Section242 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 10 minutes ago, KelsaysLunchbox said: I refuse to believe anyone could be worse than Wayne Fontes or Kay Stephenson ??? Richie Kotite, Marty Morhinweig, Ray Rhodes, still 1-31 and he may have a job is incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 The Browns will be victorious this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 hours ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: "My favorite Browns stat. The quarterback with the most wins in Cleveland since 1999 is Ben Roethlisberger with 11." That’s hilarious until you consider that the same could be said of brady and the bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Big C said: Honestly the Browns roster isn't all that bad. Josh Gordon, Corey Coleman, Isaiah Crowell, Duke Johnson and Njoku would not be a bad group of weapons for a QB to inherit. Pretty good OL (assuming Joe Thomas keeps playing), Myles Garrett, Jaime Collins... If they manage to get the right QB for once, they will make a pretty big jump. Maybe not playoff ready, but kind of like our teams over the past few years. Thats right. It’s about the QB and all else will fall in place. Their drafting is suspect,but so are a lot of teams. I suspect with a new GM who actually knows what he’s doing that the Browns may be a much better team in a couple years. Dont be surprised if the Browns trade their second first rounder to the Bills to gain more quality picks. Just a thought, why did we trade with KC instead of Houston? I had been told Houston wanted to trade with the Bills for 10. edit. I remember now why we didn’t trade. Houston wasn’t offering their first but a package taking us out of the first round. The had their chance but called our bluff with regards to KC. Once KC took one of the two QBs they wanted it was then they pulled the trigger. Edited December 29, 2017 by dlonce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I'd rather go 0-16 than 8-8. Everyone tried to warn McD about this happening...now, let’s seem him pull a franchise QB out of his ass with that mediocre record. Edited December 29, 2017 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: The Browns will be victorious this weekend. ....Hypothermia Hugh on deck............. Hue Jackson plans to keep promise and jump into Lake Erie after another sad Browns season 1 comment That lake, during *this* time of year? That’s mighty cold. By Harry Lyles Jr.@harrylylesjr Dec 27, 2017, 3:44pm EST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, Section242 said: Richie Kotite, Marty Morhinweig, Ray Rhodes, still 1-31 and he may have a job is incredible. What's even more incredible...there were reports a few weeks ago saying the Bengals were interested in trading for a coach with a 1-31 record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Um yes. Even with Big Ben and Bell out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 13 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....Hypothermia Hugh on deck............. Hue Jackson plans to keep promise and jump into Lake Erie after another sad Browns season 1 comment That lake, during *this* time of year? That’s mighty cold. By Harry Lyles Jr.@harrylylesjr Dec 27, 2017, 3:44pm EST They will have to cut a hole in the ice first.Its frozen on that end now. Hue Jacksons a terrible coach. There were numerous Bills fans clamoring for that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, dlonce said: They will have to cut a hole in the ice first.Its frozen on that end now. Hue Jacksons a terrible coach. There were numerous Bills fans clamoring for that guy. ....so he has the perfect "out"......smart dude..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Big C said: Honestly the Browns roster isn't all that bad. Josh Gordon, Corey Coleman, Isaiah Crowell, Duke Johnson and Njoku would not be a bad group of weapons for a QB to inherit. Pretty good OL (assuming Joe Thomas keeps playing), Myles Garrett, Jaime Collins... If they manage to get the right QB for once, they will make a pretty big jump. Maybe not playoff ready, but kind of like our teams over the past few years. Their roster top to bottom is terrible and has no depth. How many Browns players would start on most teams? Not more than 3 most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Their roster top to bottom is terrible and has no depth. How many Browns players would start on most teams? Not more than 3 most likely. ...who is MORE deserving of misery? A. Haslam B. Jurry Jones C. Boy Danny Snyder D. All of the aoove ...D is the slam dunk............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 54 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: That’s hilarious until you consider that the same could be said of brady and the bills. And Belichik too. Disgustingly he has 16 wins at Ralph Wilson /New Era field. I think the last Bills coach to total that many home wins was Wade Phillips. So yeah, just like the Browns, Bills opponent actually has most wins on their field since 99'. Getting into the playoffs would be nice way to start changing the tone. That Forward lateral has been a true curse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Coleman and Crowell suck imo but they do have a few good pieces. They rebuilt the OL last year - I am pretty sure Joe Thomas will be back too. They are very poorly coached. I thought Hue had potential to be a good HC. I wanted him here, instead of Sexy Rexy. Joe Thomas speaks well of him. Are we wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I thought Hue had potential to be a good HC. I wanted him here, instead of Sexy Rexy. Joe Thomas speaks well of him. Are we wrong? When did you think he had potential? In 2016? 2017? I honestly don't know how anyone could pump for this guy as a HC. It's stunning. He's uncommonly awful--even ranked against truly awful coaches who have coached that historically awful team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: When did you think he had potential? In 2016? 2017? I honestly don't know how anyone could pump for this guy as a HC. It's stunning. He's uncommonly awful--even ranked against truly awful coaches who have coached that historically awful team. Sorry thought it was clear. Instead of Sexy Rexy, so I thought Hue had potential when we were HC shopping, January 2015. Are you being rhetorical there? Rumor had it Hue was Whaley's top candidate, and negotiations were underway to try to persuade Schwartz to stay as DC since he wasn't drawing HC interviews. In hindsight, DD didn't confirm those rumors so IDK. Hue did a good job as Gruden's replacement for the Bengal's OC, and certainly their offense tanked after he left. Joe Thomas durn near came out and said the Browns talent cupboard has been stripped bare the last 2 years and he doesn't think Jackson is to blame for the Browns results. OTOH Yolo (and I guess you) think he's done badly. Can you give a few specific examples you feel point to poor coaching? I don't watch the Browns enough to have a personal view, but Jackson wouldn't be the first HC to plough up with the Browns then do well if he gets another shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I thought Hue had potential to be a good HC. I wanted him here, instead of Sexy Rexy. Joe Thomas speaks well of him. Are we wrong? I don’t know anyone who thinks Hue is a good HC except for Hue. He refused to hire an OC this season and got rid of all vet QBs. Started a rookie and had inexperienced 2nd year guys backing him up. Then ragged on the rookie all year. Last year he inexplicably yanked last year’s rookie Cody Kessler ( who he insisted on draft day was his guy and we’d just have to “trust him”) at halftime of a TNF game at Baltimore while they were winning - to insert mccown. They lost. He refuses to give the ball to Duke Johnson for some reason, his best and most consistent offensive player. After telling everyone Kessler was his guy he leaks to the media that he wanted Wentz but it was sashi’s Fault. Then he wanted garroppolo and that was sashi’s Fault. He then wanted Aj McCarron and well... you know that story. He leaks all this through his media buddy mike silver. There are really way too many examples. He could probably be a decent OC again but just a pitiful HC imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t know anyone who thinks Hue is a good HC except for Hue. He refused to hire an OC this season and got rid of all vet QBs. Started a rookie and had inexperienced 2nd year guys backing him up. Then ragged on the rookie all year. Last year he inexplicably yanked last year’s rookie Cody Kessler ( who he insisted on draft day was his guy and we’d just have to “trust him”) at halftime of a TNF game at Baltimore while they were winning - to insert mccown. They lost. He refuses to give the ball to Duke Johnson for some reason, his best and most consistent offensive player. After telling everyone Kessler was his guy he leaks to the media that he wanted Wentz but it was sashi’s Fault. Then he wanted garroppolo and that was sashi’s Fault. He then wanted Aj McCarron and well... you know that story. He leaks all this through his media buddy mike silver. There are really way too many examples. He could probably be a decent OC again but just a pitiful HC imo. Sounds like a media campaign by Hue to get rid of Sashi? Joe Thomas more or less said Hue was leading a successful two-year tank campaign, and who knows who was behind the shedding of vet QB But yes, I'll take the leaks and backbiting as evidence of "not a good HC". Edited December 30, 2017 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 18 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Everyone tried to warn McD about this happening...now, let’s seem him pull a franchise QB out of his ass with that mediocre record. The team was never bad enough to go 0-16. The players would never go for it. If they did, it is destructive to the team to take such a dive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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