Mets fans?

[Gugny]

2 hours ago, Captain Murica said:

Vargas needed that. His off speed stuff looked good tonight. 

 

1 hour ago, SmokinES3 said:

Vargas is still capable of being Vargas...Thank god...

 

1 minute ago, Bills4everNY said:

I'll second that!

 

Hopefully this is a turning point for him.  Mesoraco seems to call a nice game.  My only concern tonight was Mick using 6 pitchers, albeit other than Vargas, no one pitched more than 1.1 innings.  Nice to have a win streak going.  Gotta sweep these bums.

[Captain Murica]

15 hours ago, Misterbluesky said:

Are you loving the Jim Beam outdoor "booth" as much as I am? Reminds me of the days when Murphy and Kiner called the games at Shea...hearing the jets coming out of left/center field ,is a awesome sound.Beam me up for a few "high- balls".

Yup, it totally reminds me of that. I also remember they used to stop the game when Jets would fly over. 

 

I was at work and when I saw them make those "high-balls" I was thinking to myself, I could drink both of those right now. 

13 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

 

 

Hopefully this is a turning point for him.  Mesoraco seems to call a nice game.  My only concern tonight was Mick using 6 pitchers, albeit other than Vargas, no one pitched more than 1.1 innings.  Nice to have a win streak going.  Gotta sweep these bums.

 

I get that. I also have to remind myself that Vargas had basically no spring training, but getting a solid start like that out of your number 5 guy I'll take it 10 out of 10 times. We need Thor and DeGrom to be hitting 7 innings each outing like the elites do. 

 

I like Mesoraco already. He's got pop and calls a good game. Plus, he can play solid defense with throwing and blocking the balls in the dirt. 

[Misterbluesky]

Let's just hope Mesoraco's elbow is ok...we all know wheeler needs a little babysitting at times. 

[Misterbluesky]

15 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

 

 

Hopefully this is a turning point for him.  Mesoraco seems to call a nice game.  My only concern tonight was Mick using 6 pitchers, albeit other than Vargas, no one pitched more than 1.1 innings.  Nice to have a win streak going.  Gotta sweep these bums.

I can't jump on Mick's arm decisions right now..he let noah go deep and the pen hasn't given up a run in the last 13 innings.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

Edited May 22, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

[Captain Murica]

23 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

Wish this deal included time travel of some sorts. 

[Misterbluesky]

20 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

That's a slap in Wilmer's face.For sure,he will be bringing in some energy to the clubhouse....but I don't like the move.

Evans sent down to Vegas....yeah get older.

[Misterbluesky]

18 minutes ago, Captain Murica said:

 

Wish this deal included time travel of some sorts. 

You don't see him at 3rd until Frazier gets back?

[Captain Murica]

3 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

You don't see him at 3rd until Frazier gets back?

The braves just released  him. They have Flaherty over there and he isn't doing anything spectacular. It just seems odd they would release him when they have a need themselves. 

 

He currently is rocking .143 BA, I hope it works out but can't say I'm hopeful.   

 

[Misterbluesky]

Conforto is batting clean up against a leftie...Reyes at third.

30 minutes ago, Captain Murica said:

The braves just released  him. They have Flaherty over there and he isn't doing anything spectacular. It just seems odd they would release him when they have a need themselves. 

 

He currently is rocking .143 BA, I hope it works out but can't say I'm hopeful.   

 

Holy crap,he's starting in left. Thanks for the awesome catch last night,nims.

[Misterbluesky]

Bruce yanked...wow.

[Alaska Darin]

Nice job Mets.  That's an old Yankees' move - sign a guy who is quickly spiraling downward and hope he can be 5 years younger.

[SinceThe70s]

Some thoughts on Bautista:

 

- he's a player I've disliked from afar for awhile. I only know what I've seen and heard from highlights and headlines but he seems like a jerk

- he did nothing with the Braves

- Flores has shown consistently that he is not an every day player. He crushes lefties but is a liability in the field.

- Bautista's redeeming qualities are that he bats right and plays LF and 3B and he used to be a power hitter

 

Conclusion: I'm worried about the Cespedes injury and to a lesser extent Frazier's. This looks like a low risk attempt to catch lightning in a bottle...with a low probability of success.

 

 

 

[Misterbluesky]

31 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

Some thoughts on Bautista:

 

- he's a player I've disliked from afar for awhile. I only know what I've seen and heard from highlights and headlines but he seems like a jerk

- he did nothing with the Braves

- Flores has shown consistently that he is not an every day player. He crushes lefties but is a liability in the field.

- Bautista's redeeming qualities are that he bats right and plays LF and 3B and he used to be a power hitter

 

Conclusion: I'm worried about the Cespedes injury and to a lesser extent Frazier's. This looks like a low risk attempt to catch lightning in a bottle...with a low probability of success.

 

 

 

Rock solid post,70's! In addition,I will punch a hole in my tv room wall if I see Reyes start another game at 3rd or short...he's done. If you recall,Evans played some innings in ST on that side of the infield..instead of keeping him on the roster,he's dumped back down so they can keep Reyes safe....not a chance in heck he wouldn't clear waivers. ..meaning there is no risk.

[row_33]

Good luck with JoeyBats...

 

watched Harvey’s home debut with the Reds, got out a jam in the first and coasted to a 6-1 lead when he left.

 

[SinceThe70s]

46 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

Rock solid post,70's! In addition,I will punch a hole in my tv room wall if I see Reyes start another game at 3rd or short...he's done. If you recall,Evans played some innings in ST on that side of the infield..instead of keeping him on the roster,he's dumped back down so they can keep Reyes safe....not a chance in heck he wouldn't clear waivers. ..meaning there is no risk.

 

First off, thanks.

 

So I got back from the 6th grade concert tonight around 8 and saw a text from my friend complaining about Reyes and his .132 batting average. I shot him down asking how many at bats and making the point he's the 25th man and no more than an insurance policy for Rosario. 

 

Then I saw the game highlights and one of his two errors. He has never shown a feel for third base and they obviously have no trust in him in the outfield. And you're right about no risk clearing waivers. Plus they've started Guillorme over Reyes against righties. I owe my friend an apology.  

 

 

Edited May 23, 2018 by SinceThe70s

[Gugny]

2 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

Some thoughts on Bautista:

 

- he's a player I've disliked from afar for awhile. I only know what I've seen and heard from highlights and headlines but he seems like a jerk

- he did nothing with the Braves

- Flores has shown consistently that he is not an every day player. He crushes lefties but is a liability in the field.

- Bautista's redeeming qualities are that he bats right and plays LF and 3B and he used to be a power hitter

 

Conclusion: I'm worried about the Cespedes injury and to a lesser extent Frazier's. This looks like a low risk attempt to catch lightning in a bottle...with a low probability of success.

 

 

 

 

I agree with most of what you've written.  But I think Wilmer SHOULD be an everyday player.  I think his fielding is good enough and, if allowed to play every day and get into a groove, I think he can be a good hitter.

 

I don't know the details, but I'm assuming Bautista comes on the cheap.  Anything helps at this point.

 

The elephant in the room is that the Mets have two good starters and a lot of crap after them.  Sandy can keep bringing in has-beens to try to score more runs, but they'll never keep up with the runs that starters 3-5 are going to give up.

[Misterbluesky]

12 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

 

The elephant in the room is that the Mets have two good starters and a lot of crap after them.  Sandy can keep bringing in has-beens to try to score more runs, but they'll never keep up with the runs that starters 3-5 are going to give up.

If King Sandy decides to make a deal before the deadline,I pray to God he doesn't include Peter Alonso in a package.

[SinceThe70s]

54 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

If King Sandy decides to make a deal before the deadline,I pray to God he doesn't include Peter Alonso in a package.

 

I seriously doubt he'd do that.  I read recently that they plan on playing Dominic Smith in the outfield a few times a week. Speculation was to make room for Alonso at first. 

[Misterbluesky]

50 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

I seriously doubt he'd do that.  I read recently that they plan on playing Dominic Smith in the outfield a few times a week. Speculation was to make room for Alonso at first. 

Interesting..that might be the reason why Smith lost some weight?

[Captain Murica]

 

 

I'd say I'm happy for him but that would be a lie and I'm not very good at lying. 

 

 

1 hour ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

I seriously doubt he'd do that.  I read recently that they plan on playing Dominic Smith in the outfield a few times a week. Speculation was to make room for Alonso at first. 

 

42 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

Interesting..that might be the reason why Smith lost some weight?

 

 

Just to show you how good this kid is as a prospect. Conforto made the jump from AA to the Majors. I see Alonso doing the same. 

[Misterbluesky]

1 hour ago, Captain Murica said:

 

 

I'd say I'm happy for him but that would be a lie and I'm not very good at lying. 

 

 

 

 

 

Just to show you how good this kid is as a prospect. Conforto made the jump from AA to the Majors. I see Alonso doing the same. 

Exactly,kind sir. That's why I said I don't want to see him packaged for a #3/4.

[KD in CA]

Oh Nails....

 

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/23585880/former-mlb-player-lenny-dykstra-arrested-threatening-driver-possession-drugs

[Gugny]

15 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

Oh Nails....

 

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/23585880/former-mlb-player-lenny-dykstra-arrested-threatening-driver-possession-drugs

 

I follow him on Facebook.  He is an absolute mess.  I almost feel guilty by being entertained by it, because he is clearly in need of serious help.

 

He just re-tweeted/posted on FB an article about the arrest.

Edited May 23, 2018 by Gugny

[Misterbluesky]

I think it's high time to start blaming this line up of bats instead of the pitching staff. Talk about a skeleton crew!!!

[Captain Murica]

6 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

I think it's high time to start blaming this line up of bats instead of the pitching staff. Talk about a skeleton crew!!!

Yup, offense is terrible but when you give your closer a one run lead in the 9th he needs to shut the door. I'm not a fan of familia and currently on the brink of being physically Ill.

 

We just lost a series to the worse team in the entire MLB and scored 4 runs yet still had a chance to take 2 out of 3. 

[Gugny]

4 minutes ago, Captain Murica said:

Yup, offense is terrible but when you give your closer a one run lead in the 9th he needs to shut the door. I'm not a fan of familia and currently on the brink of being physically Ill.

 

We just lost a series to the worse team in the entire MLB and scored 4 runs yet still had a chance to take 2 out of 3. 

 

Yup.  He floated meatball after meatball.  Feel bad for Jake.  Disgusting loss.  Disgusting series.

 

 

[Misterbluesky]

18 minutes ago, Captain Murica said:

Yup, offense is terrible but when you give your closer a one run lead in the 9th he needs to shut the door. I'm not a fan of familia and currently on the brink of being physically Ill.

 

We just lost a series to the worse team in the entire MLB and scored 4 runs yet still had a chance to take 2 out of 3. 

Hang tough,there is no doubt we severely miss the threat that Frazier offers and of course Ces is sorely missed.I wake up every morning hoping for a positive update on the both of them...but it isn't happening. I refuse to say the ship is sinking just yet.....

3 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

I follow him on Facebook.  He is an absolute mess.  I almost feel guilty by being entertained by it, because he is clearly in need of serious help.

 

He just re-tweeted/posted on FB an article about the arrest.

I remember you said you were concerned during TC time...I really hate to hear that he is still going downhill.It has to be but check time now....rehab or end up dead.

Edited May 24, 2018 by Misterbluesky

[Captain Murica]

15 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

Hang tough,there is no doubt we severely miss the threat that Frazier offers and of course Ces is sorely missed.I wake up every morning hoping for a positive update on the both of them...but it isn't happening. I refuse to say the ship is sinking just yet.....

I remember you said you were concerned during TC time...I really hate to hear that he is still going downhill.It has to be but check time now....rehab or end up dead.

 Trying my best, It's definitely testing my mental fortitude. 

 

 

 

 

As for an up to date Injury report as of 5/22 

 

 

Edited May 24, 2018 by Captain Murica

[KD in CA]

I despise Familia and can not wait for the day he is no longer a Met.  

[Bills4everNY]

1 hour ago, KD in CA said:

I despise Familia and can not wait for the day he is no longer a Met.  

I wish the Mets had kept Reed and gotten rid of Familia.

[Gugny]

7 hours ago, KD in CA said:

I despise Familia and can not wait for the day he is no longer a Met.  

 

My son and I were just reminiscing about a Mets game we attended a few years back.  Mets/Dodgers at Citi.  Familia blew the lead in the 9th and I said, "let's go."  The place emptied out as soon as that bum blew the lead.  It was raining lightly and it wasn't worth getting wet for.    It was deGrom vs. Grienke (7/26/15).  Awesome pitchers duel and this ahole blows it.  BUT ... old ass Juan Uribe won it with a base hit in the bottom of the 10th ... which we missed.

[SinceThe70s]

8 hours ago, KD in CA said:

I despise Familia and can not wait for the day he is no longer a Met.  

 

Seems like he hasn't been the same since the World Series.

[Gugny]

1 hour ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Seems like he hasn't been the same since the World Series.

 

Since the World Series, he led the league in saves in 2016; missed a lot of last year and he's tied for 3rd most saves in the league, so far, this year.

 

He is, however, leading the league in blown saves so far this year.

 

I feel like we're being a little tough on him.  But last night was horrible.

 

[SinceThe70s]

2 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

Since the World Series, he led the league in saves in 2016; missed a lot of last year and he's tied for 3rd most saves in the league, so far, this year.

 

He is, however, leading the league in blown saves so far this year.

 

I feel like we're being a little tough on him.  But last night was horrible.

 

 

I wasn't suggesting we cut and run with Familia, just my impression that since the WS he hasn't seemed as good as he was and it's something I'm keeping an eye on.

 

I'm not a stats guy, but I took a look after you pointed out his 2016 saves. Here's his save percentage the past few years (saves vs. save opportunities):

 

2015: 43/48 (90%)

2016: 51/56 (91%)

2017: 6/7 (86%)

2018: 13/17 (77%)

 

Looking just at blown saves you're right about 2016 but he's below par this year. In fairness I'd throw out this year as being a good indicator since it's a small sample, but it is cause for concern

 

Looking at some other stats (ERA/Avg/WHIP) indicates that he hasn't been as good:

2015: 1.85/.207/1.00

2016: 2.55/.220/1.21

2017: 4.38/.231/1.46

2018: 2.35/.212/1.13

 

It wouldn't surprise me if there are stats that show something different, that's always a pitfall of relying solely on stats IMO, but maybe what's happening is he's getting the saves but their more stressful.

 

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

I wasn't suggesting we cut and run with Familia, just my impression that since the WS he hasn't seemed as good as he was and it's something I'm keeping an eye on.

 

I'm not a stats guy, but I took a look after you pointed out his 2016 saves. Here's his save percentage the past few years (saves vs. save opportunities):

 

2015: 43/48 (90%)

2016: 51/56 (91%)

2017: 6/7 (86%)

2018: 13/17 (77%)

 

Looking just at blown saves you're right about 2016 but he's below par this year. In fairness I'd throw out this year as being a good indicator since it's a small sample, but it is cause for concern

 

Looking at some other stats (ERA/Avg/WHIP) indicates that he hasn't been as good:

2015: 1.85/.207/1.00

2016: 2.55/.220/1.21

2017: 4.38/.231/1.46

2018: 2.35/.212/1.13

 

It wouldn't surprise me if there are stats that show something different, that's always a pitfall of relying solely on stats IMO, but maybe what's happening is he's getting the saves but their more stressful.

 

 

I appreciate you taking the time to dig up these stats; very helpful!

 

I'd call 2017 a wash with the limited save opportunities.  So we're really just left with the World Series season, the season after that and this (very young) season.

 

My biggest concern is that, in this very young season, he's already blown 4 saves.  He might have a lot; but he's also blown a lot.

[Captain Murica]

3 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

I appreciate you taking the time to dig up these stats; very helpful!

 

I'd call 2017 a wash with the limited save opportunities.  So we're really just left with the World Series season, the season after that and this (very young) season.

 

My biggest concern is that, in this very young season, he's already blown 4 saves.  He might have a lot; but he's also blown a lot.

 

 

 

That's a little alarming if you ask me. The season is still young yet he's almost blown more saves this year than he has done in full seasons prior. 

He was never meant to be the closer. He was the set up guy (which is his best spot in my opinion) and Mejia was the closer before getting popped for PEDs, and eventually being banned for life. So, in hindsight he has done a really good job. 

 

[Misterbluesky]

Very nice win!!! Please let Callaway stick with the same line up tomorrow night,we need some consistency.This makes up for last night's "tooth pull". 

[Gugny]

3 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

Very nice win!!! Please let Callaway stick with the same line up tomorrow night,we need some consistency.This makes up for last night's "tooth pull". 

 

Agreed.

 

I was a little take aback by how they kept saying that Wilmer gets tired playing every day.  I don't buy that.  I think he'd play 162 games/year if given the chance.

 

I wish Matz could pitch like this consistently.  Then we'd have something cooking!

[SinceThe70s]

3 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Agreed.

 

I was a little take aback by how they kept saying that Wilmer gets tired playing every day.  I don't buy that.  I think he'd play 162 games/year if given the chance.

 

I wish Matz could pitch like this consistently.  Then we'd have something cooking!

 

Matz got killed for his last outing but it really came down to the HR he gave up with the pitcher on deck (which was bad). Tonight he got out of that bases loaded jam (which was fortunate, ball made it to the warning track). I'm more concerned that he stays healthy and so far so good this year.

 

But what do we do with Nimmo? A year ago I had written him off as a career minor leaguer but I'm becoming a convert. Problem is we already have too many left handed bats in the outfield. No way I'm giving up on Conforto but Nimmo's been the better player this year IMO.  And this team needs Bruce to be Bruce. I get that A-Gon is an obvious target but the thought of Bruce at first frightens me.

 

Regardless, nice bounce back road win after a tough home loss the night before.  It's been a good seven days after a rough stretch.

 

Let's Go Mets!