Kirby Jackson Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, GunnerBill said: Yea but Tyrod is not as good as you think he is. He won more than half of his games with suspect rosters. This Browns team is the most talented team that he will have played with. Do you disagree with that? If not which Bills teams were better and where? If you agree they are better why do you think that his record will go backwards? You are underestimating how his lack of mistakes help a talented team. They will make plays (especially down the field), not make mistakes, and play solid defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: You think that they are giving up a 3rd to cut a guy?!? A guy that could have been cut this week?!? Come on jmc, you are better than that. I’ll bet you my 401k he gets at least $18M guaranteed. I’m taking the over Pre or Post Trump 401k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: It's similar to our market conversation the other day. If Alex Smith cost Fuller and a mid third, then the market for a QB like TT was set at 4th-5th, IMO. Getting the top of the third is incredible. The price tag though added to his value. Tyrod at that number is why he got more. It’s an NBA type of trade. The contract has value. 1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Pre or Post Trump 401k? As of today Anyone think that the Bills flip that pick for Foles? Edited March 9, 2018 by Kirby Jackson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He won more than half of his games with suspect rosters. This Browns team is the most talented team that he will have played with. Do you disagree with that? If not which Bills teams were better and where? If you agree they are better why do you think that his record will go backwards? You are underestimating how his lack of mistakes help a talented team. They will make plays (especially down the field), not make mistakes, and play solid defense. I do disagree with that. Yep. I think the Browns have about 4 good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Dare I say... we won the offseason! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: The price tag though added to his value. Tyrod at that number is why he got more. It’s an NBA type of trade. The contract has value. As of today Anyone think that the Bills flip that pick for Foles? Crazy talk, but you're stepping up to the plate! The Foles play seems very plausible after this move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Tyrod will struggle just as much in Cleveland as he did in Buffalo. Same weather, same poor mechanics and tendencies. I wish him all the best but he'll play it safe like he always has and the Browns will be kicking themselves for giving up #65. If he's a bridge qb it will be a very short bridge. Agreed. Some will say that TT is an 8 win QB, and that 8 wins is a major upgrade for Cleveland. This is very flawed logic. TT was an 8 win QB with Buffalo. Cleveland is consistently in the basement for a reason. They are more than an average QB away from being an 8 win team imo. Landry and TT do not suddenly make the Browns a .500 club. TT would have been 4-12 without a stellar defense last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 22 minutes ago, Clyde Smith said: That pick is like a late second rd. It's also a really really late first or early third. Who can tell? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I do disagree with that. Yep. I think the Browns have about 4 good players. I think that Joe Thomas comes back now. They will add Barkley (and a young QB). They still have Gordon, Coleman, Landry, Njoku, Garrett, Schobert, etc... and have tons of cap space and picks. Their defense was already pretty good. They will be talented this season. I also think crazy Todd Haley is a good fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Charlottebillsfan2 said: Dare I say... we won the offseason! Lolz... go away The league year hasn't even opened yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 24 minutes ago, njbuff said: You know what guys................. Taylor might actually be what the doctor ordered for that Cleveland franchise. He doesn't make mistakes and the Browns can groom their young QB's (Kizer and a draft pick). I think this works out VERY WELL for both teams. What do you guys think. I did say for months the only team that wants TT badly is the Browns. They had 40 QB turnovers last year. With Barkley, a rookie sitting for a year, and a couple of d-backs the Brown will go from 0-16 to 6-8 wins this year. Congrats to the Brown fans, your time is coming. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Now the Bills have 2-1s, 2-2s, 2-3s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 I can see the Browns getting 8 wins next season. Their defense is legit and they're adding offensive weapons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, Steptide said: I can see the Browns getting 8 wins next season. Their defense is legit and they're adding offensive weapons. Tyrod's skills are pretty offensive. Good call! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 28 minutes ago, njbuff said: You know what guys................. Taylor might actually be what the doctor ordered for that Cleveland franchise. He doesn't make mistakes and the Browns can groom their young QB's (Kizer and a draft pick). I think this works out VERY WELL for both teams. What do you guys think. Think? Poncho says: BYE BYE HEMOROID! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: I did say for months the only team that wants TT badly is the Browns. They had 40 QB turnovers last year. With Barkley, a rookie sitting for a year, and a couple of d-backs the Brown will go from 0-16 to 6-8 wins this year. Congrats to the Brown fans, your time is coming. I highly doubt any QB drafted so early will sit especially on the Browns... Let TT have 2 bad games and watch the rookie come in. in the NFL you either got it at QB or you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 28 minutes ago, njbuff said: You know what guys................. Taylor might actually be what the doctor ordered for that Cleveland franchise. He doesn't make mistakes and the Browns can groom their young QB's (Kizer and a draft pick). I think this works out VERY WELL for both teams. What do you guys think. Before I saw this thread, I said essentially the same thing in a post in another trade thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, boater said: Lolz... go away The league year hasn't even opened yet. Come on bud just having fun with some famous Rex quotes!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I think that Joe Thomas comes back now. They will add Barkley (and a young QB). They still have Gordon, Coleman, Landry, Njoku, Garrett, Schobert, etc... and have tons of cap space and picks. Their defense was already pretty good. They will be talented this season. I also think crazy Todd Haley is a good fit. Gordon won't make it through the offseason without some puff and Coleman as much as I like him is always injured. I think the 2015 Bills team was loaded. Definitely better than this Browns team. Goodwin and Hogan both now starters on decent deals were our #4 and #5 receiver. Tyrod is what Tyrod is. He doesn't suddenly elevate. He is a good bridge for Cleveland and makes lots of sense there but he doesn't make them a winning team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Gordon won't make it through the offseason without some puff and Coleman as much as I like him is always injured. I think the 2015 Bills team was loaded. Definitely better than this Browns team. Goodwin and Hogan both now starters on decent deals were our #4 and #5 receiver. Tyrod is what Tyrod is. He doesn't suddenly elevate. He is a good bridge for Cleveland and makes lots of sense there but he doesn't make them a winning team. I guess that I am just higher on their roster than you. It still has a lot of moving to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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