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Sean Payton doesn't see an Andrew Luck or Carson Wentz in this draft

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3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Who is the Bills QB in your mock and where do we draft him?

Rosen at 2. Gave up 12,22 and next year’s 1st.  Not sure how realistic but I’m sticking with it.

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58 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I have them trading up for mayfield in my mock (but only to 17)

 

his system is already set up for him 

 

but “Bourbon St. Baker” might have zero chill

Makes a ton of sense.  Besides Brees, they had Daniel (possibly the best qb Payton has drafted). 

 

I remember going to Bourbon Street my first time during the NCAAs one year.  I’ve seen/ experience a lot but man, Bourbon street is something else.  Even crazier was BYU was in the tournament then and seeing Mormons who can’t drink caffeine was wild. 

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1 hour ago, gobills1212 said:

So you want to base our teams decisions on what the coach in NO says TO THE MEDIA during smoke season?

Egads!

RELAX ...  I found a story and I posted it.  

 

IF what an experienced and successful HC said is actually true then my latter statement stands.  (Actually it has stood solid for months now) - do not over pay for a  draft pick who may not work out)  

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Carson Wentz wasn't Carson Wentz in his own draft. He was a mid to high first round prospect, not a can't miss.

 

Revisionist history by draft hacks. Don't jump on the Wentz train if you weren't with us from the start.

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3 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

http://www.espn.com/blog/new-orleans-saints/post/_/id/29865/sean-payton-doesnt-see-an-andrew-luck-or-carson-wentz-in-this-years-draft

 

If Sean Payton doesn't see an Andrew Luck or Carson Wentz in this draft ---  if what he says is true then we definitely should not over spend any draft capitol 

discuss. 

 

 

Shady... is this a desperate cry for attention?

 

Does anyone give a damn what a Head Coach who already has his Franchise QB says about this QB class?

 

'Tis the season of smoke and mirrors, folks...

 

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meh, Sean Payton and most people didn't see a Carson Wentz in Carson Wentz. 

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2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Rosen at 2. Gave up 12,22 and next year’s 1st.  Not sure how realistic but I’m sticking with it.

 

Completely and ridiculously unrealistic.

 

We're going to need to give up more than that to get to #2.

 

At least one of our 2nds from this year, too... maybe even a 3rd.

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3 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

RELAX ...  I found a story and I posted it.  

 

IF what an experienced and successful HC said is actually true then my latter statement stands.  (Actually it has stood solid for months now) - do not over pay for a  draft pick who may not work out)  

No one is unrelaxed. I simply asked a question. 

It's not even a crazy question as other people seem to have posed the same one I did.

Maybe the way you framed the question is the issue.  With respect, my initial answer was the most common answer in the thread. That should tell you all you need to know.

I'm all for people posting articles, but people take away what they will. The additional question is prob the downfall if there is deemed to be one.

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1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Shady... is this a desperate cry for attention?

 

Does anyone give a damn what a Head Coach who already has his Franchise QB says about this QB class?

 

'Tis the season of smoke and mirrors, folks...

 

This is the first thread I created in 2 weeks.  Am I looking for attention?  LOL.   Hell I was surprised it got so much attention.  

 

WHY did I post it?    

 

1) This thread is not the same Mock Draft crocks for threads that have been opened.  

 

2). If it is realistic it should be a warning to the couch GM’s here.   

 

Does anyone care?  I am sure some do.  

 

 

1 hour ago, gobills1212 said:

No one is unrelated. I simply asked a question. 

It's not even a crazy question as other people seem to have posed the same one.

Maybe the way you framed the question is the issue.  With respect, my initial answer was the most common answer in the thread. That should tell you all you need to know.

I'm all for people posting articles, but people take away what they will. The additional question is prob the downfall of there is deemed to be one.

Yes people are dismissing it and I don’t blame them.  

 

Again IF it has merit it shouldn’t be just tossed in the trash.  

 

See how well it is being “discussed “. 

 

 

 

At first it seemed to me like you were blaming me for the story.   I just posted it.   

 

My comment was to be wary about overpaying for a qb.  

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54 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

This is the first thread I created in 2 weeks.  Am I looking for attention?  LOL.   Hell I was surprised it got so much attention.  

 

WHY did I post it?    

 

1) This thread is not the same Mock Draft crocks for threads that have been opened.  

 

2). If it is realistic it should be a warning to the couch GM’s here.   

 

Does anyone care?  I am sure some do.  

 

 

Yes people are dismissing it and I don’t blame them.  

 

Again IF it has merit it shouldn’t be just tossed in the trash.  

 

See how well it is being “discussed “. 

 

 

 

At first it seemed to me like you were blaming me for the story.   I just posted it.   

 

My comment was to be wary about overpaying for a qb.  

I get it.

I disagree with your comment.

I disagree with basing ANY opinion on what a coach on another team says who has a stake in a qb falling to them. 

The article is the article and I thank you for the read.

I was simply saying I think the issue is that you seemed to put stock in it and asked people if they agree. 

It's why you garnered the responses you did.

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Why is everyone over analyzing every statement by every person as if anyone is actually telling the truth.

 

I mean what do you expect a HC to say who might be in the market for a QB?  That so and so is the next Brees and we must go get him?  I mean, they are not going to tip their hand, especially given Brees is nearing the end of his career and they could see a guy like Mason or Lamar later in the first as possible targets.  So of course they are going to play it down rather than try and put any buzz behind a guy they want to fall to them.  

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I mean how much digging around do you think Payton did? The guy doesn’t need a qb and he has plenty of other things to concern himself with. 

 

Sorry if this news news doesn’t mean anything to me. 

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6 hours ago, BillsFan17 said:

Terrific Payton is who I should use to base my future with. A guy who inherited a franchise Hall of Fame QB. Then had knowledge of his staff paying players to hurt others.

 

Im not sure if aggressively targeting a free agent is “inheriting” and I’m also not sure drew was projected to be a HOF candidate at that point. 

 

Also, I’m sure that pools were that rare. Somewhere upwards of about 25 teams had ties to players that said “so what, everyone does that stuff” 

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7 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said:

I mean how much digging around do you think Payton did? The guy doesn’t need a qb and he has plenty of other things to concern himself with. 

 

Sorry if this news news doesn’t mean anything to me. 

This post is like the Mavis Discount Tire radio spot.

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Sean Peyton's ability to accurately judge QB talent is no better than anyone else's.


Assuming he's actually telling the truth.

 

I would disregard this crap and just wait for the draft.  See what happens.

 

 

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1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

This is the first thread I created in 2 weeks.  Am I looking for attention?  LOL.   Hell I was surprised it got so much attention.  

 

WHY did I post it?    

 

1) This thread is not the same Mock Draft crocks for threads that have been opened.  

 

2). If it is realistic it should be a warning to the couch GM’s here.   

 

Does anyone care?  I am sure some do.  

 

So, you thought a quote coming less than 2 weeks before the draft by a Head Coach who is drafting late in the 1st round and in no position to draft any of the top QBs, but is probably ready to pounce on any potential QB who falls to him as his eventual replacement has any credibility whatsoever?

 

C'mon man. 

 

This isn't even Bills worthy.

 

It should be in some other "Around the NFL" forum.

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He knows he can’t get one 

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25 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said:

I mean how much digging around do you think Payton did? The guy doesn’t need a qb and he has plenty of other things to concern himself with. 

 

Sorry if this news news doesn’t mean anything to me. 

Granted it could all be mumbo jumbo.   

 

I will add that while the Saints may not need on this year they may need one maybe next year or 2020.  

 

 

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4 hours ago, jmc12290 said:

Don't jump on the Wentz train if you weren't with us from the start.

 

I was somewhat on the 'Wentz wagon' the summer before his senior year. I got receipts too :D

 

 

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6 hours ago, Lurker said:

 

Yep.   Better to use message board "experts" who have all the answers?   :lol:

 

Yes. If they had listened to them we would have had our franchise QB John Skelton years ago!

 

[ I think that the board change to new software was a way to bury the bodies on that foobar ]

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9 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

So, you thought a quote coming less than 2 weeks before the draft by a Head Coach who is drafting late in the 1st round and in no position to draft any of the top QBs, but is probably ready to pounce on any potential QB who falls to him as his eventual replacement has any credibility whatsoever?

 

C'mon man. 

 

This isn't even Bills worthy.

 

It should be in some other "Around the NFL" forum.

Me thinks you protest too much.  

 

I posted a story and said I wouldn’t want the Bills to spend a lot of cap capital IF what Sean said was true.  

 

Feel free to call Sean Payton out on his perspective.   

 

Feel free to argue my stance on overspending for the group of 5 or 6 QB’s that by the stories written there isn’t a clear front runner or two.  

 

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1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Me thinks you protest too much.  

 

I posted a story and said I wouldn’t want the Bills to spend a lot of cap capital IF what Sean said was true.  

 

Feel free to call Sean Payton out on his perspective.   

 

Feel free to argue my stance on overspending for the group of 5 or 6 QB’s that by the stories written there isn’t a clear front runner or two.  

 

 

I really don't care, actually. 

 

I just find it ironic because you often complain about other people starting useless threads, which this is, or posting them in the wrong forum, which this probably is.

 

But have your fun  :thumbsup:

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45 minutes ago, gobills1212 said:

I get it.

I disagree with your comment.

I disagree with basing ANY opinion on what a coach on another team says who has a stake in a qb falling to them. 

The article is the article and I thank you for the read.

I was simply saying I think the issue is that you seemed to put stock in it and asked people if they agree. 

It's why you garnered the responses you did.

Maybe transplant was right.  I wanted “attention”.   But seriously.  

 

I had an inkling that this would raise some hackles.  

 

Looks like my hunch was right.  

 

 

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