nedboy7 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Savior5INTpeterman!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 45 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Beane said they want to win now and not plan for the future so I cant see Peterman being their guy I believe he said he wants to plan for winning now and plan for the winning in future, not mutually exclusive. But yes, any plan with Peterman as a starting QB seems contrary to either goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, K-9 said: Bucky Gleason couldn’t be any more less connected to both the Bills and Sabres if he tried. He has been purposely ignored, as have several in the local media, since 2011. That is a directive from on high. As as for the piece in today’s news, Bucky covered all the bases, with the idea of Petermen being just one of them. He expertly narrowed the QB question down to a free agent, a trade, a draft pick, or someone already on the roster. Bucky = Dunkirk Don?! Edited January 25, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Marv Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 15 hours ago, Mrbojanglezs said: Wow. After reading this thread my biggest takeaway is I am surprised on how many bills fans have completely given up on Peterman after one really bad outing. I don't make a decision on a guy until at least a half dozen games So you're not equally or more surprised by those anointing him the 2018 starter? He also ended our playoff game with an interception, by the way. I think those who are bit negative about his future at this point have more justification than a troll who has had a known affinity for below average Bills QB's for over a decade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, Hurricane Marv said: So you're not equally or more surprised by those anointing him the 2018 starter? He also ended our playoff game with an interception, by the way. I think those who are bit negative about his future at this point have more justification than a troll who has had a known affinity for below average Bills QB's for over a decade... I think everyone on the board overreacts to these kinds of threads, everyone wants to tear everyone down for just saying per an inside source. I take any "insider" thread with a grain of salt but I always enjoy reading them. Unfortunately they are always filled with pages of pages of "you are an idiot" "you are a troll" blah blah, I just find it all a waste of time. For your first point, I am not willing to move on from Peterman and just cut him because of his one bad game, but if the Bills are in position to get one of the top guys I am all for it but honestly I don't see it happening. So I think the realistic outcome will be a bridge QB like Bradford or Smith, or we draft a guy in the late 1st/early 2nd and if that is the case then Peterman has a real shot to be the starter this year....like it or not. Bring 3 qbs in the competition next spring, I just don't see the Bills giving away 3 1st rounders + more to get in top 5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t think that either of them is on the roster. Peterman’s best chance is for the Bills to land Cousins and skip a rookie in the draft. If the Bills sign a stop gap vet (like Bradford or Bridgewater) and draft a guy (maybe Rudolph) why would they carry 3? I'm more confident that Peterman more likely to be on the roster than TT. If he isn't then so be it. He is an inconsequential player and an exchangeable player. I don't consider him starting material.. He has the smarts for the position but lacks the physical talents. He reminds me of a second-class Frank Reich type of player. If he is on the roster he will be as a backup. The more intriguing qb issue is: Which qb is the team going to pursue in free agency? And associated with that issue is: Are the Bills going to use a high pick for a qb? If the Bills acquire a qb such as Bridgewater then they may concentrate their efforts on addressing multiple needs instead of using pick/s to get a high-end qb prospect in this drafty. I don't want to be categorized as a Taylor basher because I am not. He has served this franchise well. However, the Taylor saga has played out. It's over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: I think everyone on the board overreacts to these kinds of threads, everyone wants to tear everyone down for just saying per an inside source. I take any "insider" thread with a grain of salt but I always enjoy reading them. Unfortunately they are always filled with pages of pages of "you are an idiot" "you are a troll" blah blah, I just find it all a waste of time. You must consider the identity of the OP in order to understand the reaction to them. Reactions to source claims are generally based upon people's opinions of the poster offering them. Edited January 25, 2018 by ndirish1978 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Marv Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Mrbojanglezs said: I think everyone on the board overreacts to these kinds of threads, everyone wants to tear everyone down for just saying per an inside source. I take any "insider" thread with a grain of salt but I always enjoy reading them. Unfortunately they are always filled with pages of pages of "you are an idiot" "you are a troll" blah blah, I just find it all a waste of time. For your first point, I am not willing to move on from Peterman and just cut him because of his one bad game, but if the Bills are in position to get one of the top guys I am all for it but honestly I don't see it happening. So I think the realistic outcome will be a bridge QB like Bradford or Smith, or we draft a guy in the late 1st/early 2nd and if that is the case then Peterman has a real shot to be the starter this year....like it or not. Bring 3 qbs in the competition next spring, I just don't see the Bills giving away 3 1st rounders + more to get in top 5. People overreact because SaviorEdwards has been doing this since 2006... I think this thread is just as much a response to his nonsense as it is an actual discussion over Peterman's future. If Peterman was gone tomorrow and the Bills drafted another QB project in the 6th round next year, Savor would have a new obsession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 On 1/24/2018 at 12:40 PM, Royale with Cheese said: People that are involved in high level business meetings don't call them high level business meetings. You googled business terms last time you talked about these meetings to sound legit but it only made you sound robotic. He's like that character from Bojack horseman. Vincent adultman. Unfortunately I don't have enough power business to watch cartoons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Well, considering Darnold will probably be the first QB off the board I doubt the Bills will land him. Anything anyone says from a team standpoint is most likely just smoke because they don't want their real intentions known to anyone. As far as the ZERO interest in Mayfield, Jackson, and Rudolph can't be believed because if one of those guys is there when they pick they will take them. I get the idea they might even trade up for Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, JohnC said: I'm more confident that Peterman more likely to be on the roster than TT. If he isn't then so be it. He is an inconsequential player and an exchangeable player. I don't consider him starting material.. He has the smarts for the position but lacks the physical talents. He reminds me of a second-class Frank Reich type of player. If he is on the roster he will be as a backup. The more intriguing qb issue is: Which qb is the team going to pursue in free agency? And associated with that issue is: Are the Bills going to use a high pick for a qb? If the Bills acquire a qb such as Bridgewater then they may concentrate their efforts on addressing multiple needs instead of using pick/s to get a high-end qb prospect in this drafty. I don't want to be categorized as a Taylor basher because I am not. He has served this franchise well. However, the Taylor saga has played out. It's over! They are independent of one another. Tyrod wont be on the roster and Peterman might. Peterman will depend on what they do with the position . A high end FA or trade probably is his best chance. A bridge vet and an early draft pick isn’t good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: They are independent of one another. Tyrod wont be on the roster and Peterman might. Peterman will depend on what they do with the position . A high end FA or trade probably is his best chance. A bridge vet and an early draft pick isn’t good for him. You know the thing is I really want to like Peterman......he has accuracy...he has wheels.... He needs time......I dont for a second think the bills are hitching their wagon to just Peterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) How can people chalk Peterman up to being bad already? He played one half of football. You cannot base ANY quarterback on a half of a football game. Remeber when we beat the Patriots back in 2011? Brady threw 4 interceptions in that game. FOUR. a guy who had 11 years experience, superbowl wins, and multiple playoff berths. My point is, you cannot base one game on a person's talent/longevity Edited January 25, 2018 by Steptide 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Marv Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, John from Hemet said: You know the thing is I really want to like Peterman......he has accuracy...he has wheels.... He needs time......I dont for a second think the bills are hitching their wagon to just Peterman Does he really have wheels though? His 40 time was slower than Watson, Trubisky, Davis Webb, Mahomes, Watson, other dudes who don't matter, etc., and he never really proved this in a game. Wonder where this is coming from as he certainly doesn't have "speed" in a Mariota / Tyrod sense. Are we just assuming that he can rumble if given the chance a la Blake Bortles? Genuinely curious. Edited January 25, 2018 by Hurricane Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Hurricane Marv said: Does he really have wheels though? His 40 time was slower than Watson, Trubisky, Davis Webb, Mahomes, Watson, other dudes who don't matter, etc., and he never really proved this in a game. Wonder where this is coming from as he certainly doesn't have "speed" in a Mariota / Tyrod sense. Are we just assuming that he can rumble if given the chance a la Blake Bortles? Genuinely curious. JMO but I think he has reasonable mobility/short area quickness. He can only earn his keep as a passer but he can help himself out at times with his legs provided he gets his head out of harms way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, billsredneck1 said: and he was in that game situation because of why?.....we couldn't get in the endzone the entire game?....and then it was on the spot pull it out duty? Uh... yeah. Backups prepare like they're starting week in and week out. If this kid is as "cerebral" and "pro ready" as people make him out to be, he should've seen on film study that the Jags secondary is fast as hell, Ramsey especially. We can take a little of the blame off Peterman and throw Dennison under the bus for calling a crap game and not being able to adjust and find ways to beat their defense. But again, they know Ramsey goes all over the field, he's a ball hawk and a playmaker. And Peterman oughta know his own arm because if you're gonna throw that out-route on Ramsey you better let it fly the moment you hit your final step in your dropback and an accurate ball hits the receiver right in the numbers as soon as he breaks his route and turns around. Instead Peterman waited at the top of his dropback, threw a weak ball, Ramsey covered a bunch of field in a split second and picked him off. And he was in the game because Taylor got his bell rung and this current regime felt comfortable with a 5th round rookie as their primary backup. Edited January 25, 2018 by blacklabel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 On 1/24/2018 at 1:59 PM, billsfan11 said: Shows flashes? What exactly has he shown? The odd time he wont throw an interception, maybe? Very good decisiveness. Quick release. Glaringly obvious when compared to Tyrod. Look at him like a scout, not like a fan. Undersized and potentially weak arm, sure. But there is some potential upstairs. SD game was terrible, everyone agrees, but imagine everybody gave up on you on your first day at the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Marv Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, musichunch said: Very good decisiveness. Quick release. Glaringly obvious when compared to Tyrod. Look at him like a scout, not like a fan. Undersized and potentially weak arm, sure. But there is some potential upstairs. SD game was terrible, everyone agrees, but imagine everybody gave up on you on your first day at the job. It's more like everybody giving up on you after five months of intensive training after watching you **** your pants during your first presentation. 90 day reviews exist for a reason. Edited January 25, 2018 by Hurricane Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 It's not talked about much but Peterman played pretty solid in the snow game until he made the dumb decision to dive headfirst instead of safely sliding. I do believe if he had played the full game he would've led the Bills to a W. He needs to shake off that INT bug in preseason. After that SD debacle, when DB's see Peterman in the game they are cheating to get a jump on the ball. He needs to make them pay and a good O-coordinator and help him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, Hurricane Marv said: It's more like everybody giving up on you after five months of intensive training only to watch you **** your pants during your first presentation. Exactly. Training for the hardest job in sports. If the coaching staff loves him, and they see him everyday, I'm interesting in seeing more. Your thought process is nasty. And says a lot about how you view yourself when you have a bad day. I hope Peterman has more self-esteem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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