Dr.Sack Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Listening to his post game presser and watching many games this season I had to posit where does his decision making come from? In other words does he make decisions based upon facts-data or a belief system that is rooted in conviction coming from religious belief? Sean McDermott is a devout Christian. I’ve listened to many interviews where he is outward in professing Christian faith. I’m curious, today on 4th & 1 down 7 in the 4th quarter did McDermott make a decision with confidence knowing he has a better statistical probability to win the game going for it as opposed to attempting a 50 yard field goal? It appears that McDermott is making decisions based on ‘conviction’ as opposed to scientific ‘data’. In the modern NFL game we see leading franchises make decisions based on scientific analytical data such as a win probability calculations. Perhaps McDermott can learn to put his faith in game theory and data moving forward. Looking forward past this season does McDermott want his franchise QB to be a Christian? Is that a prerequisite? Nathan Peterman seems to fit this mold. He grew up outside of Jacksonville home of Tim Tebow, and has outwardly professed his Christian faith. I have nothing against faith, but is faith blinding McDermott from making the right decisions to guide this team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 We're now to the "throw anything at the wall and see what sticks" phase, I see... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: Listening to his post game presser and watching many games this season I had to posit where does his decision making come from? In other words does he make decisions based upon facts-data or a belief system that is rooted in conviction coming from religious belief? Sean McDermott is a devout Christian. I’ve listened to many interviews where he is outward in professing Christian faith. I’m curious, today on 4th & 1 down 7 in the 4th quarter did McDermott make a decision with confidence knowing he has a better statistical probability to win the game going for it as opposed to attempting a 50 yard field goal? It appears that McDermott is making decisions based on ‘conviction’ as opposed to scientific ‘data’. In the modern NFL game we see leading franchises make decisions based on scientific analytical data such as a win probability calculations. Perhaps McDermott can learn to put his faith in game theory and data moving forward. Looking forward past this season does McDermott want his franchise QB to be a Christian? Is that a prerequisite? Nathan Peterman seems to fit this mold. He grew up outside of Jacksonville home of Tim Tebow, and has outwardly professed his Christian faith. I have nothing against faith, but is faith blinding McDermott from making the right decisions to guide this team? Are honestly questioning his coaching ability due to his faith? Do you know how many Christians are in the NFL that are successful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Dude is a nut less HC. Officially done with him as of today. Roll out the list of new HC’s... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 People who start these threads have no testicular fortitude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: Listening to his post game presser and watching many games this season I had to posit where does his decision making come from? In other words does he make decisions based upon facts-data or a belief system that is rooted in conviction coming from religious belief? Sean McDermott is a devout Christian. I’ve listened to many interviews where he is outward in professing Christian faith. I’m curious, today on 4th & 1 down 7 in the 4th quarter did McDermott make a decision with confidence knowing he has a better statistical probability to win the game going for it as opposed to attempting a 50 yard field goal? It appears that McDermott is making decisions based on ‘conviction’ as opposed to scientific ‘data’. In the modern NFL game we see leading franchises make decisions based on scientific analytical data such as a win probability calculations. Perhaps McDermott can learn to put his faith in game theory and data moving forward. Looking forward past this season does McDermott want his franchise QB to be a Christian? Is that a prerequisite? Nathan Peterman seems to fit this mold. He grew up outside of Jacksonville home of Tim Tebow, and has outwardly professed his Christian faith. I have nothing against faith, but is faith blinding McDermott from making the right decisions to guide this team? I think he is a good non-gameday head coach. His team does not quit and is generally very prepared. I think his calling is being a DC, not a HC. He consistently makes questionable if not wrong decisions during games. But with the caveat that this is his first season as a HC. He could well figure that out and end up being a very good HC. Edited December 24, 2017 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I seriously doubt his faith has anything to do with his coaching decisions. I'm a Christian. And I am one of the most analytical, statistical, data-driven people you would ever meet. Early in the game (with 3 quarters ahead of him), McDermott saw nothing wrong with being aggressive. Late in the game and down 7, he panicked and just wanted to get away with some points. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasaluki Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Lol the Browns front office brags about analytics and sabremetrics, and the power of their scientific method. The Browns are about to go 0-16. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Christian. Muslim, Hindu, I don't care...we have a lousy HC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 38 minutes ago, McBean said: Dude is a nut less HC. Officially done with him as of today. Roll out the list of new HC’s... I agree with this ☝? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 We have had a bunch of coaches make that same call. Every time the kick has been missed or the Bills have lost we have called the coach names. I give the OP credit for taking a new approach to attacking the HC for the FG attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Going for the FG there makes Baby Jesus cry. Jesus wants coaches with balls and who understands basic game management strat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 It’s a question that needs to be asked. It seems that McDermott is far removed from probability. He’s not doing himself any favors punting in OT against the Colts playing not to lose, or kicking FGs down 7. He’s playing conservative - not to lose football, and that won’t win football games. It’s telling New England scored 24 second half points while we managed 3. The biggest game of the year & McDermott went with a kick that had at best a 55% probability, that still would have put him at a 4 point deficit. It just isn’t good game management. Extending the drive and trying to get 7 to tie was his best hope. Instead it was a quick 14 point swing. I’ll ask anyone on this board, does anyone here have any doubt what Belichick would have done if the situation was reversed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I think you would make a better argument if you could back up this assertion with a population study showing that there was a correlation between devout beliefs and the lack of aptitude in basic math and science. There are a lot of people who are bad at that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Coaches are not going to go by some big data analysis of historical games. He's going to take things like, how is my defense playing? At that time, good. If I kick a FG and then they kick a FG I'm within a TD still. Makes sense. Coaches like Coach McDermott don't want to risk it all on one play when they don't have to. They call it "extending the game". It's who he is. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Coaches are not going to go by some big data analysis of historical games. He's going to take things like, how is my defense playing? At that time, good. If I kick a FG and then they kick a FG I'm within a TD still. Makes sense. Coaches like Coach McDermott don't want to risk it all on one play when they don't have to. They call it "extending the game". It's who he is. Deal with it. It might make sense to some, but it's still wrong. "Extending the game" like that lessens your chance of winning the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, McBean said: Dude is a nut less HC. Officially done with him as of today. Roll out the list of new HC’s... Done with him after playing arguably the best team in the NFL competively for most of the game, in a stadium where winning at all has been rare for over a decade, with the refs catering to them, with his team not having much of a qb??? I don't think there's a coach pout there that could please you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: It might make sense to some, but it's still wrong. "Extending the game" like that lessens your chance of winning the game. It didn't vs the Colts. Edited December 24, 2017 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Just now, reddogblitz said: It didn't vs the Colts. Yes it did. They jut got lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Just now, Domdab99 said: Yes it did. They jut got lucky. We won the game. Obviously it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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