BADOLBILZ Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 ....so then the Whaley firing was more about style versus substance in your assessment?...... Yeah, clearly McDermott has had the final say on the roster since soon after he was hired. Any thought to the contrary was pretty much cleared up when they fired Whaley and all the scouts just hours after the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 (edited) Or if you prefer a negative slant...third worst. https://twitter.com/PFF/status/861177814799855617 Certainly he's better than Fitz was, and worse than Brady. You look at the stats and it looks like Tannehill is passing better than Tyrod, a much higher completion percentage and a considerably longer YPA (8th vs.26th), significantly more INTs but more late-game success than Tyrod (3 fourth quarter comebacks and 3 game-winning drives vs. Tyrod's one and one). But certainly Tyrod runs better. So overall, well, it's not out of the question. I'd take Tannehill, myself. But to each their own, I guess. Neither guy's that great, but I'd take Tannehill's future. McCown's record is 18-42 No, that's the record of the teams he played for in games he started. The name of that stat is actually "Team Record in Games Started By This QB (Regular Season)". Grading a QB based on how well the defense plays or whether the kicker makes or misses field goals is utterly ridiculous. And if you go back and check the records of the teams he recorded wins or losses for, you find that without McCown they performed slightly worse. He's been on awful teams. But I'd take Tyrod over McCown, though both are bridge guys, IMHO, I think Tyrod's significantly better. Edited May 7, 2017 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Certainly he's better than Fitz was, and worse than Brady. You look at the stats and it looks like Tannehill is passing better than Tyrod, a much higher completion percentage and a considerably longer YPA (8th vs.26th), significantly more INTs but more late-game success than Tyrod (3 fourth quarter comebacks and 3 game-winning drives vs. Tyrod's one and one). But certainly Tyrod runs better. So overall, well, it's not out of the question. I'd take Tannehill, myself. But to each their own, I guess. Neither guy's that great, but I'd take Tannehill's future. Why would you take Tannehill's future? He's started almost three times as many games as Tyrod has, he's a year older than Tyrod, and his numbers really aren't any better than Tyrod's. What makes you think he will improve but Tyrod won't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Tannehill is better and to be honest McCown may be too.Tyrod has 2 more TDs and 1/2 as many INTs in the same number of starts as Tannehill over the last 2 years. Carry on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud420 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Tyrod has 2 more TDs and 1/2 as many INTs in the same number of starts as Tannehill over the last 2 years. Carry on... Tannehill lead a team to a playoffs. Taylor hasn't. Carry on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Tyrod has 2 more TDs and 1/2 as many INTs in the same number of starts as Tannehill over the last 2 years. Carry on... ....and the Fins were 10-6 versus Bflo at 7-9.......so what is the actual value of stats?.......did you think Dilfer's stats in 2000 equated to a Ravens' SB win?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Tannehill lead a team to a playoffs. Taylor hasn't. Carry on...No he didn't, Matt Moore did. Tyrod has a better record than Tannehill over the last 2 years. ....and the Fins were 10-6 versus Bflo at 7-9.......so what is the actual value of stats?.......did you think Dilfer's stats in 2000 equated to a Ravens' SB win?.....see above ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Tannehill lead a team to a playoffs. Taylor hasn't. Carry on... you are such a friggen simpleton....yeah he didnt have any help with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 PFF has Tannehill ranked 18th and Taylor 20th. So... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 you are such a friggen simpleton Those in glass houses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 He's better than two teams who trot out less than competent starters... not overly impressive. Full disclosure, I want to see Taylor succeed. If TT succeeds, then the Bills will succeed. I just don't envision the guy evolving more than what we have already seen out of him. To me Taylor is maxed out, maybe Dennison gets more out of Taylor. If everyone remains healthy, there are playmakers and no excuses. Moral of the story, I am not holding off looking into QBS next year because he's second best in the AFCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 He's better than two teams who trot out less than competent starters... not overly impressive. Full disclosure, I want to see Taylor succeed. If TT succeeds, then the Bills will succeed. I just don't envision the guy evolving more than what we have already seen out of him. To me Taylor is maxed out, maybe Dennison gets more out of Taylor. If everyone remains healthy, there are playmakers and no excuses. Moral of the story, I am not holding off looking into QBS next year because he's second best in the AFCE not sure anyone is saying that if tt does not take a leap forward i think were taking our 2 first rounders and getting a signal caller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 not sure anyone is saying that if tt does not take a leap forward i think were taking our 2 first rounders and getting a signal callerMaybe not, but there are plenty of people who think what he's done is plenty good already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share Posted May 7, 2017 Tannehill lead a team to a playoffs. Taylor hasn't. Carry on... What did McCown do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Maybe not, but there are plenty of people who think what he's done is plenty good already. regressed last year played better the year pryor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 He's a decent starting QB. We complained less when we had trash QBs. No one is opposed to upgrading. The Bills should have a chance to land a QB in a great QB draft. TT is the best option now and in a year maybe he won't be. I don't know the need to constantly discuss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud420 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 (edited) No he didn't, Matt Moore did. Tyrod has a better record than Tannehill over the last 2 years. see above ^^ Tannehill started most of year, then he got injured Edited May 7, 2017 by BuffaloBud420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 What did McCown do? ....he is the quintessential d-bag.....I was living at a Cleveland Marriott while my late wife underwent medical treatments, same hotel Browns used for minis, rook tryouts, camp etc.......met a bunch of kids on tryouts, rooks, vets showing up early, etc.....a great bunch.....friendlier than hell and everything was respectful "yes sir no sir"...TOLD 'EM, "DROP THE SIR, i KNOW I'M OLD"......poolside beverages, shoot the breeze, etc....only a-hole was McGown...hotel staff hated him as he treated them like ****....attitude was "don't you know WHO I AM?"....sure do, a big ZERO.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Tannehill started most of year, then he got injuredTannehill is 14-15 and Tyrod is 15-14 over the last 2 years. They each started 29 games. Tannehill has 45 TDs and 24 INTs and Tyrod has 47 TDs and 12 INTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusher Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Tannehill is 14-15 and Tyrod is 15-14 over the last 2 years. They each started 29 games. Tannehill has 45 TDs and 24 INTs and Tyrod has 47 TDs and 12 INTs. Tannehill is a superior passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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