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I could definitely sign up for a decade of Josh Rosen playing QB for the Bills.   Underrated aspect of this - Josh Rosen's philosophical nature and intelligence vs Jerry Sullivan would be li

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He says in his new podcast that he is hearing from talking to scouts and agents that the Bills love Josh Rosen and thinks they will trade up to 2 with the NYG to draft him.    https://itunes

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Ask Eagles fans and Ram fans if they care about the picks they gave up to get Wentz and Goff

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1 hour ago, KelsaysLunchbox said:

Yea, I'm with you on the Mayfield bus. Think he's going to be a great player. 

Here's the thing with Bridgewater in general. If the knee is good and he's a franchise guy...why in the world would the Vikings let him go? They have the option to franchise him, the can resign him over Bradford/Keenum if he's a franchise guy. If the Vikings let him go...there's a reason. 

 

Shurmur would likely have some firsthand knowledge of where his knee is at and where he is as a player. 

True, but there could be dissenting opinions between Shurmur and the Vikings personnel/coaches on Bridgewater.  I wouldn't be shocked if the Vikings take a run at Cousins as they are in a win now mode.  Just a thought.

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5 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

It could easily happen, especially if they throw in Cordy Glenn as Galko suggests they might.

I don’t know. Kind of seems like Galko is just throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it sticks.

 

His evidence of their interest was,

1) that he’s heard from people (although no one in the organization), that the Bills like him.

 

2) they’ve scouted him multiple times

 

my reply would be 

1) who is “they”, is it just a regional scout of something? Or is it someone like Beane. These scouting staffs aren’t small, they have groups of people who have varying interest in different players. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were people in the organization who had each of the top guys at the top of their own personal list.

 

2) Beane has scouted Rudolph multiple times himself this season. Does that mean they’re in love with him? Maybe. But it doesn’t prove anything either.

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The quote "to the Bills" seems to imply that this is a done deal.  How likely is it that the two teams actually agreed on a deal? (assuming Darnold hoes 1).

 

'Josh Rosen to the Bills is what I've heard repeatedly,' says Eric Galko.

 

http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/02/josh_rosen_to_the_buffalo_bills_is_what_ive_heard_repeatedly_says_eric_galko.html

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11 minutes ago, PIZ said:

The quote "to the Bills" seems to imply that this is a done deal.  How likely is it that the two teams actually agreed on a deal? (assuming Darnold hoes 1).

 

'Josh Rosen to the Bills is what I've heard repeatedly,' says Eric Galko.

 

http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/02/josh_rosen_to_the_buffalo_bills_is_what_ive_heard_repeatedly_says_eric_galko.html

I think it’s possible the Bills and Giants have discussed some preliminary parameters on a deal. I think it’s possible Rosen is #1 or 2 on their board based on what they know today. But keep in mind they have not met or interviewed him at all yet. They will in 2 weeks. 

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Beane and McD. If you can make this happen I swear I will not call you out for One Calender year over Teflon Juan still being employed here 

 

 

The earlier the Deal can become official the cheaper it will be IMO. As they get closer and closer to draft and more teams start calling price might go up. 

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5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Not sure that can be emphasized enough.

 

It actually gets less dangerous for QB's when they reach the NFL.

 

And fwiw........Aaron Rodgers was on his 3rd or 4th bad concussion in 2010........and on his way out of the league.........when Goodell decided you couldn't hit QB's......or WR's in the middle of the field.....and began bludgeoning the Steelers defense with fines to emphasize the point.     7 years later concussions are no longer much of an issue for him.

While this is all true, it was a rubber matt that ended Kevin Kolb's NFL career.

 

NFL players are bigger, stronger and more importantly much, much faster. It's not just the concussions that have me worried about Allen as much as his recurring shoulder injuries and his struggles with free rushers. Makes risky decisions under pressure, throws off his back foot when hurried. Makes dangerous throwaways while being sacked instead of holding the ball. When he takes hits he is prone to get knocked out of a game. 

 

Other than all that a really good college football QB. 

 

My personal opinion is that the Bills have far too many holes on the roster to give up so much for a QB with serious questions. I prefer the Bills back up the Brinks truck for Cousins and spend all those draft picks on filling those holes.

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Just now, Nihilarian said:

While this is all true, it was a rubber matt that ended Kevin Kolb's NFL career.

 

NFL players are bigger, stronger and more importantly much, much faster. It's not just the concussions that have me worried about Allen as much as his recurring shoulder injuries and his struggles with free rushers. Makes risky decisions under pressure, throws off his back foot when hurried. Makes dangerous throwaways while being sacked instead of holding the ball. When he takes hits he is prone to get knocked out of a game. 

 

Other than all that a really good college football QB. 

 

My personal opinion is that the Bills have far too many holes on the roster to give up so much for a QB with serious questions. I prefer the Bills back up the Brinks truck for Cousins and spend all those draft picks on filling those holes.

 

And Cousins take a big shot and gets a concussion and ends his career. See you cant predict that soooo

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2 hours ago, Dkollidas said:

I don’t know. Kind of seems like Galko is just throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it sticks.

 

His evidence of their interest was,

1) that he’s heard from people (although no one in the organization), that the Bills like him.

 

2) they’ve scouted him multiple times

 

my reply would be 

1) who is “they”, is it just a regional scout of something? Or is it someone like Beane. These scouting staffs aren’t small, they have groups of people who have varying interest in different players. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were people in the organization who had each of the top guys at the top of their own personal list.

 

2) Beane has scouted Rudolph multiple times himself this season. Does that mean they’re in love with him? Maybe. But it doesn’t prove anything either.

 

 

I'm not saying I know they are interested, though it certainly seems reasonable, and it should count that Galko correctly had the Bills after Trubisky last year.

 

Anyway, I was replying to someone who said that the Bills wouldn't be able to trade up that far. And there's definitely a solid chance they could. If they want to.

 

As to who his source is, that's not generally how sources work. It's reasonable to have doubts, though. Could be a smoke screen. But IMHO the fact that the same people said Trubisky last year makes it more credible.

 

 

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1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said:

not real.

fun to spin though.

i will honestly fall off my chair if Bills go up into the top five.

 Top fifteen maybe . But Bills trading away the ability to fill  ALL the holes upcoming decently means they likely need all their picks. And us a couple to trade out of ? sure.
But not multiples to get the QB. Not this season. IMHO.

Thicken up the the roster a good bit this year and when the dead money falls off ? Go for it. 

If they go for it?I am cool with that. Just seems out of character and too soon in the McBeanes career.

 First clean draft by them and all.

 

 

Not sure what you mean by "clean draft." But GMs getting their franchise QB in their first draft are actually a fairly common thing. Makes perfect sense, really, and seems very likely that it's why McD acquired the extra picks in the first place.

 

Whether the guy they want will be available is another question, of course, as is how far we'll be able to trade up.

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21 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said:

I know a franchise QB is one of the most important things to have but I cant see it being worth giving up all the picks we would need to help fill all our other needs with

 

C’mon.  Rams did it for Goff and won the division in his 2nd season.  Iggles  did it for Wentz and won Super Bowl.  Sometimes you gotta pay what the market demands to get what you want/need.

9 hours ago, BuffaloRush said:

Ironically he also said that Whaley was a fan of Money Mitch Trubisky.  There goes the DeShaun Watson narrative for Whaley supporters

 

And McDermott overruled Whaley because he was all in on Tyrod? Sigh!

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