Cash Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Trust is earned. If this works out, they'll be here for 10+ years. If it doesn't, we'll be looking for a new coach in 16 months. Precisely. What reason have they given me to trust them? So no, I don't trust them. I also don't actively distrust them - yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 This is a Patriots type move. The Patriots in consecutive seasons traded Chandler Jones and Jamie Collins in contract years. The Patriots model is not sustainable for anyone that isn't Bill Belichick. You're better off trying to emulate the Seahawks, Packers or Steelers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 No. I hated the idea of hiring a coach before the GM. The Pegulas, who I totally am in debt for what they have done in Buffalo, have no idea how to run a NFL franchise. Yup. It may pan out now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Not necessarily totally against trading Sammy, though I loved the guy. Just don't feel like we got that much back in return. Draft picks? Yay!?. Remember Tyrod spending some of the off-season working out with Sammy? He must feel betrayed by this. Our starting wide receivers haven't played in a game with him yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 I do now. I'll trust them even more if they whack TT. You and I are in complete agreement A second round pick and an iffy CB for Sammy fukkin Watkins?!!!! I think maybe Bellichick made this trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 The Patriots model is not sustainable for anyone that isn't Bill Belichick. You're better off trying to emulate the Seahawks, Packers or Steelers. I think it's more accurate to say that the Patriots model is not sustainable for any team that doesn't have Tom Brady at QB. Belichick was a sub-.500 coach before him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 I think McD agrees that Sammy is soft. He's not too blame for drafting him with two first and has no loyalty to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 No. I hated the idea of hiring a coach before the GM. The Pegulas, who I totally am in debt for what they have done in Buffalo, have no idea how to run a NFL franchise. And of course you do. Exactly what have they done to lose your trust? Take two years to evaluate their coach and GM and decide they weren't competent? Replacing them with two guys who actually have an idea of what they are doing? Please enlighten me since you seem to know way more about how to run an NFL franchise than they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I say that I admire their conviction. They must have a plan and know we are not winning Jack or shyt in the next couple of years so trade the guys that have the value now for picks to build a team through the draft the way they want. Live or die by their plan and what they want . I can respect that. Be a man and make a statement but you own that statement. I'm down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 yep. they got their franchise QB This yep. they got their franchise QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGBillsFan Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Got to let them make their moves, bring in the players they want and see if it works out. How can you evaluate them if they kept all players hired under the previous regime. Implement the new system, bring in players to fit and see how it works out. I'll give them a little more time than 1 pre-season game before I kick them to the curb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Do we have any choice? I'm just stunned right now. Just waiting for some text saying we traded Tyrod Taylor for a 2020 2nd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I think it's more accurate to say that the Patriots model is not sustainable for any team that doesn't have Tom Brady at QB. Belichick was a sub-.500 coach before him. Elite QB & elite coach is a tough combination to beat. I don't think anyone can really push the whole "one would be garbage without the other" narrative anymore. Take Brady out of the equation temporarily, they still have only one guy being coach & GM, are notoriously ruthless, have ridiculous year to year scheme changes and can convince players to give them hometown discounts frequently. The "buy in" there is insane. I just don't think you can chase their model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 WGR mentioned something about Boldin and Watkins in a somewhat animated discussion on the sidelines last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 No. I hated the idea of hiring a coach before the GM. The Pegulas, who I totally am in debt for what they have done in Buffalo, have no idea how to run a NFL franchise. I'm thinking they were likely hired at the same time, just took awhile to make it "official". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Yes I trust them CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I'm thinking they were likely hired at the same time, just took awhile to make it "official". Which is why we had "inside" knowledge of the Panthers draft board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 WGR mentioned something about Boldin and Watkins in a somewhat animated discussion on the sidelines last night. The only thing that makes sense to me at this point is the Bills knew they had no chance at resigning Watkins, didn't want to use the franchise tag, and wanted to get something for him while we still could. Still though. The guy is elite when healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) Beane press conference 4 PM est, not sure why my thread was deleted. Edited August 11, 2017 by Jamie Muellers Ghost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 The only thing that makes sense to me at this point is the Bills knew they had no chance at resigning Watkins, didn't want to use the franchise tag, and wanted to get something for him while we still could. Still though. The guy is elite when healthy which is rare. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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