RochesterRob Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: I don't think anyone is implying any sort of deal is in place. But I don't think they'd be flying to LA if they knew there's no shot at him. Maybe but there are certainly those that believe in their mind a deal is in place because it puts them in a little happy place for a short time anyways. Whether they want to announce those thoughts to the world is another matter altogether. If I had to guess there are at least ten people here that believe a deal is already done to move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Stay at 12 and let Allen come to us would be best possible draft outcome All depends on Giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 There has been a rumor that the Browns actually prefer Josh Allen and would draft him at #1. There are rumors that the Giants will not draft a QB at all (as well as rumors the only QB the Giants would draft is Darnold). There are rumors the Jets are focused in on drafting Baker Mayfield. None of that stuff is set in stone, of course, but where there is rumor, there is the possibility of truth ("Where there's smoke, there's fire"). Because there are rumors and the possibility it could happen, Buffalo has to do their due diligence in case Sam Darnold actually does fall. Personally, I don't think Buffalo has enough draft capital to trade up to 4 and then up to 2 as both Cleveland and the Giants would be asking for a premium over the already high price on the draft pick value chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Whatever happens happens. Bills are gonna take who they want and then we'll root for whoever they pick. Unless we don't like him, then some will B word incessantly and root for us to lose and leave at halftime until the new QB is pitched out, we tank, and pick another one and the cycle repeats ... Go BILLS !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 hours ago, #34fan said: True... However, to some people, -me for example. 4 and 12 AND 22 looks even prettier... What if the Browns dig Lamar Jackson more than they let on? I am praying that the Browns take Barkley with the 1st pick and Jackson with the 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 3 hours ago, SouthNYfan said: Giants want Darnold though... I don't think the Giants want Darnold at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Whatever happens happens. Bills are gonna take who they want and then we'll root for whoever they pick. Unless we don't like him, then some will B word incessantly and root for us to lose and leave at halftime until the new QB is pitched out, we tank, and pick another one and the cycle repeats ... Go BILLS !! A tank, or as I prefer to call it "scripted season" has it's merits... Roster-wise, the team is in shambles.. Richie was the latest shoe to drop, and they still haven't addressed the gaps left by Wood and Glenn... You have to wonder how a kid like Darnold will fare in that scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 3 hours ago, H2o said: Not happening. Too many holes to fill to not keep at least a normal slate of picks. Darnold may be just due diligence or there is a possibility he could experience what some would consider a "fall" to make him attainable to us. You can bet your a** though that they will not ransom this whole draft to move up 10 slots. OK, I’ll bet my ass the Bills move up significantly. What are you going to lay on the line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Just now, #34fan said: A tank, or as I prefer to call it "scripted season" has it's merits... Roster-wise, the team is in shambles.. Richie was the latest shoe to drop, and they still haven't addressed the gaps left by Wood and Glenn... You have to wonder how a kid like Darnold will fare in that scenario. That's what everyone said last year. We aint' tankin' or "scripting" a season. We're gonna be winnin'! The drought era is OVER!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 32 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: I don't think the Giants want Darnold at all. That's great that you don't think that. Every bit of news points to them wanting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: That's great that you don't think that. Every bit of news points to them wanting him. So when information comes out this time of year we are to believe it religiously... killer. I mean, I fore one think they will take Darnold, but I'm not going to act like its gospel right now, ya know the biggest misdirection time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 4 hours ago, theRalph said: Some of us are waking at 3AM every day to see if the Bills have further traded up. That hasn't occurred as yet, but a 10-ton hint to this part of "the process" was dropped yesterday when reports surfaced that the Bills' top evaluators would travel to USC to work out Sam Darnold this Friday. When I heard this from Mike Schopp, I was compelled to call to say that the Bills must know they can get to #1 or #2, or why would you spend valuable pre-draft time vetting a QB you've no chance of drafting. Mike agreed, as did morning host Jeremy White this morning. Howard Simon questions, though, how can the Bills get to 1 or 2 from 12? Well, here's a bold prediction: 1. Browns select Josh Allen with the first pick. 2. Browns trade the 4th pick to the Bills with a big price tag. We've all heard what that price might be (12, 22, 53, 65...hopefully not 2019 first rounder also). 3. Bill trade the Giants the 4th pick, plus their remaining 2nd round pick (56) for the #2 pick. 4. Bills select Sam Darnold with the second pick. 5. Jets select one of the remaining QBs with the third pick. 4. Giants either select Bradley Chubb with the fourth pick, or trade down a few slots with any QB hungry team, with the assurance that Chubb will be available at 5, 6, or 7...maybe further. We'll see. it's called, not getting caught with your pants down. simple really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said: I think the people who are saying it means something are implying that if the Browns are sold on Darnold by this point they would be telling him to shut down visits and especially workouts for other teams. If you are picking the guy you don't want him shredding his knee working out for the Jets or Bills. If he is going to shred his knee in non-contact workouts it is bound to happen in training camp if Browns pick him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 4 hours ago, H2o said: Not happening. Too many holes to fill to not keep at least a normal slate of picks. Darnold may be just due diligence or there is a possibility he could experience what some would consider a "fall" to make him attainable to us. You can bet your a** though that they will not ransom this whole draft to move up 10 slots. 12/65 and a 2nd next year....already a done deal with the browns for no. 4...a preliminary deal set up at the tyrod trade. then, we give a 2nd and a 3rd for no.2....that leaves us 22, 1 2nd and 1 3rd......etc (something along these lines) these guys dorsey /gettleman and beane already have this stuff worked out and i don't doubt it for a minute. you think guys that worked as partners in the same office prior , along with long time connections, aren't having open no b.s conversations? i don't.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: Whatever happens happens. Bills are gonna take who they want and then we'll root for whoever they pick. Unless we don't like him, then some will B word incessantly and root for us to lose and leave at halftime until the new QB is pitched out, we tank, and pick another one and the cycle repeats ... Go BILLS !! as long as i don't have to sit in the stands on Sunday and, along with everyone else in the stadium, yell, 'throw the goddamned ball', it's all good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 24 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: So when information comes out this time of year we are to believe it religiously... killer. I mean, I fore one think they will take Darnold, but I'm not going to act like its gospel right now, ya know the biggest misdirection time of year. No, champ, I don't believe information religiously. My statement was in response to somebody saying he didn't believe they want Darnold at all, yet basically every single source of info points to them wanting him, and have been on that page for a while, unlike the Browns who every source has them wanting somebody different . I can think whatever I want though, anybody can. I can say "I think the Bills will be trading for Aaron Rodgers" but that doesn't make it true. You're right, there is a lot of smoke this time of year, and it could be that the Giants really want Barkley, and are trying to goad the Browns into taking darnold #1 so they can get Barkley #2. Hell maybe they want Allen and are trying to push the Browns into taking Darnold first so Allen is available. Hell they might not want any of them and are trying to drive the price up on the #2 pick to trade it. All of that has merit, but I'm going to say that a team with an aging QB might just be going for a guy like Darnold who they can sit a year behind Eli and transition to, he seems like a great fit, and most of the sources I've read seem to think that's the guy they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 4 hours ago, theRalph said: Some of us are waking at 3AM every day to see if the Bills have further traded up. That hasn't occurred as yet, but a 10-ton hint to this part of "the process" was dropped yesterday when reports surfaced that the Bills' top evaluators would travel to USC to work out Sam Darnold this Friday. When I heard this from Mike Schopp, I was compelled to call to say that the Bills must know they can get to #1 or #2, or why would you spend valuable pre-draft time vetting a QB you've no chance of drafting. Mike agreed, as did morning host Jeremy White this morning. Howard Simon questions, though, how can the Bills get to 1 or 2 from 12? Well, here's a bold prediction: 1. Browns select Josh Allen with the first pick. 2. Browns trade the 4th pick to the Bills with a big price tag. We've all heard what that price might be (12, 22, 53, 65...hopefully not 2019 first rounder also). 3. Bill trade the Giants the 4th pick, plus their remaining 2nd round pick (56) for the #2 pick. 4. Bills select Sam Darnold with the second pick. 5. Jets select one of the remaining QBs with the third pick. 4. Giants either select Bradley Chubb with the fourth pick, or trade down a few slots with any QB hungry team, with the assurance that Chubb will be available at 5, 6, or 7...maybe further. We'll see. I pray the they don't do this that would be such a waste !! for one player when they could fill out the roster for the next 4 + yrs with some really good talent ! And now that Incognito is retiring it puts an even bigger burden on drafting for the future because no matter how good the QB is if the front line sucks so will he because he won't have any time to see any thing develop !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 4 hours ago, SouthNYfan said: Giants want Darnold though... You know this how? 3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Why is this so surprising? The Bills do not control their destiny here, so if Darnold drops for some reason do you really expect them to make the Pick without having met with him? Really? I’ll have about 20 Meetings this week for my job. I can imagine that the Bills personnel staff can squeeze one in. Are your meetings of the high level variety? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 57 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: OK, I’ll bet my ass the Bills move up significantly. What are you going to lay on the line? I'm not saying they won't move up. I am saying that if you think they are going to sell their first 3 rounds of the draft and next year's 1st to move up 10 slots for a QB you've lost your mind. It's not happening. If you think they will then you will be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Binghamton Beast said: OK, I’ll bet my ass the Bills move up significantly. What are you going to lay on the line? Why would anyone be interested in your ass? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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