aceman_16 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Little rewind for you. These were pasted all over this board as well http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-blog/index.ssf/2011/10/cleveland_browns_am_links_is_c_1.html http://bleacherreport.com/articles/423099-colt-mccoy-a-side-by-side-comparison-with-saints-qb-drew-brees https://articles.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/04/cleveland_browns_prospect_colt.amp https://articles.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/04/cleveland_browns_prospect_colt.amp Gotcha here Well the word "folks" on THIS board usually implies people from TBD. Moreover, I do not follow the Browns and have no friken idea what they say on their boards (or anyone else's forums for that matter). I guess thank you for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: holy crap I didn't think about this..... I too have a schmidtty jersey and have wanted Mayfield all along. how did this get by me? Buffalo is the only fanbase where punter Jerseys are a thing. I for one love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, elltrain22 said: I see alot of validity to us liking Baker Mayfield for several reasons. He's a 4-year college performer, who won alot, and was a team captain. I think that these player traits are very big to McBeane, and with all their talk about process, mindset, and culture, Mayfield totally fits this criteria. Mayfield is great in the pocket, laser accurate (premium for our decision makers IMO), and can make plays with his feet if need be. He can be had probably as early as 4, but might slide to 7 or 8. This way, we will not have to give up nearly as much as we would to move up to #2. If he slide to #6, and we traded with Indy, we'd probably still have both 2nd's and both 3rd's. McBeane are methodical and smart. They know what the fans want, and I think they care what the fans want, to a certain extent. Not that they will pick Mayfield just to make us happy, but I think its also appealing to them to draft Mayfield b/c it be a great perceived move on their part. These are each good points. But Baker Mayfield is going #1, overall. He will haunt the Bills for years - because the Bills will select Josh Rosen. 5 minutes ago, elltrain22 said: BTW, here are 2 scenario's I could see very much playing out.... Scenario #1 (aggressive & we "get" our guy) 1. Cleveland- Darnold 2. NYG- Chubb/Barkley 3. Jets- Rosen/Allen 4. Cleveland (Trade w/ Bills)- We give up 12, 22, & 53 (2350 value, which is 550 more value points @4 spot). We are taking no chances with Denver. We want either Rosen/Mayfield/Allen (in that order). Scenario #2 (more patient & give up less, and take a chance of Denver passing on a QB) 1. Cleveland- Darnold 2. NYG- Chubb/Barkley 3. Jets- Rosen/Allen 4. Cleveland- Chubb/Barkley 5. Denver- Nelson/Rosen/Allen. Some will say, where's Mayfield, but IMHO, I think if, big if, Denver takes a QB, I believe they covet Rosen/Allen much more than Mayfield. 6. Indy (trade w/ Bills)- We give up 12 & 22 (1980 value vs. 1700 value @ pick 6). We take Mayfield here or possibly Allen or Rosen if they slip. Plus, we still have both 2nd's, and both 3rd's what say you?? You detail, pretty well honestly, all of Baker Mayfield's abilities. Then you think that two teams can't see the same things as you do. I see Mayfield as the #1 QB in the draft and I think most rational eyes would see the same. None of the arguments against him hold water. The only way the Bills get him is if the Browns f up and take Darnold and the Giants are willing to go all the way down to 12. He's gone by the time the 4th pick is called. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Batman1876 said: Buffalo is the only fanbase where punter Jerseys are a thing. I for one love it. I was visually distraught for quite some time last offseason when it was rumored schmidt was in a battle with somebody in the offseason. I had just bought the damn thing in 2016..... I guess i'm off the Mayfield train that I've been on since the dude was a friggin sophomore. Edited March 28, 2018 by Stank_Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickrage Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Hes going to nyj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elltrain22 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: These are each good points. But Baker Mayfield is going #1, overall. He will haunt the Bills for years - because the Bills will select Josh Rosen. You detail, pretty well honestly, all of Baker Mayfield's abilities. Then you think that two teams can't see the same things as you do. I see Mayfield as the #1 QB in the draft and I think most rational eyes would see the same. None of the arguments against him hold water. The only way the Bills get him is if the Browns f up and take Darnold and the Giants are willing to go all the way down to 12. He's gone by the time the 4th pick is called. You might be right, but I think Cleveland will take Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 16 minutes ago, DFT said: Few are more plugged in to Buffalo, than J-White. He’s usually very closely tied. He has some great, great sources. I believe there’s smoke here. I don’t think Baker is their top guy, but I do believe he’s an incredible #2 or fallback option. Baker has been my #1 all along. His attitude problems aren't like Rosen's. His problem is he cares too much about winning and his emotions get the best of him. I'll take that any day over someone that might not even like playing. I think he fits our team and city better than anyone. I bet he would get along very well with McDermott. And we can get him without paying a huge ransom. What am I missing? His height? That's the only real knock I see on him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, HappyDays said: Baker has been my #1 all along. His attitude problems aren't like Rosen's. His problem is he cares too much about winning and his emotions get the best of him. I'll take that any day over someone that might not even like playing. I think he fits our team and city better than anyone. I bet he would get along very well with McDermott. And we can get him without paying a huge ransom. What am I missing? His height? That's the only real knock I see on him. Mayfield's crotch grab is just the college version of Brady yelling at people on the sideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) So let me get this straight, Baker Mayfield fans. Manziel compariaons are "lazy", yet all of you will be quick to compare him to Russell Wilson or Drew Brees based strictly on his height. I'm enjoying the backflips you all are performing to excuse his behavioral flaws...and height. Edited March 28, 2018 by Chicken Boo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, elltrain22 said: You might be right, but I think Cleveland will take Darnold. Maybe; but it will be a mistake they can afford to make. They'll get Barkley three picks later and taking the "safe" QB first overall would be the percentage play. No matter what, with everything else they've accumulated and will accumulate in this draft, they will become the Seattle Seahawks for the next five years. Darnold won't help them remendously, but he won't hurt them either. But the Jets? Get ready to face Baker Mayfield twice a year for the next 10 years. That man's swagger was meant for bright lights. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elltrain22 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, Tyrod's friend said: Maybe; but it will be a mistake they can afford to make. They'll get Barkley three picks later and taking the "safe" QB first overall would be the percentage play. No matter what, with everything else they've accumulated and will accumulate in this draft, they will become the Seattle Seahawks for the next five years. Darnold won't help them remendously, but he won't hurt them either. But the Jets? Get ready to face Baker Mayfield twice a year for the next 10 years. That man's swagger was meant for bright lights. I just wish time would fly, and April 26th was like now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 This would be perfect. The only QB I’d want to take other than Darnold that high. Who knows how true it is, but I just don’t see teams taking someone like Mayfield in the top 5. The Bills get Mayfield and I’m holding a punch and pie party. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 It might be easier to list the QBs the Bills have NOT been rumored to covet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: So let me get this straight, Baker Mayfield fans. Mamziel compariaons are "lazy", but all of you will be quick to compare him to Russell Wilson or Drew Brees based strictly on his height. I'm enjoying the backflips you all are performing to excuse his behavioral flaws...and height. I am not comparing him to anyone. I DO mention portions of his fiery behavior. I do not think I am enough of an "Internet expert/GM" to truly have a comparison opinion of him. I do think clumping all supporters into tiny packages is lazy. Soooo... I deem your post a lazy response and quite narrow in focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: This would be perfect. The only QB I’d want to take other than Darnold that high. Who knows how true it is, but I just don’t see teams taking someone like Mayfield in the top 5. The Bills get Mayfield and I’m holding a punch and pie party. well the 26th is my birthday..... i'm gonna have to email them and ask if its possible, when they select him, if he could jump out of a cake..... birthday suit optional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: I am not comparing him to anyone. I DO mention portions of his fiery behavior. I do not think I am enough of an "Internet expert/GM" to truly have a comparison opinion of him. I do think clumping all supporters into tiny packages is lazy. Soooo... I deem your post a lazy response and quite narrow in focus. Riiiiight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 If drafting a pocket passer is the goal why draft a 6'00 tall QB? The Brees argument doesn't cut it for me as Brees is almost 6"1 and has the arm length of a man who is 6"5. Brees is also a superior athlete to Mayfield with a much stronger work ethic. Smoke screen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 So that makes 4 for 4. 1st it was Darnold, then Rosen, then Allen, and now Mayfield. Crazy thing is they are all so different. Darnold the mobile raw pocket QB. Allen the physical freak that struggles mentally. Rosen the pure pocket passer. Mayfield the accurate small QB with special intangibles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 minute ago, auburnbillsbacker said: If drafting a pocket passer is the goal why draft a 6'00 tall QB? The Brees argument doesn't cut it for me as Brees is almost 6"1 and has the arm length of a man who is 6"5. Brees is also a superior athlete to Mayfield with a much stronger work ethic. Smoke screen? the bolded is literally not supported by anything..... I would argue Mayfield up to this point in his career has displayed way better athleticism than brees up to that point at purdue..... and Mayfield WALKED ON at 2 different schools. that takes seriously work ethic. you've shown how much you know about the guy. that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: Manziel compariaons are "lazy", Yes 14 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: all of you will be quick to compare him to Russell Wilson or Drew Brees based strictly on his height. No Edited March 28, 2018 by HappyDays 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts