Anyone know what Hughes said?

[plenzmd1]

46 minutes ago, JohnC said:

No one is justifying the way Gronk responded after White intercepted the ball.  He even said his response was irresponsible, and he apologized for it. What more do you want? Gronk does not have a history of reckless play. In fact, he is usually the player who is frequently abused on the field. I'm sure the league will get involved and fine him. Does he warrant a suspension? I don't believe so because he doesn't have a history of reckless play. 

We are just going to disagree on this issue. As I said in a response to Plezmid Gronk does not have a history of dangerous play. The TE lost control of his emotions and then recklessly responded. He acknowledge and apologized for his actions. Was it sincere? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt where you don't. So be it. 

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Holy Cow john, am i reading this correct? You think as long as it's your first offense, and you apologize, you get carte blanch on the field to do whatever you want? He dove at defenseless players head and pile drove him with an elbow. PLease tell what you do feel would be suspendable??? Does the players head actually need to dislodged for the body? 

 

As YOLO said, i usually enjoy your posts even though we rarely agree, but this one is just so far out there I find it hard to comprehend. Its almost like you are saying "the Pats are better than everyone else, they are not coached this way, let it go"

[John from Riverside]

Im having a really hard time blaming Hughes here......I mean he didnt even come up to the refs it was HALFWAY ACROSS THE FIELD

 

in Jerry's world that is restraint

[Heathcliff]

1 hour ago, JohnC said:

No one is justifying the way Gronk responded after White intercepted the ball.  He even said his response was irresponsible, and he apologized for it. What more do you want? Gronk does not have a history of reckless play. In fact, he is usually the player who is frequently abused on the field. I'm sure the league will get involved and fine him. Does he warrant a suspension? I don't believe so because he doesn't have a history of reckless play. 

We are just going to disagree on this issue. As I said in a response to Plezmid Gronk does not have a history of dangerous play. The TE lost control of his emotions and then recklessly responded. He acknowledge and apologized for his actions. Was it sincere? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt where you don't. So be it. 

 

After reading several of your inputs on this subject I have concluded you are either related to Gronk, an old friend (he did grow up in Amherst), or a NE fan.  I cannot justify in any shape or form being that enraged to intentionally try to inflict damage to a defenseless player (person).  Not sure how you can objectively take this position.

 

Note: I will not respond to your rebuttal as I do NOT normally voice my opinion on this site about another member, but this one I just cannot control myself.

[JohnC]

9 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

Holy Cow john, am i reading this correct? You think as long as it's your first offense, and you apologize, you get carte blanch on the field to do whatever you want? He dove at defenseless players head and pile drove him with an elbow. PLease tell what you do feel would be suspendable??? Does the players head actually need to dislodged for the body? 

 

As YOLO said, i usually enjoy your posts even though we rarely agree, but this one is just so far out there I find it hard to comprehend. Its almost like you are saying "the Pats are better than everyone else, they are not coached this way, let it go"

No one is saying that because he doesn't have a history of dirty play that he shouldn't be held accountable. The league should certainly take a look at it. However, the history of how a player plays certainly comes into play when judging one play. Would I consider meting out harsher punishment if a player such as Burfict with an ignominious history of reckless? Absolutely yes! 

 

In my view this play is being over sensationalized because the home team was so pathetic on the field. It is a convenient distraction from the ugly display of the home team's performance on the field. Especially the offense it was embarrassing. The player in question acknowledge that he reacted poorly on the play. He apologized for it. Was he sincere? 

Whether it was or nor not I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt because he normally plays within the bounds. 

3 minutes ago, Heathcliff said:

 

After reading several of your inputs on this subject I have concluded you are either related to Gronk, an old friend (he did grow up in Amherst), or a NE fan.  I cannot justify in any shape or form being that enraged to intentionally try to inflict damage to a defenseless player (person).  Not sure how you can objectively take this position.

 

Note: I will not respond to your rebuttal as I do NOT normally voice my opinion on this site about another member, but this one I just cannot control myself.

I offer no rebuttal to such a childish response. 

[plenzmd1]

John, you are just losing me here. I don't care what the score of the game is, and if the Bills have 2 wins or 12, or if a player has ever had a suspendable offense before, you are responsible for your actions. Somehow trying this to score of game, or people looking to draw attention away from the pathetic Bills, that's just not the case. This is plain and simple a dangerous, dangerous, headshot to a defenseless player, it is in a word EVERYTHING the NFL professes to want out of the game.

 

Damn, they suspended Talib/Crabtree cause they said they put some league on the sideline in danger..Tre being fave down on his stomach getting piled drove by Gronkowski is not putting league personnel in danger?  

 

In your own words, in New England, "players are held accountable!!!!" should Gronk not be held accountable? Truly, please answer the question others and I have asked, what would Gronk have to do in order to be suspended. 

 

And i don't give a rats behind whether he apologized or not, you do the crime 

Edited December 4, 2017 by plenzmd1

[reddogblitz]

I think The Gronk should be suspended in the interest of player safety.  NFL cares about that stuff, right?

Edited December 4, 2017 by reddogblitz

[JohnC]

17 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

John, you are just losing me here. I don't care what the score of the game is, and if the Bills have 2 wins or 12, or if a player has ever had a suspendable offense before, you are responsible for your actions. Somehow trying this to score of game, or people looking to draw attention away from the pathetic Bills, that's just not the case. This is plain and simple a dangerous, dangerous, headshot to a defenseless player, it is in a word EVERYTHING the NFL professes to want out of the game.

 

Damn, they suspended Talib/Crabtree cause they said they put some league on the sideline in danger..Tre being fave down on his stomach getting piled drove by Gronkowski is not putting league personnel in danger?  

 

In your own words, in New England, "players are held accountable!!!!" should Gronk not be held accountable? Truly, please answer the question others and I have asked, what would Gronk have to do in order to be suspended. 

 

And i don't give a rats behind whether he apologized or not, you do the crime 

The league reviewed the play and reports are that he is being suspended for a game. There was no special treatment for him by the league. Did the ref use poor judgment in not throwing him out? Probably so. But bad calls get reviewed all the time post game by the league. That how the system works. 

[plenzmd1]

9 minutes ago, JohnC said:

The league reviewed the play and reports are that he is being suspended for a game. There was no special treatment for him by the league. Did the ref use poor judgment in not throwing him out? Probably so. But bad calls get reviewed all the time post game by the league. That how the system works. 

To be fair, I never said he would receive special treatment. I said I expected a suspension, he deserved a suspension, and he received a suspension. 

[jr1]

time's running out for Jerry to get a ring. I don't really blame him for his outbursts 

[C.Biscuit97]

Instead of whining to the official and getting yet another stupid penalty, he could have been a man and went after Gronk.  I loved the trade but Hughes best skill is taking dumb penalties and cheap shorting people.

[4merper4mer]

1 hour ago, Misterbluesky said:

Watch Hughes take a shot at Brady in three weeks.knee or head.

Don't miss.

[JohnC]

23 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

To be fair, I never said he would receive special treatment. I said I expected a suspension, he deserved a suspension, and he received a suspension. 

As far as I'm concerned the level of outrage is beyond the level of transgression for a play. He lost his cool and foolishly reacted. He acknowledged it and apologized for it. As to whether he was sincere or not I don't care if he was or was not. It was probably more of a self-serving response. The play was rightly reviewed by the league and they gave out a reasonable punishment. Again, the system worked the way it is supposed to work. 

[BuffaloHokie13]

I'm guessing he asked how much Kraft was paying them, in a colorful way.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, JohnC said:

As far as I'm concerned the level of outrage is beyond the level of transgression for a play. He lost his cool and foolishly reacted. He acknowledged it and apologized for it. As to whether he was sincere or not I don't care if he was or was not. It was probably more of a self-serving response. The play was rightly reviewed by the league and they gave out a reasonable punishment. Again, the system worked the way it is supposed to work. 

He lost his cool? For what? 

 

that was a blatant elbow brace to the back of the head. 

[Fadingpain]

4 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

There is that other reddit view that shows it’s even worse that the original tv replay angle.  

 

You actually see gronk stutter stepping to line up his elbow drop right on 3ds head and neck.

 

that was as deliberate an attempt to inflict injury as I’ve seen in a while...

 

And then he inadvertently kicked him in the head with his foot after the atomic elbow drop, just to add insult to injury.

 

If there is no huge revenge made on Gronk, which should be big enough to become the talk of the league, I am going to be really pissed off.  I love that we are playing them again so soon.

 

 

[KW95 - JA17]

4 hours ago, Misterbluesky said:

Watch Hughes take a shot at Brady in three weeks.knee or head.

 

 

Haha! I bet they never call his name all game.  Bills will get killed 27-0 at half and the Pats rest their starters after the half.

[Turk71]

10 hours ago, Jerome007 said:

 

No comparison between what Gronk did and what Landry did. Landry deserved to be taken out.

 

As for Hughes IDK what he said, but he gets flagged for it, and easily in any case. Who doesn't remember his 15 yard penalty for playfully bashing his TEAMMATE. Refs are biased and that'.

s not good.

 

And what with the retarded rule that 2 penalties offset 1? 

You are right, what Gronk did was even worse. Landry took a vicious cheap shot at AW on the field during a play. Gronk took a vicious cheap shot on White out of bounds well after the play while he was lying face down and he purposely used a metal brace to smash the back of his head. Both of them should have experienced retaliation. Amazing to me the Bills have played Miami since then and no one blasted him.

Edited December 5, 2017 by Turk71

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Your wife said to say hello.  

[BobbyC81]

13 hours ago, rant_and_go_returns said:

Done with the NFL. Corrupt way for rich people to steal from America. Harlem Globetrotters have more competitive games.

The only time I will have anything to do with the NFL is if anyone associated with it needs a kidney and I'm a match. I will go through the entire process until I'm about to be knocked out with anasthesia, get up, and walk out.

 

Yet, here you are on a message board related to an NFL team?

 

 

13 hours ago, Jerome007 said:

 

No comparison between what Gronk did and what Landry did. Landry deserved to be taken out.

 

As for Hughes IDK what he said, but he gets flagged for it, and easily in any case. Who doesn't remember his 15 yard penalty for playfully bashing his TEAMMATE. Refs are biased and that'.

s not good.

 

And what with the retarded rule that 2 penalties offset 1? 

 

I remember a time when if a penalty against one team was for 15 yards and the penalty on another was 5 yards, they applied the 15 yarder.  Now they just cancel each other out?  Doesn't make sense.

Edited December 5, 2017 by LittleJoeCartwright
Formatting

[Jerome007]

13 hours ago, LittleJoeCartwright said:

I remember a time when if a penalty against one team was for 15 yards and the penalty on another was 5 yards, they applied the 15 yarder.  Now they just cancel each other out?  Doesn't make sense.

How about letting the ref do some basic maths? 15-5 = 10 yards. Is it THAT hard?

 

The two penalties offset by one is so stupid.