yungmack Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Thanks for all your work, man. Your comments are insightful and definitely clarify my own senze of these guys. I think I'd go with Darnold over Rosen though, after watching every game they played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 ........So GB and Bandit Rosen...both say Top 5 Darnold .....Bandit top 5 potentia,l GB mid first Mayfield...Band top 10, GB mid-late first Allen...Band top 10, GB 3rd.....Hmmm Rudolph...Band 2nd rd, GB late first,second Jackson...Band late first,GB Mid second It looks like reasonably good consensus other than Allen who is the wildcard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wily Dog Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Great Job Gunner, now the fun begins. Allen is the wild card in the draft, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Just now, Wily Dog said: Great Job Gunner, now the fun begins. Allen is the wild card in the draft, Going by what our experts say: For the Bills I'm going 1. Rosen 2. Darnold 3. Mayfield No change for me in the top half of round 1, that is how I've been Jackson and Rudolph are fit questions in late first or second But where does Allen go? before these guys or after? Does he go amongst the Big 3? It will be interesting to say the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 32 minutes ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: So what you’re saying is that we shouldn’t have any problem grabbing a top QB this year.. I don't do film observation, so I wouldn't presume to critique the work that Gunner has done, but his grade on where these QBs should be drafted has zero impact on where they will be drafted. The incredible need that NFL teams have to find the right quarterback when there are not enough to go around results in them being drafted far higher than grades based solely on their mechanics, measurables and college production might suggest for a draft position. I'm pretty sure Gunner would agree with that too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wily Dog Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, TigerJ said: I don't do film observation, so I wouldn't presume to critique the work that Gunner has done, but his grade on where these QBs should be drafted has zero impact on where they will be drafted. The incredible need that NFL teams have to find the right quarterback when there are not enough to go around results in them being drafted far higher than grades based solely on their mechanics, measurables and college production might suggest for a draft position. I'm pretty sure Gunner would agree with that too. That is a given, I wouldn't be surprised if 4 go in the top 5 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 31 minutes ago, TigerJ said: I don't do film observation, so I wouldn't presume to critique the work that Gunner has done, but his grade on where these QBs should be drafted has zero impact on where they will be drafted. The incredible need that NFL teams have to find the right quarterback when there are not enough to go around results in them being drafted far higher than grades based solely on their mechanics, measurables and college production might suggest for a draft position. I'm pretty sure Gunner would agree with that too. I’m not critiquing his work, just kinda curious on where he thinks they’ll fall. I’m hoping GMs around the league are grading them similar so maybe someone will fall to us at 12. Someone not named Jackson or Rudolph.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Gunner, You did such a fine job in evaluating the qbs that I felt guilty receiving your work product. So I decided to send you a humongous check as compensation for your service. If you don't receive the check within a week then blame either the US or English Postal Service. As usual my intentions were noble in nature. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Don’t see my sleeper Brogan Rodak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Don’t see my sleeper Brogan Rodak. It was there the entire evaluation was “looks like a sentient toe” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Good work dude and thanks for taking the time. Obviously, the Allen stuff really stands out, but your analysis is fair. Let's go get Rosen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan of St Augustine Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Damn nice post , no flame required - I am all in on Rosen and could be convinced on Darnold. Any of the rest could be there at 12. I guess the question is whether we are willing to gamble they will be or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 That is what I saw when I watched the games as well. My rankings are almost identical. I was a littlehigher on Mike White. But your evaluation of him seemed fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFL Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Goodness.......Gunner what a fantastic job you did! The quality and time vested is lights out.....good on ya man. As previously mentioned of course teams will over pay.....personally I hope we just sit tight and lets the chips fall.....unless of course some draft night deal is too good to pass up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Great post gunner! Have you watched Logan Woodside at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) I have enjoyed the many threads on who the best QB is on this message board over the last several weeks. I don't follow the college game closely and I really don't know much about these QBs except for what I have read on this board. Here is a quick synopsis of what I have learned about the QBs in this year's draft on this message board; 1. Each of the top 6 quarterbacks is the very best one for the Bills to draft 2. Each of the top 6 quarterbacks is a terrible fit for the Bills and is a guaranteed bust 3. Each of the top 6 quarterbacks, whichever is selected by the Bills, will result in some posters never watching the Buffalo Bills again 4. Each of the top 6 quarterbacks is worth trading what ever draft picks are needed in order to move up and draft them 5. Each of the top 6 quarterbacks has serious flaws and we should not waste draft picks to trade up for them, but should draft other positions instead With this knowledge in hand, I confess the only thing that I'm certain of is that I'm glad I'm not McBeane.... Thanks for the write up Gunner, it helps. Edited March 31, 2018 by Inigo Montoya 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Outstanding write-up and analysis Gunner, thank you for your hard work. Thoroughly enjoyed reading it! Fingers crossed we end up with Rosen or Mayfield! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Great job ??? thank you for the hard work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, billspro said: Great post gunner! Have you watched Logan Woodside at all? Very little but I have sat through a couple of games. He is my 11th and last draftable QB grade. I have a 7th / UDFA on him. Below average tools and a bit of a funky delivery but a real grinder and competitor. The sort of guy you bring in stash on the PS and try and work with him.... could he eventually make a back up somewhere? Maybe. Think he is a PS type guy. Just for completeness in addition to the 8 I analysed in the OP I have Lauletta and Ferguson as 6ths and Woodside as a 7th / UDFA. That makes 11. Last year I had 7. Edited April 1, 2018 by GunnerBill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 god job gunner, but it does not determine where these guys go. i say darnold goes to the browns. barkley or chubb to the giants and rosen in the rotten apple to the jets. the bills take mayfield at4. if for some reason he gets picked before then , then we sit and take rudolph. if it has to be at 12 so be it. i would rather take him at 22, but that's a risk with az and miami is one pick before us so.. i would love ridley or edmunds/vea in the 1st and a trade back up for rudolph....idk i can't take this anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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