I've seen enough to know I've seen too much

[Dadonkadonk]

McDermott is a fraud.  We have all seen this character and effort pitch before.  It didn't work with Levy as GM. It didn't with Jauron as HC.  McDermott spins a good yarn with all his process and learning opportunity non-sense.  The reality is his coaching and personnel decisions have destroyed this season.

Dennison and Castillo have destroyed the offense just as Rex did the defense.  Why change the blocking scheme of the #1 rushing attack two years in a row?  Glenn missed games last year and they could still run and put points on the board.  

I was fine with the Darby trade.  But why move Sammy and Dareus?  If Darby was a bad fit, they could have traded him for a pick or another player besides Mathews.  

I said before camp Preston Brown was terrible and he has proven to be that.  Why is he on the field?  They could have kept Z. Brown and let P. Brown go.  

And lets examine this idea of winning today and tomorrow?  Outside of Benjamin, no move has made them better today.  And as far as winning tomorrow, they now have less talent and more questions marks to address this off-season.  They have not addressed RT.  They have over-paid for a garbage FB and back-up RB.  Clay, Gaines and Mathews are FAs.  Lorenzo Alexander does not deserve starting minutes.  And lastly, Vlad Ducasse is not even a quality back-up.

The amount of bad decisions by McDermott and this staff are too much to forgive even giving him credit for Hyde and Poyer.

Perhaps the most unredeemable sin of all is he somehow evaluated a team that gave up 500 yards rushing in two games and decided to start a 5th round rookie QB on the road while still in the playoff hunt.  Absolutely inexcusable.  And now he has lost the locker-room.  The entire team knows they dumped salary and hurt the team's chances of making the playoffs when they traded Dareus for nothing.  Now they know he has decided to tank the season by starting Peterman.  

 

[aceman_16]

Another one of these?

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

5 hours ago, aceman_16 said:

Another one of these?

 

TBD is now like a housewives book club discussing 50 shades of gray while consuming 32 bottles of wine. Whole lot of emotion, very little logic.

 

 

 

Edited November 21, 2017 by joesixpack

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

13 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

TBD is now like a housewives book club discussing 50 shades of gray while consuming 32 bottles of wine. Whole lot of emotion, very little logic.

 

 

 

 

....LMAO!.....entertaining isn't it?................

[McNubbins]

We can't be constantly throwing coaches out every year.

[NewEra]

Geez.  This looks like a colassal waste of your time OP.  At least you have lots of time on your hands.  Maybe you should start training to be a HC.

[fansince88]

Best when we were 5-2 and fraud when we are 5-5. Sounds about right 

5 hours ago, aceman_16 said:

Another one of these?

I got part of the way through the first sentence. 

[Real McClappy]

[zow2]

The guy in Atlanta (Quinn) has purposely followed the Sean Payton model of having two speedy RBs who can line up anywhere..and obviously a QB who can make some throws.  What is the model here? Seems like the Bills are playing traditional football read and react with no plan whatsoever. I’d like to know what McDs vision is 

[Coach Tuesday]

2 minutes ago, zow2 said:

The guy in Atlanta (Quinn) has purposely followed the Sean Payton model of having two speedy RBs who can line up anywhere..and obviously a QB who can make some throws.  What is the model here? Seems like the Bills are playing traditional football read and react with no plan whatsoever. I’d like to know what McDs vision is 

 

This is a solid post.  Don’t let his youthful age fool you - McD’s vision is beyond old-fashioned; it’s downright outmoded.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Today's winner of 

 

I don't know how to use the Search Function!!! 

[Doc Brown]

3 minutes ago, zow2 said:

The guy in Atlanta (Quinn) has purposely followed the Sean Payton model of having two speedy RBs who can line up anywhere..and obviously a QB who can make some throws.  What is the model here? Seems like the Bills are playing traditional football read and react with no plan whatsoever. I’d like to know what McDs vision is 

Having Drew Brees and Matt Ryan helps.  It's all about the quarterback.  If trading Watkins gives us the ammunition to draft our next Jim Kelly then it was a good move and it will define whether McDermott/Beane succeed here.  As far as RB's go, you could have a dominant back take the bulk of the carries (see Todd Gurley and Le'veon Bell) or take a running backs by committee approach (Falcons, Pats, Saints).  

[Coach Tuesday]

Just now, Doc Brown said:

Having Drew Brees and Matt Ryan helps.  It's all about the quarterback.  If trading Watkins gives us the ammunition to draft our next Jim Kelly then it was a good move and it will define whether McDermott/Beane succeed here.  As far as RB's go, you could have a dominant back take the bulk of the carries (see Todd Gurley and Le'veon Bell) or take a running backs by committee approach (Falcons, Pats, Saints).  

 

Sorry but this is a weak take.

[Teddy KGB]

4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

This is a solid post.  Don’t let his youthful age fool you - McD’s vision is beyond old-fashioned; it’s downright outmoded.

 

Prob knew this after we signed all the fullbacks ??‍♂️

[JaCrispy]

7 hours ago, Dadonkadonk said:

McDermott is a fraud.  We have all seen this character and effort pitch before.  It didn't work with Levy as GM. It didn't with Jauron as HC.  McDermott spins a good yarn with all his process and learning opportunity non-sense.  The reality is his coaching and personnel decisions have destroyed this season.

Dennison and Castillo have destroyed the offense just as Rex did the defense.  Why change the blocking scheme of the #1 rushing attack two years in a row?  Glenn missed games last year and they could still run and put points on the board.  

I was fine with the Darby trade.  But why move Sammy and Dareus?  If Darby was a bad fit, they could have traded him for a pick or another player besides Mathews.  

I said before camp Preston Brown was terrible and he has proven to be that.  Why is he on the field?  They could have kept Z. Brown and let P. Brown go.  

And lets examine this idea of winning today and tomorrow?  Outside of Benjamin, no move has made them better today.  And as far as winning tomorrow, they now have less talent and more questions marks to address this off-season.  They have not addressed RT.  They have over-paid for a garbage FB and back-up RB.  Clay, Gaines and Mathews are FAs.  Lorenzo Alexander does not deserve starting minutes.  And lastly, Vlad Ducasse is not even a quality back-up.

The amount of bad decisions by McDermott and this staff are too much to forgive even giving him credit for Hyde and Poyer.

Perhaps the most unredeemable sin of all is he somehow evaluated a team that gave up 500 yards rushing in two games and decided to start a 5th round rookie QB on the road while still in the playoff hunt.  Absolutely inexcusable.  And now he has lost the locker-room.  The entire team knows they dumped salary and hurt the team's chances of making the playoffs when they traded Dareus for nothing.  Now they know he has decided to tank the season by starting Peterman.  

 

Would you like some cheese with that whine? 

[Chadwick Bay Chad]

Who do you recommend we hire?  You cannot fire a coach every year.  Sammy would be hurt by now and Dareus was horrible.  He inherited a mess.  GO back in history and look at coaches in their first year.  Tom Landry, Jimmy Johnson, Vince Lombardi, Bill Belicheck, Don Shula, Chuck Noll, Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden, Hank Stram, Tony Dungy, etc.  All had losing records, fan base wanted them fired.  What do they have in common - won super bowl and are or will be in Hall of Fame.

[JinxedBill1]

[SoTier]

1 hour ago, Billsmisery said:

Hind site is always 20/20 fella. 

 

Just because you swallowed the McDermott-Beane sales pitch whole doesn't mean that all Bills did.  There were a significant number of fans who were skeptical about the manure being spread back in August, especially after the Watkins trade.   I don't know if the OP was among them, but those of us who were got shouted down by all the true believers who jumped on the McDermott/Beane bandwagon.  

 

For myself, I compared McDermott to Dick Jauron, although I thought he might be somewhat better because I thought he at least wasn't a play to not lose by too much coach.  I was wrong.  He's worse because he apparently doesn't care how much his team loses by as long as he loses his way. 

[Fadingpain]

Does this mean the earlier TSW threads from a few weeks ago suggesting McD be named "Coach of the Year" are now officially off the table?

 

[plenzmd1]

8 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

Just because you swallowed the McDermott-Beane sales pitch whole doesn't mean that all Bills did.  There were a significant number of fans who were skeptical about the manure being spread back in August, especially after the Watkins trade.   I don't know if the OP was among them, but those of us who were got shouted down by all the true believers who jumped on the McDermott/Beane bandwagon.  

 

For myself, I compared McDermott to Dick Jauron, although I thought he might be somewhat better because I thought he at least wasn't a play to not lose by too much coach.  I was wrong.  He's worse because he apparently doesn't care how much his team loses by as long as he loses his way. 

we should pin this post and see where are in 2019. Yes, that is the approach we have taken as opposed to the last 17 years of cobble together some talent and lets see where we end up.

 

The only thing McBeane did wrong is win some fluky games this year, and not play the Pats until late in the season. Had the Bills started out 3-6 with a thorough trouncing by the Pats in the books, none of this false optimism would have gotten him in the place where people now want to fire him.  We would all be about next year, screaming to give the kid QB more reps, etc.

 

I think the only mistake the tandem has made is getting sucked in by the fluky wins just as the fans did, and trading for Benjamin and if they let that affect their decision on the starting QB the rest of the year.