Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 So you are saying Beane couldn't have shopped Sammy because there would be no takers? Come on! Maybe he was! Do you know for certain he wasn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Holy... folks there is something called a franchise tag. Stop with the sammy would have walked at the end of the year. If Sammy played well, we could have tagged him and worked towards a long term deal. If at that point it still doesn't appear to be working, at least his value will be higher and you could have gotten more. That's what bothers me about the Watkins trade. They maybe made the move too soon. Or if his Foot blows up (you know our Drs know more about that that anyone) They made it early didnt they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 That's how I heard it too. He sounded really down just base off of tone. In addition, things like: Q: "Were on initially onboard or did you have to be convinced about this trade?" A: "Well, I'm always going to listen when presented with options..." That being said, it shows a bit of weakness in his leadership. How is he supposed to make the team feel good about the moves if he talks like his high school sweetheart just slept with his best friend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 9-7 with EJ and Orton and the #4 defense. Whaley didn't get to hire Rex and everything feel apart. Under his tenure, Whaley had a top 10 offense and defense and never got to pick a head coach. We now have a coach who picked his GM. Never thought of that. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 So you are saying Beane couldn't have shopped Sammy because there would be no takers? Come on! This is a great point. If you going to trade Sammy, why not create a bidding war? Every team in the NFL would be interested. You could have beat this deal. I will say props to McBeane. This is the fastest my enthusiasm has been killed for a Bills season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flmike Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I was shocked by this at first, but now coming around on it. You get a 2nd round pick for someone who was going to leave anyway and you get a 3rd in exchange for a decent CB. I think they did very well, but the vets on the team will not be happy. Probably best to move the rest and enjoy watching the kids lose a lot of games this season. The brilliance of this is that by the time our new team is ready, Brady will be retired. The FO probably saw a couple more years of pointless fighting the Pats w/o enough talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 That being said, it shows a bit of weakness in his leadership. How is he supposed to make the team feel good about the moves if he talks like his high school sweetheart just slept with his best friend? lol well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Maybe he was! Do you know for certain he wasn't? He said in the presser he wasn't. But I will concede that he could have been less than forthcoming about the reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Let's say you're a farmer. You have a cow you know is sick and probably never going to produce milk like she used to. You can't afford to replace her, but you realize she's got maybe one year of udder function left before you have to put her down. Then, to your surprise, your neighbor brings you a steer you can slaughter, a bag of money, and takes your cow off your hands. it wasn't what you expected, but now you're in shape to buy two more cows. and, since growing your herd is your goal wouldn't you take that deal? Da fuq?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Or if his Foot blows up (you know our Drs know more about that that anyone) They made it early didnt they? Nice try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) You're loving this. I'm sure your glee is severely misplaced. Trading away a season in the hopes of maybe getting a qb next year if we're the worst of the worst, which we won't be. So what do we get with our 8th and 16th overall? A trade down to 2 for a WR or a LT or a LB? Still a huge question mark at qb. Or do we take another chance on another project qb only to realize that he's not a fit, so everyone can look back on this trade in two years and say it was a mistake? What a reason to rejoice. IM not exactly convinced they are trading away a season...They traded Sammy who hasnt been able to stay healthy what so ever, while being a great player The decent WR they added may be more beneficial then Watkins just for the fact he is more likely to play. Darby and Gaines are about a wash, they both had good rookie seasons followed by nothingness. Also everyone and there brother knows this isnt a superbowl team, there is very little chance we are able to keep watkins after this year without paying him big$$$ so maybe netting a second round pick while they can was the right move. Or maybe it is just more of rinse wash and repeat at one bills drive Edited August 11, 2017 by BILLriant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevWarRifleman Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Well with 2 picks in the first round, and the same in the 2nd, we ought to have our franchise qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Nice try What do you mean. This was good value for a WR that hasnt lived up to his billing and cant stay healthy. And yes i like Watkins alot. However the medical team knows more about that foot than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I was shocked by this at first, but now coming around on it. You get a 2nd round pick for someone who was going to leave anyway and you get a 3rd in exchange for a decent CB. I think they did very well, but the vets on the team will not be happy. Probably best to move the rest and enjoy watching the kids lose a lot of games this season. The brilliance of this is that by the time our new team is ready, Brady will be retired. The FO probably saw a couple more years of pointless fighting the Pats w/o enough talent. Right, I said that earlier. They may just be waiting out Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 You're dumb. Their vision is building through the draft by getting as many picks as possible, potentially to move up in what looks like one of the best QB drafts ever. How can't you see this? So I guess we are cutting 4 to get 2 comp picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 It is highly likely the Bills will add a third round comp pick, too, giving them seven picks in the top 100 of what is shaping up to be a pretty good draft. My hope is that they keep all those picks and do not squander them in a trade up. Which is why it makes sense to continue to trade, get picks and lose games while getting the young talent experience This is a great point. If you going to trade Sammy, why not create a bidding war? Every team in the NFL would be interested. You could have beat this deal. I will say props to McBeane. This is the fastest my enthusiasm has been killed for a Bills season! Hiring Jerkron as HC didn't work for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Which is why it makes sense to continue to trade, get picks and lose games while getting the young talent experience This... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) What do you mean. This was good value for a WR that hasnt lived up to his billing and cant stay healthy. And yes i like Watkins alot. However the medical team knows more about that foot than anyone else. If I had a dollar for every time I heard " There is a reason they coach in the NFL" or something akin.They see this kid year in and out. They know what a dependable player looks like. They also know what the talk in the locker room is. Edited August 11, 2017 by Buffalo Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Right, I said that earlier. They may just be waiting out Brady. That's a good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 We're going to be planning many more trips to Letchworth on Sundays in the fall than before. I will say props to McBeane. This is the fastest my enthusiasm has been killed for a Bills season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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