Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Low price competition? Yeah. Him, Peterman, and the rookie would be adequate for me. I'd like the Bills to just develop their own franchise QB. Something they've never done. It would not be adequate for me. He would take the place of TJax in the Seahawks Flynn/Wilson/TJax triad, or of Chase Daniels in the Eagles QB search. Edited January 20, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Cousins or AJ, or Bridgewater, despite the risk and I would be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I actually think that he gets more than Bridgewater. McCarron to me fits in that stopgap tier with Bridgewater, Tyrod, Bradford, McCown, Alex Smith and maybe a few I’m forgetting. Those are the guys that you can have if you’ve invested an eary pick on a QB. I don’t think that you can commit to McCarron though as the guy. His resume is short like a draft pick but you will have to pay him $12m plus (conservatively). I think AJ McCarron asks for, and gets, at least Chase Daniel money. Which was 3 year, $21M as I recall. Edited January 20, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think AJ McCarron asks for, and gets, at least Chase Daniel money. Which was 3 year, $21M as I recall. He’s getting a lot more than that. The Browns offered more for McCarron than the 49ers did for Garropolo. Teams have worlds of cap space at the moment. I think that he is getting 2 years $24M with $20M guaranteed as a starting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: He’s getting a lot more than that. The Browns offered more for McCarron than the 49ers did for Garropolo. Teams have worlds of cap space at the moment. I think that he is getting 2 years $24M with $20M guaranteed as a starting point. The amount that you mentioned would be a good fit for Buffalo from a money and bridge standpoint if the Bills drafted a qb with a high round pick. And sometimes things work out beyond one's expectation where the bridge qb turns out to be better than expected. (My assumption is that TT will be gone. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Just now, JohnC said: The amount that you mentioned would be a good fit for Buffalo from a money and bridge standpoint if the Bills drafted a qb with a high round pick. And sometimes things work out beyond one's expectation where the bridge qb turns out to be better than expected. (My assumption is that TT will be gone. ) I agree and think that the bridge option is the route that the Bills go. Bring in a guy capable of starting (preferably with some upside) and draft a guy early. McCarron and Bridgewater seem to check that box for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I agree and think that the bridge option is the route that the Bills go. Bring in a guy capable of starting (preferably with some upside) and draft a guy early. McCarron and Bridgewater seem to check that box for me. I'm confused as to McCarron's contract status? Will he be a free agent or will a trade have to be executed to get him? off topic: Canisius won again in a TV game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I like Mccarron. If he is here I will be excited. There are guys I would want here more at this point, but I’m good with him as an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, JohnC said: I'm confused as to McCarron's contract status? Will he be a free agent or will a trade have to be executed to get him? off topic: Canisius won again in a TV game. I watched the game. They looked good. A lot of young talent for that league. Reese had a HUGE 2nd half. McCarron is actually in a bit of a contract dispute to become and UFA. I guess that he is TBD as of now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 8 hours ago, EricScott said: The reports are that the Browns were ready to give the Bengals a second and a third round pick for him in their botched trade attempt. That's literally a higher price than the Pats got from the 49'ers for Jimmy G. He's only 27 and doesn't have a lot of tread on the tires. I guess I'm just puzzled by the seeming lack of interest in him on this board. I just think getting him for a relatively reasonable rate and having all of our picks available to make the team around him stronger is at least something to think about. Is Mason Rudolph, for example, any less of a gamble than McCarron would be? We are not talking runningbacks here. The no tread is a cute way of saying inexperienced. I dont trust Qbs when a team is willing to trade them within their own division. Cleveland was offering a hefty price but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, JohnC said: I'm confused as to McCarron's contract status? Will he be a free agent or will a trade have to be executed to get him? You're confused just like McCarron's contract status is confusing. McCarron will be a restricted free agent in 2018. McCarron has filed a grievance with the NFL. The Bengals placed him on Non Football Injury at the start of training camp his rookie season, 2014. He passed his rookie physical The Bengals put him on the roster Dec 9th. McCarron asserts he was healthy enough to come off the list during TC and gain an accrued season in 2014, which would make him an unrestricted FA this off-season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Not that I dislike McCarron, but I think he only has 133 career passes and pretty limited playing experience. Rather see a more vetted vet to compete with (and help) the drafted rookie and Peterman. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 9 hours ago, EricScott said: The reports are that the Browns were ready to give the Bengals a second and a third round pick for him in their botched trade attempt. That's literally a higher price than the Pats got from the 49'ers for Jimmy G. He's only 27 and doesn't have a lot of tread on the tires. I guess I'm just puzzled by the seeming lack of interest in him on this board. I just think getting him for a relatively reasonable rate and having all of our picks available to make the team around him stronger is at least something to think about. Is Mason Rudolph, for example, any less of a gamble than McCarron would be? Reports are that the Browns were ready to give NE a higher price than the Pats got from the 49ers for Jimmy G - at least a 1st round pick, maybe more. Reports also are that the Browns would have been giving the Bengals a 2nd and 3rd round pick for an 8 game rental, since McCarron had already filed his grievance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, PeterGriffin said: What makes him any more desirable to want to play opposed to our own 5th round pick? Really good question. I hope someone will answer from the "what did he show in college"? perspective. He has started 3 games his 1st accrued season (2nd year in the league). Low passing yardage, good completion percentage, good TD/INT percentage, did enough for them to win. I would give McCarron the edge on "shows NFL level ability to know what he doesn't know" as far as reading D and identifying coverage, but plenty of open questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) All I would care about is: 1) Does he throw before the break? 2) Does he understand why teams have wideouts? 3) Does he release the ball in under 3 seconds? 4) Does he throw more than 4 yards when the 1st down marker is 5 yards away? 5) Does a sub 60 yard passing game and his name not appear together anywhere? If so, great. Sign him. (Hmm, also check that he doesn't have slow eyes, let's not go back two steps!) Edited January 20, 2018 by Green Lightning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) AJ McCarron wouldn't be much different than breaking in a new rookie. You still better have a Alex Smith for a year or so to see what you have in McCarron before throwing him the keys Edited January 20, 2018 by ddaryl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 i keep thinking the Bengals will keep A.j and trade Dalton. would you trade a 3 for Dalton ? 39 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: All I would care about is: 1) Does he throw before the break? 2) Does he understand why teams have wideouts? 3) Does he release the ball in under 3 seconds? 4) Does he throw more than 4 yards when the 1st down marker is 5 yards away? 5) Does a sub 60 yard passing game and his name not appear together anywhere? If so, great. Sign him. (Hmm, also check that he doesn't have slow eyes, let's not go back two steps!) I think we have the only qb that doesn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Is Brady's kid throwin' the ball yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, baskingridgebillsfan said: i keep thinking the Bengals will keep A.j and trade Dalton. would you trade a 3 for Dalton ? I think it's a moot point. I don't think the Bengals trade Dalton for a 3rd. Certainly not for AJ McCarron. As someone else already commented, if they thought he was better than Dalton, why didn't they vote with their depth chart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 12 hours ago, EricScott said: Apparently, if McCarron comes out ahead in his grievance against the Bengals, then he becomes a free agent. I don't have a strong opinion either way, but I haven't seen his name mentioned much on this board, and I'm wondering if he might be worthy of discussion as a possible FA target. He would likely come at a fraction of the cost of a Teddy Bridgewater, for example, and yet he does seem to be an under the radar type who might be worth a gamble. Thoughts? Not a fan of McCarron in terms of him playing for the Buffalo Bills. I'm much more a fan of his wife. What is she up to these days? Perhaps the organization could hire her as some type of on-screen TV personality publicizing the team, doing team interviews and what not? She's much better looking than John Murphy. In fact, can we replace "Murph" with Katherine Webb entirely? She can probably do his radio show just as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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