dubs Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) "Whaley probably sucks and the Bills are historically terrible, but they turned a scrap heap mid-season free agent that again ZERO other teams wanted into a 5th round pick. It makes the Whaley haters look bad to seize on this when there are tons of other legitimate examples of dubious decision making". So a young talent that led the entire NFL in multiple metrics is exchanged for a late 5th round pick and that is somehow a win? No wonder this franchise has been losers so long. Sign two more fullbacks while you are still paying 1.3 million dead cap to your last one. Saying multiple metrics is the easiest way to show that you don't understand football. He had 100 carries and 1 reception. Nice stat line but a gimmick one too. SMIt's like saying that a pinch hitter with 100 AB who had the highest OPS would do the same thing getting starter ABs. Edited April 24, 2017 by dubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Why do Bills fans cry so much? BACKUP RB! A very good one on a team whose main strength is running the ball. It's a loss. Saying multiple metrics is the easiest way to show that you don't understand football. He had 100 carries and 1 reception. Nice stat line but a gimmick one too. SM It's like saying that a pinch hitter with 100 AB who had the highest OPS would do the same thing getting starter ABs. His TDs are no gimmick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I would have liked to see MG stay. I would have liked to see Higan stay. But losing them is not that big a deal. Backup RBs are relatively easy to find, as is a 3/4 string WR. The Bills are no different than any other team, they assign value to positions and players. Then they make decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Frankly.....if I felt the way people depict that I do about Shady........ So dishonest. You dug your own hole with Shady when you gifted us with your hot takes about: his upcoming radio career, him being out of the league before he turns 30, him being over the hill, him only playing hard on nationally televised games, and crediting Taylor as having more to do with the ground game's success than McCoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm0404 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 What are you talking about? The best team in the NFL thought he was worth it. Your whole premise is that MG is WAY more valuable than a 5th round pick, and we were foolish to trade him for one. That our GM is a complete idiot for letting him walk for a paltry 5th rounder in return. But yet, aside from the Patriots, ZERO other NFL franchises felt he was worth a 5th round pick. So, it's 31-1 with the Bills being on the side of the other 31 NFL teams that MG was unworthy of a 5th rounder. How does this at all imply that we laughably bumbled this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 A very good one on a team whose main strength is running the ball. It's a loss. His TDs are no gimmick. Have to agree JM...MG was not your typical backup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 We need a backup that can be a serviceable starter, TD Mike was not. Our offense succeeds when shady succeeds, having a back that can at least hold the fort when he is out is greatly needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Have to agree JM...MG was not your typical backup The guy is good and those who think he'll be replaced easily are fooling themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Saying multiple metrics is the easiest way to show that you don't understand football. He had 100 carries and 1 reception. Nice stat line but a gimmick one too. SM It's like saying that a pinch hitter with 100 AB who had the highest OPS would do the same thing getting starter ABs. 3rd or 4th down and 5+ yrds to go MG leads the league over last 2 seasons and not even close. Converted 14 of 17 such attempts. Led the league in yrds per carry, td %, 3rd conversion %, etc. Lot of rbs in the league, one guy led those categories. Explain it any way you want but it is the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 A very good one on a team whose main strength is running the ball. It's a loss. They need to get better at passing to win anything. They have a new coach. Perhaps he wasn't shot in the a$$ with all that running, or didn't think MG was the reason for the success running the ball. We don't know. He's a backup. Guys have career years , perhaps that was his. I feel confident that the Bills will be around .500 with or without MG on the team. Teams lose guys, they get other guys. The odds of this being a critical decision for the Bills success or lack thereof is minimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Cthulhu Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 It's funny because Whaley seems so cavalier with draft picks with certain moves, then does this with Gillislee. I don't know what it means, but it doesn't appear that he has a cohesive strategy (as opposed to a team like Green Bay, for example). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Mike G. Will have more all purpose yards from this day forward than Shady. That's the red hot take. Patriots have 6 RBs under contract for next year. So yeah. Not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 NE won the SB and is a better team now then they were then. The Bills are worse right now then at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 The guy is good and those who think he'll be replaced easily are fooling themselves. Those who think backup RBs win you anything in this league are fooling themselves. Why did MG get just a single offer sheet? From a team that doesn't need him nonetheless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 One thing people are missing is what the offense will look like under Dennison. Will it still be the run dominant one of the last couple years or will it be more balanced? If more balanced then that may have been involved in the decision making. One other thought occurred to me. Remember the kickoff that MG messed up and didn't cover? Our new HC is big on detail. Wonder if that entered into things; if he has a backup RB he doesn't trust on special teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 NE won the SB and is a better team now then they were then. The Bills are worse right now then at the end of the season. Correct on both counts. But keeping MG wouldn't change that calculus for either team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 NE won the SB and is a better team now then they were then. The Bills are worse right now then at the end of the season. You have absolutely no way of knowing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm0404 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 The guy is good and those who think he'll be replaced easily are fooling themselves. Two guys that were out of the league and unwanted by all other teams put up essentially identical numbers in the same role/system over the last two years. Perhaps we'll not be able to replace him, but we did literally do just that by signing him off the scrap heap in the first place. I wouldn't say acknowledging that is "fooling themselves". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 One thing people are missing is what the offense will look like under Dennison. Will it still be the run dominant one of the last couple years or will it be more balanced? If more balanced then that may have been involved in the decision making. One other thought occurred to me. Remember the kickoff that MG messed up and didn't cover? Our new HC is big on detail. Wonder if that entered into things; if he has a backup RB he doesn't trust on special teams? You don't get rid of a RB of his talent because of a very dumb mistake on ST. I doubt it had anything to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Your whole premise is that MG is WAY more valuable than a 5th round pick, and we were foolish to trade him for one. That our GM is a complete idiot for letting him walk for a paltry 5th rounder in return. But yet, aside from the Patriots, ZERO other NFL franchises felt he was worth a 5th round pick. So, it's 31-1 with the Bills being on the side of the other 31 NFL teams that MG was unworthy of a 5th rounder. How does this at all imply that we laughably bumbled this? Think a lot of people forgot this little keynote, teams like The Giants and Vikings who have needs at the running back position did not go after MG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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