NoSaint Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 On 4/30/2017 at 4:03 PM, Mountain Man said: You do it now. Its the start of the scouting season. Getting rid of a GM in January is like getting rid of a coach in November, its mid season It's pretty standard issue.
Simon Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 On 4/30/2017 at 4:03 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: She seemed really unhappy with him after that disastrous presser that occurred after Rex was canned. Doug stood up there and took a lot of bullets for the Pegulas idiocy that day. And Terry told him on more than one occasion how much he appreciated that. But I guess that's what glad-handing backstabbers do.
KellyToughII Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Gil Brandt was just on sirius, loves McDermott, said Buffalo desperately needed a major culture change
OldTimer1960 Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 On 4/30/2017 at 4:05 PM, NoSaint said: You think mid week during the season your D.C. is sitting in scouting meetings... and ones for offensive players at that? He didn't say mid-week during the season.
Wayne Cubed Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) On 4/30/2017 at 4:03 PM, Mountain Man said: You do it now. Its the start of the scouting season. Getting rid of a GM in January is like getting rid of a coach in November, its mid season But there is more than just Whaley leading the scouting process. Just like there is more than just a Head Coach leading a team. You fire Whaley in January, let Monos take over and almost interview for the job then. Just like you do with an interim coach. Hire Monos or the new GM after the draft. Edited April 30, 2017 by Wayne Cubed
mob16151 Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Well first off,I was wrong.I thought there was no way Whaley gets fired. Secondly I feel like Whaley got a raw deal in Buffalo. It's hard to build a winner,when you go through 3 coached in 4 years. And switch between 4-3's and 3-4's. However time to move on,and hope the next GM,brings us a winner.
Fan in Chicago Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 On 4/30/2017 at 4:06 PM, cd1 said: For those of you celebrating - just because Whaley is gone, does not mean the organization is better. The powers that be could replace him with someone MUCH WORSE. **** I am curious which crackrjack GM candidate will be now ecstatic about this opening.
Bangarang Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 On 4/30/2017 at 4:08 PM, KellyToughII said: Gil Brandt was just on sirius, loves McDermott, said Buffalo desperately needed a major culture change We've had coaching staffs all talk to about instilling a new culture but this is the first time I feel it's actually happening.
NoSaint Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 On 4/30/2017 at 4:08 PM, OldTimer1960 said: He didn't say mid-week during the season. So when were these scouting meetings they had? We're going all the way to last offseason with them?
Iverwig Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 On 4/30/2017 at 4:07 PM, Simon said: Doug stood up there and took a lot of bullets for the Pegulas idiocy that day. And Terry told him on more than one occasion how much he appreciated that. But I guess that's what glad-handing backstabbers do. Bingo!!! The Pegulas were responsible for hiring Rex and used Whaley to fall on the sword.
Fan in Chicago Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 On 4/30/2017 at 4:07 PM, Wayne Arnold said: She wasn't the only one. Do you think that by itself should weigh in on a GM's performance evaluation ? Wsnt it addressed by handing McD the mic ?
BillsVet Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 So, the brand new HC has more sway with ownership than the incumbent GM who T/K Pegs elected to retain upon buying the team 2.5 years ago. Interesting. I always figured McD doesn't take this job without being granted a lot of authority over football beyond what recent HC's have had. And that authority he received overlapped the GM's, who is now history.
Bill_with_it Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) On 4/30/2017 at 4:09 PM, Bangarang said: We've had coaching staffs all talk to about instilling a new culture but this is the first time I feel it's actually happening.It feels really good. Like a complete fresh start. Its a breath of fresh air and icing on top of that draft cake. Edited April 30, 2017 by Bill_with_it
jeffismagic Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 On 4/30/2017 at 4:10 PM, Iverwig said: Bingo!!! The Pegulas were responsible for hiring Rex and used Whaley to fall on the sword. I don't know if this perfectly describes what happened but it could be close. Whaley's misses look a lot worse when you have a coach getting rid of productive players or putting them in positions where they can't succeed. And that coach forced on you by the owner. Pegulas get to blame Whaley for their mistakes.
Big Gun Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 On 4/30/2017 at 4:09 PM, Fan in Chicago said: I am curious which crackrjack GM candidate will be now ecstatic about this opening. Doubtful any experienced ones will be.
billieve420 Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Whaley was dead man walking for a long time anyway this had to happen. Rex had a lot of input in the draft last year and this year McDermott ran the show. The whole empowering Whaley to make a coaching hire was a farce and I don't believe he had a say in any of the last 3 coaching hires. Relationship was doomed from the beginning. McDemott is now the Defacto GM/HC and whoever he brings aboard will probably answer to him. As long as there is clear hierarchy we have to see how it plays out.
boyst Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 On 4/30/2017 at 3:59 PM, Fan in Chicago said: Not quite sure if your take is that significantly different from mine. But given that neither of us have concrete proof of what went on inside the organization, we just have to go by the sequence of events and the ultimate decisions themselves. Suffice to say that I am not going to argue this point with you too hard. not trying to argue. just converse on something that i have faith in knowing your history that you would likely provide a take i might not see on this - respect ya. on another note. ..wgr is doing a ton of spin on this
Iverwig Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 On 4/30/2017 at 4:09 PM, Bangarang said: We've had coaching staffs all talk to about instilling a new culture but this is the first time I feel it's actually happening. I'll believe when I see it so as of now I Billieve the Pegulas are inept after his press conference today.
#34fan Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 On 4/30/2017 at 3:45 PM, jr1 said: Welcome to my top 5 favorite posts ever...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 On 4/30/2017 at 4:10 PM, NoSaint said: So when were these scouting meetings they had? We're going all the way to last offseason with them? How about after the season?
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