Noogie75 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 After the stinker in Buffalo, McCown has played better than Tyrod. because he can actually pass the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Yea the line's awfulness has been run game mainly. Which is a surprise to me because it is a total 180 from previous years. They are being asked to do different things, and the entire offensive design is different as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 No. That ball needs to be delivered now. He has 2-3 yards on the linebacker but instead holds it. And holds it and holds it ............HAVING a viable passing game will help the run game. You dont need to be a rocket 🚀 scientist to understand basic football fundamentals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 After the stinker in Buffalo, McCown has played better than Tyrod. McCown has played against the Raiders, Dolphins, and Browns in three of the four games since facing the Bills. Much easier schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 McCown has played against the Raiders, Dolphins, and Browns in three of the four games since facing the Bills. Much easier schedule. Any given Sunday, I guess we will see how Tyrod does against the same opponents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offsides#76FredSmerlas Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 You may be right but Alex Smith didn't start playing well until his 7th year in the league (6th as a starter) and he was 27. He is probably having his best year now while being 33. Rich Gannon came on late too but most never get better before they are shown the NFL door. This is a win now position. I'm not asking for Tyrod to be pulled but I do have the "What iff" going through my head about Peterman. I still think at 3-2 were best sticking with Tyrod but if we have a few more of these clunkers then I would see if the Rook could spark us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 They are being asked to do different things, and the entire offensive design is different as well. Of course I get that. But to have such an about turn even in those circumstances is surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 because he can actually pass the ball. Taylor can pass. He just won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Good to know you've watched enough Josh McCown this season to truly compare the two. Oh wait, you just looked at useless numbers. Actually I have, as I usually have the Bills & Jets games on at the same time. But carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 That play is 100% on Logan Thomas not knowing how to be a TE. What a horrible break down from a 12 year old. Agree. TT is even motioning to LT to turn it towards the end zone and instead he runs close to out of bounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Taylor can pass. He just won't. True. He has zero attempts through five games. Disturbing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Hopkins Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) Actually I have, as I usually have the Bills & Jets games on at the same time. But carry on. Then please tell me, what has Josh McCown done better this year than Tyrod? Edited October 11, 2017 by Julio Hopkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Actually I have, as I usually have the Bills & Jets games on at the same time. But carry on. McCown has played about as I expected, to be honest - he's an old vet who understands the game, and he's been blessed with crappy competition the last few weeks. He's a guy who will have runs - i.e., his lights-out performance for the Bears in 2013. He quickly came back to earth, however -- as he always does. He's not a great QB for a team that's behind, and I expect his numbers will be bad this week against the Pats regardless of the limitations of the Pats' secondary (I expect NE to utterly blow them out). One thing I've noticed about the Jets - Kearse is a pretty good player. Ryan Matthews is essentially a poor man's Kearse (not that Matthews is a bad player or anything like that). Where is the weekly ALL22 breakdown of Shady rushing for negative yards every other play? I want screenshots of the holes shady misses. I want them blown up and pasted here. Our highly-paid RB is avg 3 ypc on the season and our rushing attack is non-existent. I want a breakdown of that problem. Tyrod's numbers at the end of the day are what theyve always been. He had a below average game even for his standards. We are all aware of Tyrod's limitations and strengths. None of his strengths came out vs the Bengals partly by design and partly by his own play. Now, back to Shady and his 3ypc... Shady has 0 rushing TD this season. I want an all22 breakdown of why Shady cant score when we're in the red zone. And please spare me "they load up the box". There is terrible blocking, opponents know what's coming, and they don't fear the Bills receivers - it's pretty simple. McCoy looks as elite in terms of speed/cutting ability as he's always looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Rich Gannon came on late too but most never get better before they are shown the NFL door. This is a win now position. I'm not asking for Tyrod to be pulled but I do have the "What iff" going through my head about Peterman. I still think at 3-2 were best sticking with Tyrod but if we have a few more of these clunkers then I would see if the Rook could spark us. I have the what if thoughts too but I defer to the coaches. I believe if they thought Peterman would do better they would put him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Where is the weekly ALL22 breakdown of Shady rushing for negative yards every other play? McCoy had four negative yardage runs against the Bengals--one in the first half and three in the second. I took you off ignore to point this out, and now back on you go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 Taylor can pass. He just won't. The weird thing about Tyrod is that I think he throws better on the run. He's more accurate when he is running and stops, plants and releases or just wings it off the run. When he has to throw from the pocket, his footwork seems off balance and he doesn't have the mechanics to make clean accurate throws. I think it's may be a mental thing where he thinks too much and doesn't trust the play. When he is on the run, it's all instinct and he doesn't have time to process his throw. When he wings it, he can make some beautiful passes, like the long shot to Clay. He may be a bit too short to work out of the pocket. But I don't recommend that we find the lollipop kids to be his o-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Then please tell me, what has Josh McCown done better this year than Tyrod? 2 Tds in the 4th quarter vs 0 for Tyrod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 At the time he wants Tyrod to throw the pass, Logan Thomas is covered and it is a very difficult pass to make. Tyrod wants Thomas to run to the corner instead of dragging to the sideline. If Thomas runs towards the wide open corner, he gets the separation he needs, Tyrod makes the pass and the Bills score 6. So the commentator is complaining about Tyrod not making a risky pass that is likely to go either incomplete or get picked off. If Tyrod makes the pass when this guy wants him to, and it goes incomplete, then the narrative would be "Tyrod should have held the ball another second and waited for Thomas to come open". Exactly what I saw. What are you talking about? That's an easy one. Tyrod needs to release quicker and "throw his receiver open" by leading him up field. He waited too long and actually it became a dangerous pass by the time he lobbed it downfield. I have no idea how you could think Logan Thomas is covered at the start of the rollout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Mannn...Taylor is so tentative. Its just too safe if you wanna win. Multiple plays on here where hes leaving points on the field. Coming from a big fan of his... I see this differently. It seems obvious that TT is wanting Thomas to push the route upfield into that vacated area because it would be an easy TD. Instead, Thomas keeps running the route flat to the sidelines. It's clear that's what Tyrod was waiting for. I think it shows Thomas inexperience more than anything. The dbs vacated that part of the field should have been a sight adjustment on the part of the TE I see this differently. It seems obvious that TT is wanting Thomas to push the route upfield into that vacated area because it would be an easy TD. Instead, Thomas keeps running the route flat to the sidelines. It's clear that's what Tyrod was waiting for. I think it shows Thomas inexperience more than anything. The dbs vacated that part of the field should have been a sight adjustment on the part of the TE What Im seeing is Zay Jones had the dbs hips turning... If he cuts right in FRONT of the db, hes wide open for a td. Too rigid. Instead he runs around the db, negating his advantage. Bad bad route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Beuerlein agreed with Cover 1. He said that Tyrod needed to throw sooner, but then faulted Thomas for continuing to run sideways Thomas was open. No ball comes out. At the very least it wouldve been an easy 1st down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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