Augie Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Vikings stable is full of FA rent-a-hosses, two with sore legs. It all depends upon what they really think of Keenum and of Bridgewater and his recovery. Keenum's the same age as Cousins. They could very well have him as The Guy, and shop some others, no doubt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Augie said: They could very well have him as The Guy, and shop some others, no doubt! Hoping to not condescend, but there seems to be confusion here. FA means "free agent". It means the player can shop himself to anyone anywhere around the league. The Vikes are shopping FOR a QB, not shopping QB - unless they got one they like to slap a tag onto and he signs it. Edited January 31, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Hoping to not condescend, but there seems to be confusion here. FA means "free agent". It means the player can shop himself to anyone anywhere around the league. The Vikes are shopping FOR a QB, not shopping QB - unless they got one they like to slap a tag onto and he signs it. No, maybe just a misunderstanding. I’m talking about shopping leftovers if they manage to sign Cousins. I don’t know the contract status of the existing 3. Gotta run right now... I’m back. Maybe it would have been more clear if I phrased it “see him as The Guy”, but i was thinking more of their wish list, and “have him” at the top. If they get Cousins, how many of the others are still under contract, and what might they fetch if shopped around? THAT is what I was trying to get at in a hurry. Edited February 1, 2018 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 hour ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Went with other... ...didn't see a category for "busted-doing-blow-while-driving" Oakland and Dallas already have QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 23 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Jets because: OC Jeremy Bates is Mike Shanahan/Kyle Shanahan/Sean McVay disciple and Cousins loves him mega cap space Sparty colors Average to decent team just missing a QB and a few pieces, not a constantly terrible team like Cleveland I get the impression that he's tired of the big market feel of DC. I don't think he ends up in NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I get the impression that he's tired of the big market feel of DC. I don't think he ends up in NY. Just posted in the other thread....FWIW Breer has the Jets as the leader in the Cousins chase, Denver a close second. As most have speculated Kirk is excited to be the guy, he won't be going to a team who wants to draft a 1st round QB behind him. He wants to be "loved" Saying the hold up with Denver is their salary cap, they are so tight that they may lose key players by trying to fit Cousins in. (Talib, Wolfe, Manny) Decent interview. Buffalo was mentioned but he didn't get excited about it or provide any depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 24 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I get the impression that he's tired of the big market feel of DC. I don't think he ends up in NY. That leaves both New Jersey teams out of it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 On 1/31/2018 at 8:11 AM, Wayne Cubed said: Cleveland backs up the brinks truck and drafts Barkley. A ton of cap room, Duke Johnson, Crowell, Josh Gordon, the best LT in football, Myles Garrett and Jabrill on defense and picks 1, 4, 33, 35, 63 and 65 in the draft, with a legit GM in Dorsey. I would seriously consider Cleveland if I'm Kirk, but Cleveland is in the most ideal situation EVER to get their guy in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 30 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I get the impression that he's tired of the big market feel of DC. I don't think he ends up in NY. That could be. He certainly appears to be an unassuming type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: That leaves both New Jersey teams out of it then. Yeah. I think it's a much better fit for him with a Denver, Buffalo, Arizona, or Minnesota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Browns have the cap room to sign Cousins then trade down from #1 and maybe #4 to do a real rebuild under Dorsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: A ton of cap room, Duke Johnson, Crowell, Josh Gordon, the best LT in football, Myles Garrett and Jabrill on defense and picks 1, 4, 33, 35, 63 and 65 in the draft, with a legit GM in Dorsey. I would seriously consider Cleveland if I'm Kirk, but Cleveland is in the most ideal situation EVER to get their guy in the draft. Not sure what he thinks of Hue and now Todd Haley though. Only problem, I can see. But they can easily give him the most up front money. Edited February 1, 2018 by Wayne Cubed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: A ton of cap room, Duke Johnson, Crowell, Josh Gordon, the best LT in football, Myles Garrett and Jabrill on defense and picks 1, 4, 33, 35, 63 and 65 in the draft, with a legit GM in Dorsey. I would seriously consider Cleveland if I'm Kirk, but Cleveland is in the most ideal situation EVER to get their guy in the draft. Crowell is a free agent and Jabrill was pretty terrible as a rookie. Cleveland has some serious talent there already though; the defense will probably be above-average next season and on offense, they have one of the best O-Lines in football, Josh Gordon, Duke Johnson, David Njoku, and whatever they can get out of the injury-prone Corey Coleman. If they play their cards right this offseason, they can be a very competitive team next year and signing Cousins would go a long way to making that happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: A ton of cap room, Duke Johnson, Crowell, Josh Gordon, the best LT in football, Myles Garrett and Jabrill on defense and picks 1, 4, 33, 35, 63 and 65 in the draft, with a legit GM in Dorsey. I would seriously consider Cleveland if I'm Kirk, but Cleveland is in the most ideal situation EVER to get their guy in the draft. Crowell sucks and is an FA who will be gone. Peppers also sucks and Greggggg is still there to play him 30 yards off the LOS. They have some young talent like Jamie Collins, Garrett and Duke and a pretty good OL if Joe Thomas doesn’t retire, but they are so young and inexperienced I think they are years away from making a serious playoff run and remember Cousins is already pushing 30. 1-31 with the same HC coming back isn’t real attractive. Most of all though, I think he avoids the Browns because of ownership. If he wasn’t comfortable in DC he won’t be comfortable with how things are run in Cleveland. Jmo its in the Browns best interest though to just draft a guy at #1. It’s a good year to do it, they gave two of the top 4 picks, and there is no need to feel they are “a QB away” - they are further than that and are building from the ground up. I do think that Dorsey may feel pressure to try to win right now after all these years of bottom feeding so it will be tempting. He created that pressure himself by coming in and declaring that he expects to challenge for the division right away. In the end I expect them to trade for or sign AJ mccarron depending on his pending UFA status/grievance and draft Darnold at #1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 42 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Yeah. I think it's a much better fit for him with a Denver, Buffalo, Arizona, or Minnesota. I just (re)read a story and it mentioned Denver and its rotating coaches and QB's over the past few years. There really isn't a lot of stability there and a cause for concern for a non-elite QB. It also mentioned Denvers Cap ... $28,498,793 40 minutes ago, ALF said: Browns have the cap room to sign Cousins then trade down from #1 and maybe #4 to do a real rebuild under Dorsey. Would you want to play for Cleveland? I hardly doubt Kirk is that desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I just (re)read a story and it mentioned Denver and its rotating coaches and QB's over the past few years. There really isn't a lot of stability there and a cause for concern for a non-elite QB. It also mentioned Denvers Cap ... $28,498,793 I also think Vance Joseph is a dead man walking. They were ready to fire him after 1 season before someone convinced elway to give him another year. I also don’t think they Defense is that great anymore and their OL is trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) has it been a full calendar year? I was looking to see why Wade left and found the following https://www.denverpost.com/2017/05/01/wade-phillips-difficult-broncos-departure/ Edited February 1, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Not sure where he is going, just won't be here, so I don't care (because he's not that good). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 I think Elway convinces Cousins to come to Denver much like he did with Peyton Manning. I think the “aura” of Elway will carry a lot of weight in these discussions. Minnesota would be my back up prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 4 hours ago, ALF said: Browns have the cap room to sign Cousins then trade down from #1 and maybe #4 to do a real rebuild under Dorsey. or sign Cousins, keep 1 and 4 and draft great players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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