You denied that, which was just stupid. It's something everyone who's looked at him progress through the offseason has said. It's a fact, he's improved. I had gone out of my way to say that his improvement didn't prove that he would be a success. That it still had to stick and it might not, but that he had absolutely improved. And now you're trying to make a point by pointing out that some guys who improved didn't succeed? Wow, if I hadn't already said that, you'd really have made a point against me. You've lost this argument already. The point you made was that he hadn't improved. Which is wrong. Now you're trying to switch the ground of the argument, a loser's argument, but you're also switching it to say something I've already said. Hard to lose an argument more conclusively than that. All I've said is that he'd clearly improved, and that that didn't prove he would succeed but that plenty of guys who'd wanted to improve their accuracy by working on their mechanics had never really showed improvement. Allen has. If you want to reply to me, disagree with some of this. There are some perfectly reasonable arguments against Allen. This isn't one of them. Nor are the tweets unless he turns out to actually be a racist rather than to have said something stupid one time while 16. There is absolutely ZERO way to say he as improved until people are in pads and coming at him at football speed not in shorts in a controlled environment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 "I won't have Twitter or Facebook or anything..." Blah, blah, blah. How about you just don't write crap you're going to be embarrassed by? How about know who you want to be and act in that way? And be accountable if you don't -- rather than blame the platform on which you showed your ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I don't see what the big deal is, Allen was talking about X-Mas. He's absolutely right, if it's not white on Christmas it's not right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Once again, Casserly is acting like this tweet happened yesterday. It was 6 years ago and Allen was 16 at the time. BFD!!!!! Shouldn't even need to be addressed to the team or media. Edited April 26, 2018 by LabattBlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just now, LabattBlue said: Not being real if you don't think the team and Allen himself will be asked about this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) UH - OH you just can't say white ...he will never be able to pull a joy reid, neither the left : OMGOMGOMGOMGOMOMGOMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BOOM>>>>>heads esplodin GAIS LETS GET HIM ! Edited April 26, 2018 by Albwan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Not being real if you don't think the team and Allen himself will be asked about this. I didn't say that. I said it "shouldn't" have to be addressed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just now, LabattBlue said: I didn't say that. I said it "shouldn't" have to be addressed. It is what it is. Temporary hiccup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Allen scares me. If this is what it takes to get us to pass, I’m glad it came out. (Not that this will matter.) If we do end up drafting Allen (as D. Jeremiah and Mayock currently predict), I’ll pray that there’s a big serving of crow in my future. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Well at least it wasn't Josh with this racist prom proposal to his High school GF. https://heavy.com/news/2018/04/noah-crowley-isabella-vinalli-racist-promposal/?b2np=d 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Irv Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 PR nightmare for the NFL and the Browns if he goes #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Irv said: PR nightmare for the NFL and the Browns if he goes #1 Not really, but feel free to overreact. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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