Kirby Jackson Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 On 3/9/2018 at 11:26 PM, GunnerBill said: Yea but Tyrod is not as good as you think he is. Expand He won more than half of his games with suspect rosters. This Browns team is the most talented team that he will have played with. Do you disagree with that? If not which Bills teams were better and where? If you agree they are better why do you think that his record will go backwards? You are underestimating how his lack of mistakes help a talented team. They will make plays (especially down the field), not make mistakes, and play solid defense. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 On 3/9/2018 at 11:23 PM, Kirby Jackson said: You think that they are giving up a 3rd to cut a guy?!? A guy that could have been cut this week?!? Come on jmc, you are better than that. I’ll bet you my 401k he gets at least $18M guaranteed. I’m taking the over Expand Pre or Post Trump 401k?
Kirby Jackson Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) On 3/9/2018 at 11:28 PM, jmc12290 said: It's similar to our market conversation the other day. If Alex Smith cost Fuller and a mid third, then the market for a QB like TT was set at 4th-5th, IMO. Getting the top of the third is incredible. Expand The price tag though added to his value. Tyrod at that number is why he got more. It’s an NBA type of trade. The contract has value. On 3/9/2018 at 11:30 PM, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Pre or Post Trump 401k? Expand As of today Anyone think that the Bills flip that pick for Foles? Edited March 9, 2018 by Kirby Jackson 1
GunnerBill Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 On 3/9/2018 at 11:29 PM, Kirby Jackson said: He won more than half of his games with suspect rosters. This Browns team is the most talented team that he will have played with. Do you disagree with that? If not which Bills teams were better and where? If you agree they are better why do you think that his record will go backwards? You are underestimating how his lack of mistakes help a talented team. They will make plays (especially down the field), not make mistakes, and play solid defense. Expand I do disagree with that. Yep. I think the Browns have about 4 good players.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 On 3/9/2018 at 11:30 PM, Kirby Jackson said: The price tag though added to his value. Tyrod at that number is why he got more. It’s an NBA type of trade. The contract has value. As of today Anyone think that the Bills flip that pick for Foles? Expand Crazy talk, but you're stepping up to the plate! The Foles play seems very plausible after this move.
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 On 3/9/2018 at 11:22 PM, LABILLBACKER said: Tyrod will struggle just as much in Cleveland as he did in Buffalo. Same weather, same poor mechanics and tendencies. I wish him all the best but he'll play it safe like he always has and the Browns will be kicking themselves for giving up #65. If he's a bridge qb it will be a very short bridge. Expand Agreed. Some will say that TT is an 8 win QB, and that 8 wins is a major upgrade for Cleveland. This is very flawed logic. TT was an 8 win QB with Buffalo. Cleveland is consistently in the basement for a reason. They are more than an average QB away from being an 8 win team imo. Landry and TT do not suddenly make the Browns a .500 club. TT would have been 4-12 without a stellar defense last season.
Luxy312 Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 On 3/9/2018 at 11:15 PM, Clyde Smith said: That pick is like a late second rd. Expand It's also a really really late first or early third. Who can tell? 1
Kirby Jackson Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 On 3/9/2018 at 11:32 PM, GunnerBill said: I do disagree with that. Yep. I think the Browns have about 4 good players. Expand I think that Joe Thomas comes back now. They will add Barkley (and a young QB). They still have Gordon, Coleman, Landry, Njoku, Garrett, Schobert, etc... and have tons of cap space and picks. Their defense was already pretty good. They will be talented this season. I also think crazy Todd Haley is a good fit. 1
boater Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 On 3/9/2018 at 11:33 PM, Charlottebillsfan2 said: Dare I say... we won the offseason! Expand Lolz... go away The league year hasn't even opened yet.
ColoradoBills Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 On 3/9/2018 at 11:12 PM, njbuff said: You know what guys................. Taylor might actually be what the doctor ordered for that Cleveland franchise. He doesn't make mistakes and the Browns can groom their young QB's (Kizer and a draft pick). I think this works out VERY WELL for both teams. What do you guys think. Expand I did say for months the only team that wants TT badly is the Browns. They had 40 QB turnovers last year. With Barkley, a rookie sitting for a year, and a couple of d-backs the Brown will go from 0-16 to 6-8 wins this year. Congrats to the Brown fans, your time is coming. 3
Steptide Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 I can see the Browns getting 8 wins next season. Their defense is legit and they're adding offensive weapons. 1
Luxy312 Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 On 3/9/2018 at 11:40 PM, Steptide said: I can see the Browns getting 8 wins next season. Their defense is legit and they're adding offensive weapons. Expand Tyrod's skills are pretty offensive. Good call!
KW95 - JA17 Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 On 3/9/2018 at 11:12 PM, njbuff said: You know what guys................. Taylor might actually be what the doctor ordered for that Cleveland franchise. He doesn't make mistakes and the Browns can groom their young QB's (Kizer and a draft pick). I think this works out VERY WELL for both teams. What do you guys think. Expand Think? Poncho says: BYE BYE HEMOROID!
Boca BIlls Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 On 3/9/2018 at 11:38 PM, ColoradoBills said: I did say for months the only team that wants TT badly is the Browns. They had 40 QB turnovers last year. With Barkley, a rookie sitting for a year, and a couple of d-backs the Brown will go from 0-16 to 6-8 wins this year. Congrats to the Brown fans, your time is coming. Expand I highly doubt any QB drafted so early will sit especially on the Browns... Let TT have 2 bad games and watch the rookie come in. in the NFL you either got it at QB or you don't.
TigerJ Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 On 3/9/2018 at 11:12 PM, njbuff said: You know what guys................. Taylor might actually be what the doctor ordered for that Cleveland franchise. He doesn't make mistakes and the Browns can groom their young QB's (Kizer and a draft pick). I think this works out VERY WELL for both teams. What do you guys think. Expand Before I saw this thread, I said essentially the same thing in a post in another trade thread.
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 On 3/9/2018 at 11:38 PM, boater said: Lolz... go away The league year hasn't even opened yet. Expand Come on bud just having fun with some famous Rex quotes!!! 2
GunnerBill Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 On 3/9/2018 at 11:38 PM, Kirby Jackson said: I think that Joe Thomas comes back now. They will add Barkley (and a young QB). They still have Gordon, Coleman, Landry, Njoku, Garrett, Schobert, etc... and have tons of cap space and picks. Their defense was already pretty good. They will be talented this season. I also think crazy Todd Haley is a good fit. Expand Gordon won't make it through the offseason without some puff and Coleman as much as I like him is always injured. I think the 2015 Bills team was loaded. Definitely better than this Browns team. Goodwin and Hogan both now starters on decent deals were our #4 and #5 receiver. Tyrod is what Tyrod is. He doesn't suddenly elevate. He is a good bridge for Cleveland and makes lots of sense there but he doesn't make them a winning team.
Kirby Jackson Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 On 3/9/2018 at 11:44 PM, GunnerBill said: Gordon won't make it through the offseason without some puff and Coleman as much as I like him is always injured. I think the 2015 Bills team was loaded. Definitely better than this Browns team. Goodwin and Hogan both now starters on decent deals were our #4 and #5 receiver. Tyrod is what Tyrod is. He doesn't suddenly elevate. He is a good bridge for Cleveland and makes lots of sense there but he doesn't make them a winning team. Expand I guess that I am just higher on their roster than you. It still has a lot of moving to go.
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