DefenseWins Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2018/04/13/fan-friday-4-13-2/ Bills Draft Strategy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Beebe Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Good column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Happy Friday the 13th Bills fans! The draft is fast approaching. Let’s get to your questions on Twitter at @ChrisBrownBills. 1 – @ChrisBrownBills For a team without a consensus starting QB for the last 22 yrs, does trading up to take 1 of a deep class of QB prospects in the 2018 draft constitute “reaching”? Can Beane/McDermott afford to kick this can down the road? Keith Archie @ASCREEN07 CB: I think we are all of the belief that all the stockpiling of Buffalo’s draft capital, which is at a record level in terms of assets, was not done to add nine players to the roster (their total number of picks). It was done to provide them with the ammunition to get a quarterback in this year’s class. For a plan that has likely been a year in the making, I find it hard to believe that the Bills will not make every attempt to trade up to grab one of the QB prospects they feel is worth the price of moving up the board to select. Although there will be a couple of options in next year’s draft at QB – Auburn’s Jarrett Stidham, Washington’s Jacob Eason, Missouri’s Drew Lock – those players, with the possible exception of Stidham, have to show dramatic improvement on the field in 2018 to be in the same category as the QBs in this class. Now is the time to strike and the Bills have the assets to make it happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Rosen please. I hope they can get Rosen, and still have picks for Warner, Penny, Ragnow, a WR, TE, and OG.... asking for too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just remember when trading all those picks going all in on QB could possibly cost us Ed Oliver next season. Not to mention no quality help at WR, Oline, MLB for a long time. I am just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Pete said: Just remember when trading all those picks going all in on QB could possibly cost us Ed Oliver next season. Not to mention no quality help at WR, Oline, MLB for a long time. I am just saying $100M in salary cap space in 2019 says hello. Edited April 14, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Pete said: Just remember when trading all those picks going all in on QB could possibly cost us Ed Oliver next season. Not to mention no quality help at WR, Oline, MLB for a long time. I am just saying I have yet to see any inference that the cost (potentially) in 2019 would be more than either be a 1st or 2nd rd pick... I am sure we can "survive" giving up whatever picks may be required without crippling this team "For A Long Time" as you seem to be suggesting... Edited April 14, 2018 by DefenseWins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: $100M in salary cap space in 2019 says hello. so build a complete team this draft and overpay for QB next year. Lamar Jackson and MLB, G, WR, C, CB and $100M in 2019 sounds like an incredible future to me for our Bills! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, Pete said: so build a complete team this draft and overpay for QB next year. Lamar Jackson and MLB, G, WR, C, CB and $100M in 2019 sounds like an incredible future to me for our Bills! Like who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, DefenseWins said: I have yet to see any inference that the cost (potentially) in 2019 would either be a 1st or 2nd rd pick at worst... I am sure we can "survive" giving up whatever picks may be required without crippling this team "For A Long Time" as you seem to be suggesting... our oline is a mess, as are our linebackers and wide receivers. We could use CB depth. If we trade both 1s, both 2s, and next years 1(which will be top 5 IMO if we trade all that) that will set back Buffalo 3 years at the very least IMO 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Like who? Lamar Jackson in 2019 Like who in 2019 for C? For G? For WR? For MLB? For OLB? For CB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, Pete said: our oline is a mess, as are our linebackers and wide receivers. We could use CB depth. If we trade both 1s, both 2s, and next years 1(which will be top 5 IMO if we trade all that) that will set back Buffalo 3 years at the very least IMO This is quite the fallacy. It hasn't set back the Eagles who built their team around a QB they paid a King's ransom for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, Pete said: our oline is a mess, as are our linebackers and wide receivers. We could use CB depth. If we trade both 1s, both 2s, and next years 1(which will be top 5 IMO if we trade all that) that will set back Buffalo 3 years at the very least IMO Lamar Jackson in 2019 Like who in 2019 for C? For G? For WR? For MLB? For OLB? For CB? The assumption that we will hit on those draft picks to fill said holes would be premature. Id prefer to take the risk on hitting the QB spot. It’s also an assumption we will not have any quality picks left once trading up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, dlonce said: The assumption that we will hit on those draft picks to fill said holes would be premature. Id prefer to take the risk on hitting the QB spot. It’s also an assumption we will not have any quality picks left once trading up. The reason why they accumulated all of that draft capital is to finally fill the QB void and now some are afraid to spend it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The reason why they accumulated all of that draft capital is to finally fill the QB void and now some are afraid to spend it. I do not understand how any fan of this team, fans of mediocrity at best regarding the QB position, can honestly believe we are better off skipping a QB. This is the year to do it. The strength of this draft by far is QB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wily Dog Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The reason why they accumulated all of that draft capital is to finally fill the QB void and now some are afraid to spend it. Absolutely true ! Why should we be in position to draft a QB with the picks this year and not do it ? Your pink underwear is showing if you are afraid to trade up for a QB . Remember 22years without a franchise QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Like who? Aaron Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Wily Dog said: Absolutely true ! Why should we be in position to draft a QB with the picks this year and not do it ? Your pink underwear is showing if you are afraid to trade up for a QB . Remember 22years without a franchise QB. No need to out anyone. Just now, 3rdand12 said: Aaron Rodgers. Someone is coming to hand you a cup my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Pete said: our oline is a mess, as are our linebackers and wide receivers. We could use CB depth. If we trade both 1s, both 2s, and next years 1(which will be top 5 IMO if we trade all that) that will set back Buffalo 3 years at the very least IMO Lamar Jackson in 2019 Like who in 2019 for C? For G? For WR? For MLB? For OLB? For CB? Lamar Jackson in 2019?? Please explain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, NewEra said: Lamar Jackson in 2019?? Please explain I think he's saying they should draft him in '18 and let him sit behind AJM for a year before starting him in '19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: $100M in salary cap space in 2019 says hello. Will Rosen be Tim Connelly by then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, 4merper4mer said: Will Rosen be Tim Connelly by then? Will you stop with the silliness by then? Nevermind. I know better. BTW, that's a fact! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Will you stop with the silliness by then? Tim Murray criticisms were silly. Greggo Marrone was silly. Cuz Rex Sux was silly. People with 115 threads over 3 years begging for Connor Cook is just fine. I'll stick with silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 There must be a trade finalized. I keep waiting for the trade up hype to calm down but it's going steady. Bills doing nothing to back away either. The disappointment will be massive if they don't trade up. Although I'm not sure what would be more disappointing to the fans. Trading up for Allen or not trading up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, 4merper4mer said: Tim Murray criticisms were silly. Greggo Marrone was silly. Cuz Rex Sux was silly. People with 115 threads over 3 years begging for Connor Cook is just fine. I'll stick with silly. Your critiques are all personality driven because it's certainly not knowledge of football or hockey. Connor Cook was a bum and most everyone knew that except Buffalo Barbarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Your critiques are all personality driven because it's certainly not knowledge of football or hockey. Connor Cook was a bum and most everyone knew that except Buffalo Barbarian. Did Rex suck? Did Marrone turn out caustic and arrogant just like Greggo? Were the criticisms of Murray correct? You defended Murray and Rex. I can't remember your position on Marrone. Your "knowledge" was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I think he's saying they should draft him in '18 and let him sit behind AJM for a year before starting him in '19. Word. I know a lot of people hate on Lamar, I’m not one of them. I’d prefer to trade up for one of the big 3 (not Allen), but I think Jackson could be a dynamic player in this league. Emphasis on could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Just now, NewEra said: Word. I know a lot of people hate on Lamar, I’m not one of them. I’d prefer to trade up for one of the big 3 (not Allen), but I think Jackson could be a dynamic player in this league. Emphasis on could be. He definitely could be after some additional development time. I'm looking for a trade up as well, but Jackson at 12 would be fine with me if the can't pull it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 10 hours ago, dlonce said: The assumption that we will hit on those draft picks to fill said holes would be premature. Id prefer to take the risk on hitting the QB spot. It’s also an assumption we will not have any quality picks left once trading up. you are making the assumption that the QB will not be Blake Bortles or Mark Sanchez. Instead of putting all my eggs in one basket- I keep all my picks and thus have more chances to hit on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 13 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: $100M in salary cap space in 2019 says hello. Much less than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 13 hours ago, Pete said: so build a complete team this draft and overpay for QB next year. Lamar Jackson and MLB, G, WR, C, CB and $100M in 2019 sounds like an incredible future to me for our Bills! Unfortunately that sounds more like a mediocre past because the Bills have been doing that same thing over and over. Settling for Jackson or Rudolph is basically doing the same thing we've been doing for close to 2 decades now and it's yielded one playoff appearance. Time to break from the norm and roll the dice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 14 hours ago, dlonce said: I do not understand how any fan of this team, fans of mediocrity at best regarding the QB position, can honestly believe we are better off skipping a QB. This is the year to do it. The strength of this draft by far is QB. Cowardice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Much less than that The Bills projected 2019 cap space per spotrac is at this moment $63 million. Unless Jerry Hughes has a big season he can be cut for a dead cap amt of $3 million vs his roster cap space of $10 million for 2019 - a potential savings of $7 million to add to the Bills cap space for next year. And the NFL keeps expanding the cap by around $10 million annually. Sounds like a serious potential 2019 cap space of about $80 million to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 hour ago, buffalo2218 said: Unfortunately that sounds more like a mediocre past because the Bills have been doing that same thing over and over. Settling for Jackson or Rudolph is basically doing the same thing we've been doing for close to 2 decades now and it's yielded one playoff appearance. Time to break from the norm and roll the dice And that is exactly correct. Get the QB first, the rest will follow. How many different guards, wide receivers, linebackers, running backs, DTs have the Patriots had over the last decade? It didn't matter they had the quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Just now, Derby Dan said: Green you should stop Stop what? Stating facts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Just now, Derby Dan said: Stop arguing with people This is a discussion board. What don't you get? We argue but respectfully not like you insulting and trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 4 hours ago, Derby Dan said: Green you should stop You should stop. Posting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Derby Dan said: My posts are well thought out and add needed value to the board For the next couple days. Then you’ll be gone. And we can’t wait Edited April 15, 2018 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Derby Dan said: Not going anywhere You’re officially gone for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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