Fadingpain Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 His stats the last few years have undoubtedly been artificially aided by playing on one of the very few teams in the league that still believes in the run. It's a passing league now, but the Bills didn't get that memo. He's unarguably a great rushing talent, however, and I always liked him when he was just a random guy playing on a team I don't like in Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 MCCOY STILL PRODUCING LeSean McCoy has pushed through some early season run game struggles to put up his typically solid production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I hope he gets it. Shady has been a complete professional here after being traded away by a team and city he loved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 50 minutes ago, Klaista2k said: I kinda think he's overrated. I don't know why just do. I don’t understand whatever language you speak of. He is clearly an elite back. I think he’s better than Thurman ever was to be honest. Would’ve loved to see what he could’ve done in that offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Its a shame that our team is so one dimensional.........if Shady could have some kind of supporting cast around him, this team would be fairly good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 His stats are great but I can only wager that he's sick watching the Iggles dominate. Different team than when he left ... but still. Love me some Shady. Hope we can make a playoff push (hahahahaahaaahahah). Sigh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 On 11/22/2017 at 3:53 PM, NewEra said: I don’t understand whatever language you speak of. He is clearly an elite back. I think he’s better than Thurman ever was to be honest. Would’ve loved to see what he could’ve done in that offense Thurman was way better IMO. Shady is overrated. It's not like he can go up the middle and grind it out for extra yards. And how often does he ever break a tackle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 9 hours ago, Klaista2k said: Thurman was way better IMO. Shady is overrated. It's not like he can go up the middle and grind it out for extra yards. And how often does he ever break a tackle? Mccoy runs up the middle very well from my experience watching him, just not with a stacked line in a goaline set with Not much threat of a pass and an inferior OL. Shady in the open field is on another level. Thurman’s pass catching ability set him apart from his peers. Shadys receiving ability is right there with him. Career yards per attempt shady, 4.7, Thurman 4.2 (and his ypc didn’t drop in his final 5 seasons, so thats not why his ypc is lower). Its personal preference for sure, shady just wins the eye test for me. I’ve only seen one other feature back that can make you miss like shady does and many regard him as the best back ever (not me ftr), Barry. I’d like to see what shady can do with an OL like the Bills had along with a HoF QB and WRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 On 11/22/2017 at 3:19 PM, Buffalo716 said: Tony Dorsett never led the league in rushing neither did Jerome Bettis or Marshall Faulk Shady leading the league once is Perfectly acceptable because he also catches so many passes This. He’ll be in the HOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Back when the Bills made trades to get elite talent and not give it away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 On 11/22/2017 at 3:55 PM, Sweats said: Its a shame that our team is so one dimensional.........if Shady could have some kind of supporting cast around him, this team would be fairly good. ....BINGO!!........Asinine 101 proclamation that we're a "run first" team with ONE stallion in the stable........that ONE stallion goes down and you're riding "Mr Ed" to 6-10............ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 13 hours ago, Klaista2k said: It's not like he can go up the middle and grind it out for extra yards. And how often does he ever break a tackle? Not often, because he makes most people miss before they can even get a hand on him. Saying he doesn't break enough tackles isn't the best way to make the point that Shady is overrated. He's not overrated, and he doesn't break a lot of tackles because he doesn't take a lot of shots. All that said, Thurman is still the better Bill. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Likes The Bills Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Bills back since 2000 imo 1. Shady 2.Freddie 3. Travis Henry 4. Willis Mcgahee 5. Cj Spiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, NewEra said: Mccoy runs up the middle very well from my experience watching him, just not with a stacked line in a goaline set with Not much threat of a pass and an inferior OL. Shady in the open field is on another level. Thurman’s pass catching ability set him apart from his peers. Shadys receiving ability is right there with him. Career yards per attempt shady, 4.7, Thurman 4.2 (and his ypc didn’t drop in his final 5 seasons, so thats not why his ypc is lower). Its personal preference for sure, shady just wins the eye test for me. I’ve only seen one other feature back that can make you miss like shady does and many regard him as the best back ever (not me ftr), Barry. I’d like to see what shady can do with an OL like the Bills had along with a HoF QB and WRs. His lack of ability to break tackles is the main reason I can't rate him that highly. He's certainly a talented back but also has his limitations. Edited November 24, 2017 by Klaista2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Not often, because he makes most people miss before they can even get a hand on him. Saying he doesn't break enough tackles isn't the best way to make the point that Shady is overrated. He's not overrated, and he doesn't break a lot of tackles because he doesn't take a lot of shots. All that said, Thurman is still the better Bill. I agree that Thurman was a better Bill. But slightly. If Shady was on that K Gun team he would have put up insane numbers and had a boatload of long TD runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Didn't someone run on us for 200 twice last year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 56 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I agree that Thurman was a better Bill. But slightly. If Shady was on that K Gun team he would have put up insane numbers and had a boatload of long TD runs. I'm with you with this. Talent wise, they're close. I was basing my assessment on what they've done in a Bills' uniform. Defenses, especially, are faster today than they were in the 90s. Had Shady played in that era, with that system, he would have been nearly unstoppable with his elusiveness and speed. He would have clowned defenses back then if he got into any bit of space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I'm with you with this. Talent wise, they're close. I was basing my assessment on what they've done in a Bills' uniform. Defenses, especially, are faster today than they were in the 90s. Had Shady played in that era, with that system, he would have been nearly unstoppable with his elusiveness and speed. He would have clowned defenses back then if he got into any bit of space. If we’re being honest, you can’t ignore the major difference in quarterbacks, and even offensive lines, between the two while with the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I'm with you with this. Talent wise, they're close. I was basing my assessment on what they've done in a Bills' uniform. Defenses, especially, are faster today than they were in the 90s. Had Shady played in that era, with that system, he would have been nearly unstoppable with his elusiveness and speed. He would have clowned defenses back then if he got into any bit of space. Maybe. Or Jack Lambert would have cleaved his head clean off with a clothesline tackle. Times have changed. I miss dirty unis and mud. Turf in the face shield and bit of blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 15 minutes ago, Doc said: If we’re being honest, you can’t ignore the major difference in quarterbacks, and even offensive lines, between the two while with the Bills. Certainly true. I think McCoy is one of the top backs in the game today. Thurman was absolutely one of the top backs in the game while he played. But I watched Thurman play when I was a kid, tough to replace those memories or cede his place in my mind to McCoy even though I love watching Shady run. It's completely subjective 15 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Maybe. Or Jack Lambert would have cleaved his head clean off with a clothesline tackle. Times have changed. I miss dirty unis and mud. Turf in the face shield and bit of blood. Also potentially true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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