Won't anyone think of the poor, sensitive Lawful Gun Owner?

[LA Grant]

It's sad to see kids & parents sad because a bunch of children were murdered again with a legally purchased AR-15 assault rifle. But it's not SO sad that the Legal Gun Owners should be inconvenienced in any way whatsoever. What kind of totalitarian regime are you trying to set up? How much is George Soros paying you to be a Crisis Actor? 

 

Do not expand background checks. Sure, you have to take behavioral tests/assessments to work at Wal-Mart but not to own a gun, which means people who are too psycho to work at Wal-Mart are still perfectly qualified to own 100 guns.

 

Do not expand testing & registration requirements. Sure, you need to do this maintain a driver's license. But are cars in the Second Amendment? Didn't think so. We're Patriots! By the way I also think that it's only fair that we revise traffic/vehicle laws to be as de-regulated as gun laws. "Um wait, you want to add MORE idiots on the road?" Well, sometimes the only one way to stop an idiot on the road is a good driver on the road. I say I'm a good driver, that should be enough. 

 

And never, ever, EVER limit the war machines that my child has access to. He's 18 so he's not ready for beer or cigarettes but this is a FREE COUNTRY and he will defend with your life his right to own any gun.

 

Here are some solutions that my fellow NRA-supporting Legal Gun Owning Heroes can feel comfortable with:

 

1) Every teacher has a gun (they can buy it with their school supplies)

2) Every door & entrance has a sheriff's deputy (I'm not paying for this with my taxes tho)

3) We need to hire a lot of new sheriff's deputies (I'm not paying, sorry, no more kids in school, not my problem)

4) New school uniform: SWAT gear. (again, not paying)

5) Thoughts 

6) Prayers

7) Mental health!! (Just not on my dime.)

 

USA USA USA USA

 

GO BILLS

 

 

[LA Grant]

Ban guns?? Uhh yeah good idea... NOT!

 

What's next? Are you going to ban spoons?? People use spoons to get obese, and that's even deadlier! And that logic follows because I use my guns to eat cereal.

[/dev/null]

You forgot your hashtag

 

#CurrentTragedyStrong

#PrayForWhoeverTheBadThingHappenedTo

[LA Grant]

40 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

You forgot your hashtag

 

#CurrentTragedyStrong

#PrayForWhoeverTheBadThingHappenedTo

 

Good point. How about something we can all agree on for unity, like #GunsHaveNeverKilledPeople

[BringBackOrton]

The silver lining to tragedies like this is that it exposes morons like LA Grant.

[Teddy KGB]

At least you didn’t bring up race      Gotta applaud you for that 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

Like the young girl tweeted to Donny 
 
I don’t need your !@#$ing “thoughts and prayers!”  I want you to do something to keep it from continuing. 

 

DD suggests a % of teachers carry concealed weapon after they get proper training.  
 
1)  what are the chances of a hand gun against a semiautomatic rifle of some sort. 
 
2) what training is mandatory for a person under 20 who wants the buy one of these type weapons?
 
3) who purchases the weapons and pays for the training?

Not on your dime.  

[KW95 - JA17]

48 minutes ago, jmc12290 said:

The silver lining to tragedies like this is that it exposes morons like LA Grant.

 

 Sadly, you might be a great guy and a fellow Bills fan, but for me, you seem like the moron.

 

I think the big question is:  BAN THE MILITARY WEAPONS.  Why even have them?  

 

No one deserves being a parent of one of the girls who got shot and couldn't be identified because the damage to her body and face was so bad.  

 

AMERICA THE GREAT!

 

 

 

 

[thebug]

Oh come on, they have to protect themselves from their own great government. 

Edited February 22, 2018 by thebug

[Tiberius]

50 minutes ago, jmc12290 said:

The silver lining to tragedies like this is that it exposes morons like LA Grant.

Well, I understand you are just following the well trodden tactic of first demonizing your opponent, but what's your solution?

 

I know a lot of gun owners say its impossible to ban "assault rifles" or to even define them, is that really true? I owned an SKS and was told it could be turned into a semi-automatic easily but I never did. If they just banned all military style rifles that were non-bolt action, how difficult would that be?

[BringBackOrton]

18 minutes ago, KW95 said:

 

 Sadly, you might be a great guy and a fellow Bills fan, but for me, you seem like the moron.

 

I think the big question is:  BAN THE MILITARY WEAPONS.  Why even have them?  

 

No one deserves being a parent of one of the girls who got shot and couldn't be identified because the damage to her body and face was so bad.  

 

AMERICA THE GREAT!

 

 

 

 

Because of the Second Amendment. Bans infringe on my inalienable rights. Next question.

11 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Well, I understand you are just following the well trodden tactic of first demonizing your opponent, but what's your solution?

 

I know a lot of gun owners say its impossible to ban "assault rifles" or to even define them, is that really true? I owned an SKS and was told it could be turned into a semi-automatic easily but I never did. If they just banned all military style rifles that were non-bolt action, how difficult would that be?

There is no solution. It sucks that kids are getting killed. But this isn't an "epidemic," either. 

[boyst]

This is why this form is pure **** these days. Not one articulate point that was thought out more than just a fart. Think harder post less

[thebug]

1 minute ago, Boyst62 said:

This is why this form is pure **** these days. Not one articulate point that was thought out more than just a fart. Think harder post less

Now that's some real comedy! 

[boyst]

1 minute ago, thebug said:

Now that's some real comedy! 

Coming from the queen of Chaos, this should not be a surprise.

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, jmc12290 said:

Because of the Second Amendment. Bans infringe on my inalienable rights. Next question.

There is no solution. It sucks that kids are getting killed. But this isn't an "epidemic," either. 

There are restrictions on 1st Amendment. There are exceptions on 4th Amendment. The 2nd Amendment should have special status. We don't deal in absolutes with any of the amendments

 

Banning military style assault rifles, how difficult will that be when we do it?

[KW95 - JA17]

5 minutes ago, jmc12290 said:

Because of the Second Amendment. Bans infringe on my inalienable rights. Next question.

There is no solution. It sucks that kids are getting killed. But this isn't an "epidemic," either. 

 

 

Hope it never happens to one of your loved ones.  Your tune will change quickly and drastically.

[boyst]

Just now, KW95 said:

 

 

Hope it never happens to one of your loved ones.  Your tune will change quickly and drastically.

bull ****. I'd be there screaming that we need more guns.

 

Don't put words in my mouth and think you would ever understand the Integrity of a man. 

[thebug]

Just now, Boyst62 said:

bull ****. I'd be there screaming that we need more guns.

 

Don't put words in my mouth and think you would ever understand the Integrity of a man. 

 Dude, you are on fire this morning!

[boyst]

Just now, thebug said:

 Dude, you are on fire this morning!

Trust me sweetheart, I'm a man of integrity

[thebug]

Just now, Boyst62 said:

Trust me sweetheart, I'm a man of integrity

So I've read....

[boyst]

2 minutes ago, thebug said:

So I've read....

And yet you are as clueless as they !@#$ing come. Do you not think I have zero care for the issue you bring up?

[LA Grant]

Listen to this podcast episode. It's 2 veterans of Iraq talking about guns. What do you think these military veterans say about it? They are both gun owners. What do you think their position is? For arming schools and teachers, what do you think they think? They talk it through pretty logically, considering who would be in those jobs and what equipment they'd need. How many infantry do you suppose they'd estimate it would take to secure a HS as safely as a US embassy? 

 

It's worth a listen. 

 

 

[Tiberius]

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/02/22/does-the-second-amendment-really-protect-assault-weapons-four-courts-have-said-no/?hpid=hp_hp-morning-mix_mm-amendment%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.a5c8cbf786f7
 

Quote

 

Almost exactly a year ago, a federal appeals court considered whether a Maryland law banning assault weapons was unconstitutional.

The law was passed in the aftermath of the Sandy Hook Elementary massacre, which left 20 first-graders and six adults dead after a man bearing an AR-15 style weapon stormed the Connecticut school.

“Nine terrified children ran from one of the classrooms when the gunman paused to reload, while two youngsters successfully hid in a restroom,” Judge Robert B. King of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit, wrote in the majority opinion. “Another child was the other classroom’s sole survivor. In all, the gunman fired at least 155 rounds of ammunition within five minutes, shooting each of his victims multiple times.”

 

The court ruled that the ban on assault weapons like the one Adam Lanza used inside Sandy Hook that day — like the one that police say Nikolas Cruz has confessed to using inside Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School and that Omar Mateen used inside Orlando’s Pulse Nightclub and Stephen Paddock used from the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas — was constitutional.

It was not the first time a federal appeals court had ruled that a ban on assault weapons was permissible under the Second Amendment. It was the fourth time in the last decade.  In fact, no federal appeals court has ever held that assault weapons are protected.

 

 

[thebug]

Just now, Boyst62 said:

And yet you are as clueless as they !@#$ing come. Do you not think I have zero care for the issue you bring up?

You mad bro? 

[LA Grant]

20 minutes ago, jmc12290 said:

Because of the Second Amendment. Bans infringe on my inalienable rights. Next question.

There is no solution. It sucks that kids are getting killed. But this isn't an "epidemic," either. 

 

Oh hey jmc! Well, I already know you're trash from your posts on TSW but speaking of Amendments... Let's hear it from Thomas Jefferson. (Apologies he doesn't write in message board style for you, jmc, but it's worth it to read through the full excerpt, or even more!)

 

"Some men look at constitutions with sanctimonious reverence, and deem them like the arc of the covenant, too sacred to be touched. They ascribe to the men of the preceding age a wisdom more than human, and suppose what they did to be beyond amendment. I knew that age well; I belonged to it, and labored with it. It deserved well of its country. It was very like the present, but without the experience of the present; and forty years of experience in government is worth a century of book-reading; and this they would say themselves, were they to rise from the dead. I am certainly not an advocate for frequent and untried changes in laws and constitutions. I think moderate imperfections had better be borne with; because, when once known, we accommodate ourselves to them, and find practical means of correcting their ill effects. But I know also, that laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths disclosed, and manners and opinions change with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also, and keep pace with the times." 

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/letter-to-samuel-kercheval/

 

"Can one generation bind another, and all others, in succession forever? I think not. The Creator has made the earth for the living, not the dead. Rights and powers can only belong to persons, not to things, not to mere matter, unendowed with will."

https://thefederalistpapers.org/founders/jefferson/the-creator-has-made-the-earth-for-the-living-not-the-dead

 

"A generation may bind itself as long as its majority continues in life; when that has disappeared, another majority is in place, holds all the rights and powers their predecessors once held, and may change their laws and institutions to suit themselves. Nothing then is unchangeable but the inherent and inalienable rights of man."

 

^

Congrats on being the binding generation, you selfish lazy old useless farts.

 

[LeviF]

I forget, are cops the problem this week or are guns?

[TakeYouToTasker]

It says all anyone needs to know about a person when they condemn, wholesale, the exercise on another human's natural rights.

 

It's also hilarious that they don't realize that mindset:  that they believe they should have a say in what natural rights a person should be permitted to exercise, is the exact reason the Second Amendment exists.

 

Fortunately, no matter how much the gnash their teeth and wail, "shall not be infringed" is the High Law of the land and cannot be changed without Constitutional Amendment, and the gun owning populace is very awake to the would be monarchists who are quick to deny them not only their Second Amendment rights, but other rights protected by the Constitution as well.

 

Further, the nature of guns themselves makes them impossible to confiscate without a civil war (anyone advocating gun grabbing to "prevent gun deaths" is a liar, as the gun deaths instigated by their desire to confiscate would lead to unfathomable amounts of gun deaths); while those they would be asking to do the confiscating (law enforcement and military) are amongst the demographic most likely to be private gun owners themselves, who have taken an oath to defend the Constitution.

 

 

[DC Tom]

3 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

It says all anyone needs to know about a person when they condemn, wholesale, the exercise on another human's natural rights.

 

It's also hilarious that they don't realize that mindset:  that they believe they should have a say in what natural rights a person should be permitted to exercise, is the exact reason the Second Amendment exists.

 

Fortunately, no matter how much the gnash their teeth and wail, "shall not be infringed" is the High Law of the land and cannot be changed without Constitutional Amendment, and the gun owning populace is very awake to the would be monarchists who are quick to deny them not only their Second Amendment rights, but other rights protected by the Constitution as well.

 

Further, the nature of guns themselves makes them impossible to confiscate without a civil war (anyone advocating gun grabbing to "prevent gun deaths" is a liar, as the gun deaths instigated by their desire to confiscate would lead to unfathomable amounts of gun deaths); while those they would be asking to do the confiscating (law enforcement and military) are amongst the demographic most likely to be private gun owners themselves, who have taken an oath to defend the Constitution.

 

 

 

GTFO with your rationalism.  This thread is for histrionics.

[LA Grant]

3 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

It says all anyone needs to know about a person when they condemn, wholesale, the exercise on another human's natural rights.

 

It's also hilarious that they don't realize that mindset:  that they believe they should have a say in what natural rights a person should be permitted to exercise, is the exact reason the Second Amendment exists.

 

Fortunately, no matter how much the gnash their teeth and wail, "shall not be infringed" is the High Law of the land and cannot be changed without Constitutional Amendment, and the gun owning populace is very awake to the would be monarchists who are quick to deny them not only their Second Amendment rights, but other rights protected by the Constitution as well.

 

Further, the nature of guns themselves makes them impossible to confiscate without a civil war (anyone advocating gun grabbing to "prevent gun deaths" is a liar, as the gun deaths instigated by their desire to confiscate would lead to unfathomable amounts of gun deaths); while those they would be asking to do the confiscating (law enforcement and military) are amongst the demographic most likely to be private gun owners themselves, who have taken an oath to defend the Constitution.

 

 

 

GENUINELY one of the dumbest takes I have seen. Like the bar was low, and seeing your name the bar droops a little lower, and even then — an amount of stupid that's surprising every time. Well done.

10 minutes ago, LA Grant said:

 

Oh hey jmc! Well, I already know you're trash from your posts on TSW but speaking of Amendments... Let's hear it from Thomas Jefferson. (Apologies he doesn't write in message board style for you, jmc, but it's worth it to read through the full excerpt, or even more!)

 

"Some men look at constitutions with sanctimonious reverence, and deem them like the arc of the covenant, too sacred to be touched. They ascribe to the men of the preceding age a wisdom more than human, and suppose what they did to be beyond amendment. I knew that age well; I belonged to it, and labored with it. It deserved well of its country. It was very like the present, but without the experience of the present; and forty years of experience in government is worth a century of book-reading; and this they would say themselves, were they to rise from the dead. I am certainly not an advocate for frequent and untried changes in laws and constitutions. I think moderate imperfections had better be borne with; because, when once known, we accommodate ourselves to them, and find practical means of correcting their ill effects. But I know also, that laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths disclosed, and manners and opinions change with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also, and keep pace with the times." 

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/letter-to-samuel-kercheval/

 

"Can one generation bind another, and all others, in succession forever? I think not. The Creator has made the earth for the living, not the dead. Rights and powers can only belong to persons, not to things, not to mere matter, unendowed with will."

https://thefederalistpapers.org/founders/jefferson/the-creator-has-made-the-earth-for-the-living-not-the-dead

 

"A generation may bind itself as long as its majority continues in life; when that has disappeared, another majority is in place, holds all the rights and powers their predecessors once held, and may change their laws and institutions to suit themselves. Nothing then is unchangeable but the inherent and inalienable rights of man."

 

^

Congrats on being the binding generation, you selfish lazy old useless farts.

 

 

 ^ On the Second Amendment garbage. Grow the $*!^( up and face reality. 

 

No one is "taking your guns away" you hobbyless morons. You've done plenty of damage. The idea is to prevent more. Gun reform is the obvious answer in front of your stupid potato face.

 

 

[Nanker]

12 minutes ago, LA Grant said:

 

GENUINELY one of the dumbest takes I have seen. Like the bar was low, and seeing your name the bar droops a little lower, and even then — an amount of stupid that's surprising every time. Well done.

 

 ^ On the Second Amendment garbage. Grow the $*!^( up and face reality. 

 

No one is "taking your guns away" you hobbyless morons. You've done plenty of damage. The idea is to prevent more. Gun reform is the obvious answer in front of your stupid potato face.

 

Gee. Thanks for starting a whole new thread on this topic, and for offering your objective opinion on the subject. 

 

[boyst]

38 minutes ago, thebug said:

You mad bro? 

I don't get mad, I really don't. 

[TakeYouToTasker]

16 minutes ago, LA Grant said:

 

GENUINELY one of the dumbest takes I have seen. Like the bar was low, and seeing your name the bar droops a little lower, and even then — an amount of stupid that's surprising every time. Well done.

 

 

 

An truly convincing argument:  "I can't dispute a single fact presented, and I'm an emotional and self-righteous dickhead, so I'll call names instead."

 

I am convinced.  Where should I turn over my firearms?

 

I do thank you for your asshattery, however, because while your particular brand of howling into your facebook echo chamber won't do a thing to take a single gun off the street, prevent a single gun death, or help a mentally ill child, what it does do, very effectively, is put gun owners on the further defensive.

 

And that's fine, stupid as it may be to pick a fight with the people with all the guns.

 

[Paulus]

4 hours ago, /dev/null said:

You forgot your hashtag

 

#CurrentTragedyStrong

#PrayForWhoeverTheBadThingHappenedTo

I prefer #ArmenianGenocide 

Too tired to write mor.

[3rdnlng]

9 minutes ago, Paulus said:

I prefer #ArmenianGenocide 

Too tired to write mor.

Too tired to even spell out "more"? Get some sleep, man.

[IDBillzFan]

Gee, if only there was a thread here about guns. Thanks for starting this one. You're a real ground-breaker. 

[DC Tom]

4 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

Gee, if only there was a thread here about guns. Thanks for starting this one. You're a real ground-breaker. 

 

His opinion is just TOO DAMNED IMPORTANT to be relegated to someone else's thread, you pissant.

[3rdnlng]

17 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

His opinion is just TOO DAMNED IMPORTANT to be relegated to someone else's thread, you pissant.

"Pissant" is a term generally used for gator by me. Don't get too comfortable with using it in such a cavalier manner. Seriously (or not) my auto-correct keeps changing the spelling to puissant which I ashamedly admit that I had to look up and it means the opposite of puissant.

[B-Man]

2 hours ago, LeviF91 said:

I forget, are cops the problem this week or are guns?

 

 

Guns this week.........................next weeks urgency has not yet been sent out.

[3rdnlng]

3 hours ago, LeviF91 said:

I forget, are cops the problem this week or are guns?

Cops with guns are the problem. That's it.

[Koko78]

8 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Cops with guns are the problem. That's it.

 

White cops with guns.