papazoid Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 9-7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 6 to 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 10-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Not a clue. Â Expect 0-16, hope for 16-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 And what evidence do you have they want profit over wins?  Because that is an easy argument to lose and make a fool of yourself  Oh, I don't know ... because none of the CBs they have now are making anywhere near as much as Stephon Gilmore gets. because Sammy Watkins would cost the Bills millions more than Jordan Matthews. because the trades were done after season tix sales were completed, and when most of the individual game tix have been sold, too. Finally, trading Watkins doesn't make any kind of football sense at all. A team looking to actually rebuild jettisons its expensive older players not its few young talents. Trading Watkins doesn't make the team bad enough to have a 2-3 win season which would likely guarantee the Bills a shot at a top collegiate QB if there's one to be had in 2018. Therefore, instead of using all those high picks to add talent to the team, they go to make some other team richer in talent in order to secure a shot at a QB. The Watkins trade does deprive Taylor of his most reliable -- and dangerous -- target this year and make his being a successful passer in 2017 more difficult, so there's going to be fewer complaints when he's cut in the off season before he's due any bonuses or salary, especially when fans are dazzled by the prospect of that shiny new model QB to be plucked from the 2018 draft. If the Bills manage to finagle their way into a top five pick and take a QB, the team will probably sell more season tickets than they did in 2009 when they signed Terrell Owens as the "savior".  Oh, and one more thing: Russ Brandon is still running the show, just as he has since at least 2006. If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck, it's likely a duck. You can "Billieve" it's an eagle if you want but after 17 years of putting up with the BS shelled out by OBD, I ain't buying the duck poop they're peddling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Â Oh, I don't know ... because none of the CBs they have now are making anywhere near as much as Stephon Gilmore gets. because Sammy Watkins would cost the Bills millions more than Jordan Matthews. because the trades were done after season tix sales were completed, and when most of the individual game tix have been sold, too. Finally, trading Watkins doesn't make any kind of football sense at all. A team looking to actually rebuild jettisons its expensive older players not its few young talents. Trading Watkins doesn't make the team bad enough to have a 2-3 win season which would likely guarantee the Bills a shot at a top collegiate QB if there's one to be had in 2018. Therefore, instead of using all those high picks to add talent to the team, they go to make some other team richer in talent in order to secure a shot at a QB. The Watkins trade does deprive Taylor of his most reliable -- and dangerous -- target this year and make his being a successful passer in 2017 more difficult, so there's going to be fewer complaints when he's cut in the off season before he's due any bonuses or salary, especially when fans are dazzled by the prospect of that shiny new model QB to be plucked from the 2018 draft. If the Bills manage to finagle their way into a top five pick and take a QB, the team will probably sell more season tickets than they did in 2009 when they signed Terrell Owens as the "savior". Â Oh, and one more thing: Russ Brandon is still running the show, just as he has since at least 2006. If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck, it's likely a duck. You can "Billieve" it's an eagle if you want but after 17 years of putting up with the BS shelled out by OBD, I ain't buying the duck poop they're peddling. Â what makes more money? a winning team or losing team? playoff home game? a superbowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 4 or 5 i'll say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Vegas had us at 6 wins with Sammy and Darby. I am thinking those trades adjust the line down at least one. Â So yea about 4 or 5 wins seems about right. Â Not to mention anyone see the craptastic pass protection Thursday. Taylor is gonna get killed MAJ, Darby was awful last year. Even Rex benched him at one point though he may have been ill. Watkins barely played. 28 receptions in 2016. They can find 28 receptions with the new WRs. Looking at the schedule is pointless. So many things will happen. Look no further than last year - no one predicted the Bills would beat the Cardinals prior to the season (of course I called them beating the Cards after the Jets loss) Â I see a much improved defense. I see potential catastrophe at the OT spots. I have been on record that CK should have been the starting LT and it was stupid to cut him. If Glenn can play then they will have 10 wins - five in the Division alone. If Glenn goes to IR and TT gets hurt in the first half of the season, then I see fours wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Â what makes more money? a winning team or losing team? playoff home game? a superbowl? Â First off, the bulk of team revenues these days come from the televison deals. The teams that are able to sell luxury boxes and seat licenses rake in really big $$$ from those sales, but that's not the Bills. Their ticket sales add modestly to their revenue. If the season tix are already sold, and most individual game tix are sold, the team already has the vast bulk of its attendance money for 2017, so trading Watkins after the first preseason game had little risk. Not re-signing Gilmore probably weakened the secondary enough so that it was unlikely the team could win 10 games and have a legitimate shot at the playoffs. Making the playoffs would have likely added to 2018 attendance but probably not all that much unless the team had a playoff win or two, too. That scenario was unlikely even with Gilmore and Watkins, so their high salaries made them expendable. Â Winning only 6 games rather than 8 isn't going to significantly impact 2018 season tix sales. Winning only 2 games in 2017 would likely create a drop in ticket sales, especially if the team sent established stars like Kyle Williams and Sean McCoy packing. Even drafting a first round QB might not have helped raise the numbers. The organization can't market a 2 or 3 win team as just a QB away from the playoffs. It can market a 6 win team as being a playoff contender with a shiny new high first round QB as the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) 19. The McBean regime says they're trying to win this season and I'm sold. Edited August 16, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNMBillsFan Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 9-6, maybe 10-6 if they can actually make 40- 49 yd field goals this year. 4-9 just doesn't cut it in the NFL, last year carpenter cost them 2 that I remember, and that was with the clown as the coach and IMO a worse receiving group. Time will tell Go Bills!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Probably 7ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valle7878 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 3 WINS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 10-6 sneak into playoffs in week 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 was going to go 4-12, but i see one more win with injury riddled 'fins  5-11 19. The McBean regime says they're trying to win this season and I'm sold. WOW all in amirite??? we just cannot lose to the jets. just saying Seriously I'm betting those two games will be dogfights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 6 if they keep TT. 4 if Peterman starts. I see a split with them actually DUDE??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 6 wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1960 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Stick with original pick of 10-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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