YoloinOhio Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) message boards like this are a dying breed. the explosion of popular social networks allows ppl to decided who and what they consume. we are creating millions of little echo chambers where we decide on the content and who gets to participate on a whim frankly, i think its crippling us, in a way the one great thing about traditional message boards is that everyone contributes and the discussions stay up for a long time, indefinitely if the site is stable and well maintained. that provides a very valuable growth tool for the poster and everyone else to review how they articulate things at a point in time, and how they change their views over time our superficial transient popular social media communications generally dont have much of that if at all, and its a pretty big loss every team has at least one message board, like this one, that isn't "social media" but is independently run. Most teams don't have one anymore on the official team site. That was definitely a dinosaur. Honestly didn't ever visit it once, and forgot it existed except when it was occasionally referenced here. I assumed it was gone a long time ago. Edited April 5, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 What was their objective in removing the BBMB? to hinder and/or stop aiding a forum of constant over the top negative discussion which leads to a loss of financial support (ticket sales) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 What was their objective in removing the BBMB? to hinder and/or stop aiding a forum of constant over the top negative discussion which leads to a loss of financial support (ticket sales) Right. I can't believe a place for people to blast the organization, on the organization's dime, existed for as long as it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) What was their objective in removing the BBMB? to hinder and/or stop aiding a forum of constant over the top negative discussion which leads to a loss of financial support (ticket sales) were they hurting in ticket sales? Is that why every other team, including those who don't have a lot of negative discussion, have long since moved on from hosting a fan forum on their official site? I don't think that was the reason. If it was, they wouldn't have waited this long Berchtold was lazy. Not a coincidence that the week Boyko got there he got rid of it. Edited April 5, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 So fans should support a garbage product blindly otherwise find something else to do? I shouldn't watch a sport I love watching because I'm fed up with my favorite team shoveling garbage down our throats for two decades? It's called being a fan. Being ticked off about a perennial losing team is one of our rights given to us by 'Merica. There's a large section of us who don't encounter many Bills fans in their daily lives and this is an outlet to discuss all aspects of the team, including venting about moves we don't like. If people have a problem that some aren't running around saying "Gee whiz, if we try really really hard maybe we can beat the Patriots and win the division, maybe even the Super Bowl!!!", that's a you problem bub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) for the most part, the difference is that in this forum we say our thoughts & takes about the team either positive or negative WITHOUT attacking others who differ Edited April 5, 2017 by papazoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I was a daily BBMB reader (and frequent contributor) too. After it shut down, I checked out a few independent Bills message boards and found this one to be the best. It's really not much different than the BBMB - a lot of good posters with a few trolls chiming in now and then. It doesn't take long to figure out who's in each category. I don't know if their plan to get more people on their social media pages worked in general, but it didn't work on me. The comments on public Facebook pages seem to have a very low signal-to-noise ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 $$ Social media access to fans likely gives them the opportunity to purchase and pursue targeted marketing. They can buy the data (or parts of it) that social media collects about their fans, and use it to make money. Their message board didn't offer that kind of opportunity. It was an expense to maintain, and it was important to quantify the value it provided. Following the $$ is always a good move. But things like FB are a shotgun approach with anyone, anywhere following the team. It's like asking a thousand girls to sleep with you hoping one says yes. Assuming they owned the board, they had the data for every member. That's much more of a focused targeted list of potential customers, both new and upgrades. The money in this case I suspect was like you mentioned, the cost of running the board and maintaining it and maybe being in some way liable for what happened there. Much cheaper and easier to do it the way they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) I was a daily BBMB reader (and frequent contributor) too. After it shut down, I checked out a few independent Bills message boards and found this one to be the best. It's really not much different than the BBMB - a lot of good posters with a few trolls chiming in now and then. It doesn't take long to figure out who's in each category. I don't know if their plan to get more people on their social media pages worked in general, but it didn't work on me. The comments on public Facebook pages seem to have a very low signal-to-noise ratio. every professional sports team is trying to do this, but imo places like FB are frequented more by the casual fan vs one that spends time on a board like this. They might follow the Bills on there and chime in but usually it's vapid comments vs informed discussion. Another big difference is that on social media your identity is out there. Your comments are tied to your name. Edited April 5, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NeckBeard Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Somehow I think that Deadspin is going to have a field day with this very issue in the next edition of "Why Your Team Sucks". I can see it now: "what other team shuts down their message board, fires their chaplain, retains EJ Manuel for that long, has terrible drafts every single year, hired Rex Ryan as HC, and continues to retain DW as GM? The Buffalo Bills." That's basically the whole summary, and I don't actually believe I am being hyperbolic on any level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Happy they shut it down. This is a much better board!!! Social media discussion is much different. Here you will find the hardcore fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 They are following the corporate PR model now. No accountability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 they felt they needed to strip town and country of his power. it went right to his head. that dude was a bag of dicks. Yes he was! I did the math one time. Somewhere around 60% of my infractions were from him, and the overwhelming majority were ticky-tack bull **** (admittedly the rest were deserved.) Either way, !@#$ them. This is a much better place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 If that place was "moderated" at all, it was using the loosest possible definition of the term. If BBMB was an animal, it would've been a cat chasing a laser beam while tweaking on low-grade biker crank. Either the mods were overwhelmed, inept or they gave up after a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Yes he was! I did the math one time. Somewhere around 60% of my infractions were from him, and the overwhelming majority were ticky-tack bull **** (admittedly the rest were deserved.) Either way, !@#$ them. This is a much better place. this board is far better. posters know their football and there's a great sense of humor around here. i also enjoy that if someone is going out of their way to be an idiot, they allow a bit of ball busting to temper them back. on the bbmb, it would be infraction city. my t and c fun story...in a thread about bringing mike vick to the bills, i simply responded, "eeewwwww". our favorite mod gave me a non-expiring infraction for going off topic. that's who we were dealing with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Good riddance. This board is a million times better and we're given more freedom of speech. Glad it's gone. The mods over there were high on that pedestal, they were due for it to crumble. Absolute power corrupts absolutely after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 #OneBuffaloBillsMessageBoard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 They are following the corporate PR model now. No accountability. In their defense, would you voluntarily fund a website who's primary focus was to discuss how every decision you made was terrible and your organization stunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) As was mentioned. It is about dollars and control of content. Facebook is meant for for quick comments, not for discussions. It is also about the changing target markets. The boomers were more into serious discussions, longer attention spans. BBs like this have more appeal to an older demographic. We don't have that short attention span of the MTV generation and younger. Many of us like facts, knowledge and information. Younger generations grow up expecting everything to be hand fed in splashy, easy digestible 30 second video bytes. BBS users often want more detail than just quick opinions and comments, we want useful information, proof and depth. The Bills do not want informed fans, they want fans that accept quick excuses and just accept what the corporate interests want to feed them. They want the fans to vent when they are upset, forget about it and immediately move on to another different thought, just happy to have vented. For a team with the Bills lousy record of delivering a quality product, the Bills need fans with very short attention spans,lol. Edited April 5, 2017 by simpleman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KermitMcDermott Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 It was too much work banning every poster over nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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